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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Caernarvonshire => Topic started by: nestagj on Tuesday 24 July 18 13:57 BST (UK)
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Good afternoon fellow rootschatters !!
I found this gentleman's marriage on my very first visit to the archive over thirty years ago and I suspect that my addiction to family history stemmed from seeing the original marriage register signed by their marks by him and his bride.
He is my great, great grandfather.
The marriage is :
19 July 1856 ; Rhiw Parish Church ;
Bachelor Thomas Prichard (24) a Tailor of Suntur, Y Rhiw father Thomas Prichard, Labourer
and
Spinster Eleanor Owen (33) of Plas yn Rhiw father Griffith Owen, Labourer
Witnessed by Griffith Hughes and William Williams.
Found Thomas' baptism 6 November 1831 parents Thomas and Jane of Sintir
Found his sister, Catherine Thomas' baptism on the same page 5 August 1830. I think I have his parent's marriage in May 1830. Then the family disappear ! the next mention I have is the wedding in 1856 with residence Sintir.
Thomas and Eleanor / Ellen Prichard are in LLanystymdwy in 1861 he dies in 1886 and I have his grave, she dies in 1889 - no grave as yet but still looking ! The family is then easily traced through the census and so on to my father and me.
Its that missing 25 years that's bugging me ! I have been through the Rhiw census 1841 and 1851 manually and have found Sintir - have even walked to the house in my time but I can't find a trace of the family; whenever I find a possibility something isn't quite right.
I hope some fresh eyes can help !
Thank you very much
Nesta
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I wonder if this Thomas is worth looking into in 1851
Living at Ty Ycha, Rhiw, Pwllheli which I think is next door to Syntyr on the next page. Although Thomas's surname is listed as Morgan on the transcription it is shown as ditto on the image and he is listed as a tailor :-\
Richard Morgan 62 Shoe Maker & Sexton Rhiw, Caernarvonshire
Margered Morgan 60 Aberdaron, Caernarvonshire
Abraham Morgan Son 26 Shoe Maker Rhiw, Caernarvonshire
Margered Morgan Daughter 14 1837 At Home Rhiw, Caernarvonshire
Thomas Morgan Visitor Unmarried 19 Taylor Rhiw, Caernarvonshire
William Morgan Visitor Unmarried 17 Apprentice Rhiw, Caernarvonshire
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There is a Thomas Morgan Taylor, a Visitor at Ty Ycha Rhiw on the 1851 census. Any chance there is an error with the surname?
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Wow - thank you
Yes - that is very interesting - now to find a Thomas Morgan born Rhiw !
Have also found living in 1841 a Jane Jones and Thomas Jones at Pen yr Ogof which is next door - well along the path - to Syntur.
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Hi again
FindMyPast has a Thomas Morgan baptism 1826 son of Richard Morgan & Margaret, shoemaker living at Tyddyn y Graig, Rhiw which is in the same area as Syntur.
N
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Sadly it could be Richard and Margaret's son although he would be a little old but I can't see him in other census years :-\
Kay
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I know - it would have been perfect ....
Looks like someone made an error with his age - odd though cause the others are correct I think.
Back to the drawing board - that Thomas Jones living with Jane is pulling me in !
If I could just find Thomas Prichard in 1851 !
The whole family unit Thomas, Jane and the children Thomas and Catherine seem very elusive - I know we could have had deaths and or movements but I would have hoped to see parish burials if nothing else....am looking at FindMyPast and Ancestry.
Thanks very much......
N
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Have just been checking the census' again for Thomas and Eleanor Pritchard and we have some minor differences as to Eleanor's age ;D
Her age on marriage in 1856 was 33 (i'm pretty sure I have the right baptism in 1821)
He was 25
1861 Census - he is 29 she is 37
1871 Census - he is 40 she is 49
1881 Census - he is 50 she is 49
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I wouldn't completely discount Thomas Morgan with his occupation and Eleanor age might well be an error
Where do you think Thomas Pritchard married in 1830 and what was his wife's maiden name
Kay
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Hello
In the first post here it is again ! No she's lying !! older woman younger man !! ;D ;D
The marriage is :
19 July 1856 ; Rhiw Parish Church ;
Bachelor Thomas Prichard (24) a Tailor of Suntur, Y Rhiw father Thomas Prichard, Labourer
and
Spinster Eleanor Owen (33) of Plas yn Rhiw father Griffith Owen, Labourer
Witnessed by Griffith Hughes and William Williams.
Thanks
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Sorry - I was thinking of his parents 1830 marriage
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Hi
15th May 1830 ar Y Rhiw Parish Church
Thomas Richards with Jane Jones - this might be totally wrong but it was the only one that fit......
He was of Llanfaelrhys (next door parish) and she was of Rhiw
Thanks
Nesta
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Found that one and the image does look like Richards :-\
This is a really puzzling family!!!
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I know ! 😂😂.
Considering how the rest of my families have stayed put around this area .....
We all have to have one though don’t we !
Thanks for helping
N