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Title: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: ocraz on Tuesday 17 July 18 15:59 BST (UK)
Hi everyone and may I say how pleased I am to have found this site.
My father served in the Navy from August 1943 to February 1947. I have an old photocopy of his Service Records which is, to say the least, very illegible. However he served mainly on HMS Urania and his last ship (if I have read it correctly was HMS Victory)  On his records it states completed P.F.F. course and I wonder if anyone knows the meaning of these letters.  My dad had a good friend who served with him but I do not know his name. I am posting a photo in case anyone recognises him.  It would be great if anyone can help.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: king ranger on Tuesday 17 July 18 16:18 BST (UK)
Hi no expert on the Navy but you might find HMS Victory was not a ship but a training Base.
                                                    Colin.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: king ranger on Tuesday 17 July 18 16:29 BST (UK)
It appears there was also a ship HMS Victory in WW2,so he may very well have served on it.
                                                 Colin.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: Jebber on Tuesday 17 July 18 16:41 BST (UK)
I’m am no expert on Naval matters, but If it was his last ship i think it was most likely the shore establishment at Portsmouth, now HMS Nelson.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: Girl Guide on Tuesday 17 July 18 16:45 BST (UK)
Two possible PFF suggestions

PFF Planning Factors File

Pheonix fire fighting course - HMS Pheonix was the Royal Navy School of Firefighting 1946 to 1993.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: q98 on Tuesday 17 July 18 16:49 BST (UK)
Several photos of Urania crew here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/grahamthomas/sets/72157638173202524/

HMS VICTORY was Royal Navy Barracks, Portsmouth later renamed, I believe, HMS NELSON.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: leka on Tuesday 17 July 18 17:06 BST (UK)
Hi ocraz
The following website gives PFF as being Path Finder Force but how this would apply to the Royal Navy i don't know.
www.ww2f.com/threads/abbreviations-and-acronyms-of-ww2-and-service-records.37304/

leka
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: leka on Tuesday 17 July 18 17:15 BST (UK)
www.royalmarinesmuseum.co.uk/research-and-collections/genealogy
another site that might help

leka
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: ocraz on Tuesday 17 July 18 18:46 BST (UK)
www.royalmarinesmuseum.co.uk/research-and-collections/genealogy
another site that might help

leka

Thank you so much, I will look at that site as well.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: ocraz on Tuesday 17 July 18 18:49 BST (UK)
Hi ocraz
The following website gives PFF as being Path Finder Force but how this would apply to the Royal Navy i don't know.
www.ww2f.com/threads/abbreviations-and-acronyms-of-ww2-and-service-records.37304/

leka

Well how strange is that, dad was on destroyers mainly but thank you I will take a look at the website.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: ocraz on Tuesday 17 July 18 18:52 BST (UK)
Hi no expert on the Navy but you might find HMS Victory was not a ship but a training Base.
                                                    Colin.
Hi Colin, thank you so much. I have to say I am not up on the navy either. I know he was at HMS Collingwood for training and it took me months to find out that was a training base lol. I will search under training bases. Thank you again.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: ocraz on Tuesday 17 July 18 18:53 BST (UK)
It appears there was also a ship HMS Victory in WW2,so he may very well have served on it.
                                                 Colin.
Ok well thank you that is also good news. Think I need to research this really well.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: ocraz on Tuesday 17 July 18 19:00 BST (UK)
I’m am no expert on Naval matters, but If it was his last ship i think it was most likely the shore establishment at Portsmouth, now HMS Nelson.

Thank you, I think you may be correct. I will continue researching in the hopes that there may have been another as one of my good friends on here mentions.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: ocraz on Tuesday 17 July 18 19:02 BST (UK)
Several photos of Urania crew here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/grahamthomas/sets/72157638173202524/

HMS VICTORY was Royal Navy Barracks, Portsmouth later renamed, I believe, HMS NELSON.

Thank you all this information I am receiving is so helpful. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: ocraz on Tuesday 17 July 18 19:44 BST (UK)
Hi everyone.
I would like to thank you all for your comments and help. Having looked on another site, I see a comment saying the ship could be getting confused with HMS Victorious which was in Okinawa 1945 - Japan the same as my dads destroyer URANIA R05.  So still so confused, I am trying to upload a part of my dads Service Record for you all to comment on regarding what the wording for the ship is. It is very feint so could well be the Victorious.

What a wonderful site, I am overwhelmed with the replies I have received so far. Thank you.

 Hi I am having problems uploading the part of Service Record. It keeps saying we do not support this format. Can anyone help me. It is a jpeg so not sure why this is happening
Title: Re: Royal Navy Second World War HMS URANIA and VICTORY
Post by: cpercival on Tuesday 17 July 18 22:27 BST (UK)
As his last ship HMS Victory would be logical. All Portsmouth based ratings last posting would be HMS Victory (barracks) for release.  Victory was used in two instances in Portsmouth.  HMS Victory (ship) Nelson's famous flagship, a museum but still a commissioned warship in the dockyard, and HMS Victory (barracks) entrance in Queen Street up the road from the dockyard gates.  Victory barracks was eventually renamed HMS Nelson to avoid confusion but that was after my time in the Service.

C