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Title: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: percy porter on Thursday 09 August 18 03:26 BST (UK)
Rhoda Mary Westlake emigrated to Australia in 1927, married John Holt Lyon farmer in Pitt Street Methodist Church, Auckland in 1932. They farmed at Inglewood Taranaki where Rhoda died in 1975.

I have no idea when her husband died and am interested in finding out if they had  any children who may still be alive. Rhoda is the closest descendant we can find relating to the photographs that are referred to in the forum you will find here,


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=775363.36

Any help would be appreciatted


Alan
Warkworth Museum
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: spades on Thursday 09 August 18 04:30 BST (UK)
Hi Alan,

The probate of John Holt LYON, a retired farmer of Waitui, was filed in February 1956 at New Plymouth. His probate is held at Archives NZ, Wellington office. Would you like me to request it?

And there also is a 1898 marriage for a man of that name to Ann Jane MILLS.

Spades

Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: spades on Thursday 09 August 18 04:34 BST (UK)
NZ BDM shows that he died on 19 January 1956.
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: percy porter on Thursday 09 August 18 04:36 BST (UK)
If it reveals any offspring that could be helpful.
I have been given a name of a Sue Smith who's maiden name was Lyon but at the moment I have not been able to contact her.

As you know I am not familiar with tracking down NZ names as all mine are from the UK

TiA

alan
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: spades on Thursday 09 August 18 04:37 BST (UK)
There is a 1921 probate at Archives NZ, Auckland office, for a Ann Jane LYON of Wiri, Auckland.

Spades
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: spades on Thursday 09 August 18 04:37 BST (UK)
Hi Alan,

No worries, I'll look for the probate.

Spades
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 09 August 18 05:01 BST (UK)
This should save you a trip Spades... ;D

Here is the probate [1956] for John Holt LYON.........

[Oops, just about to add the link for the above.]

Here is the link:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9DF-TC9Z?i=310&cc=1865481

[A grandson is named in the will]

And Ann Jane LYON [1922]......

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSS9-DSPZ-N?i=97&cc=1865481


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 09 August 18 05:15 BST (UK)
And some family information from the probated will of Ann Jane LYON........

LYON, Charles Orrel
Last Address:   Waitui, Inglewood (Farmer)
Age at Death:   49 Years
Date of Death:   23 Jul 1948
Category:   Burial
Funeral Director:   Vospers Funeral Home, 257 Devon Street East, NEW PLYMOUTH 4310
Date of Burial:   26 Jul 1948
Cemetery:   INGLEWOOD
Location in Cemetery:   Memorial Area, Row E1 Plot 15N

LYON, William Harwood
Last Address:   Junction Road, Inglewood (Contractor)
Age at Death:   68 Years
Date of Death:   9 Jan 1970
Category:   Cremation
Funeral Director:   Vospers Funeral Home, 257 Devon Street East, NEW PLYMOUTH 4310
Date of Cremation:   12 Jan 1970
Ashes Disposal:   Garden Of Remembrance

Also cemetery details for:

LYON, John Holt
Last Address:   Waitui, Inglewood (Dairy Farmer)
Age at Death:   84 Years
Date of Death:   19 Jan 1956
Category:   Burial
Funeral Director:   Not Available
Date of Burial:   21 Jan 1956
Cemetery:   TE HENUI
Location in Cemetery:   Unknown Burial Location

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 09 August 18 05:20 BST (UK)
Death notice for Ann Jane LYON.........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19211102.2.2.4?end_date=31-12-1922&query=ann+jane+lyon&start_date=01-01-1921


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 09 August 18 05:28 BST (UK)
A little more....

1932/3268   Rhoda Mary   Westlake   John Holt   Lyon

1975/34329   Lyon   Rhoda Mary   10 February 1893

LYON, Rhoda Mary
Last Address:   Oakleigh, Waitui, Inglewood (Household Duties)
Age at Death:   82 Years
Date of Death:   9 May 1975
Category:   Cremation
Funeral Director:   Vospers Funeral Home, 257 Devon Street East, NEW PLYMOUTH 4310
Date of Cremation:   12 May 1975
Ashes Disposal:   Garden Of Remembrance


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 09 August 18 05:41 BST (UK)
Rhoda Mary Westlake emigrated to Australia in 1927, married John Holt Lyon farmer in Pitt Street Methodist Church, Auckland in 1932. They farmed at Inglewood Taranaki where Rhoda died in 1975.

I have no idea when her husband died and am interested in finding out if they had  any children who may still be alive.


Hi Alan

The Will of John Holt LYON > dated May 1955 > seems to confirm that he had only four children  > all of whom are named in that document and, according to birth registration records,  born of his union with Ann Jane (nee MILLS ).

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 09 August 18 05:42 BST (UK)
A daughter mentioned in the will of John Holt LYON........

1985/35241   Bidwell   Isabella Flora   13 October 1900

Burial record for Isabella Flora Bidwell
Date of birth
Unknown
Date of death
3 February 1985
Age at death
84 years
Gender
Not recorded
Region
South
Cemetery name
Manukau Memorial Gardens
Remains type
Ash
Date of cremation
5 February 1985
Funeral director
Unknown

If you can obtain a 'New Zealand Herald' death notice you may be able to glean more family information.


Minniehaha.


Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 09 August 18 05:52 BST (UK)
This doesn't help but I will include it anyway; the probated will of Charles Orrel LYON........

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-898G-V91B?i=48&cc=1865481

Added: But the probated will of his wife may be helpful. Two daughters are named. The second surname mentioned is still to be found in the Inglewood area.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DL-LQCY?i=291&cc=1865481

1956/22916   Lyon   Myrtle Jane   54Y


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 09 August 18 06:17 BST (UK)
And here is another avenue through which enquiries could be made........

https://www.bayanne.info/Shetland/getperson.php?personID=I301581&tree=ID1

https://www.bayanne.info/Shetland/familygroup.php?familyID=F158502&tree=ID1


LYON, Colin James Holt
Last Address:   Bristol Road, Inglewood
Age at Death:   60 Years
Date of Death:   31 Aug 1986
Category:   Ashes Burial
Funeral Director:   Vospers Funeral Home, 257 Devon Street East, NEW PLYMOUTH 4310
Date of Burial:   20 Oct 1986
Cemetery:   INGLEWOOD
Location in Cemetery:   Cremation Row G1 Plot 2

Funeral directors:

https://vospers.co.nz/contact/


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 09 August 18 06:29 BST (UK)
Hi Alan

... 3 or 4 researchers at ancestry.com with family trees for John Holt LYON :

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: percy porter on Thursday 09 August 18 06:31 BST (UK)
Wooh

INFORMATION OVERLOAD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thanks guys, looks like I am going to busy at the museum tommorrow


Alan
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 09 August 18 08:12 BST (UK)
Hello Alan,

I have sent a personal message to you with what I hope is a current telephone number for a family member from reply #12......


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: percy porter on Thursday 09 August 18 09:06 BST (UK)
Hello Alan,

I have sent a personal message to you with what I hope is a current telephone number for a family member from reply #12......


Minniehaha.

It is current and OI have spoken to her,. she is 92 and has confirmed the information we already have regarding the Lyon/Westlake connection.

Thanks to all concerned myself and a couple of contacts in  Tavistock have been pursuing this search since last December and it is so exciting that we seem to have cracked it.

Another major victory for Rootschat and its members

Must go and have a liedown now!

Alan
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: spades on Thursday 09 August 18 09:27 BST (UK)
Congratulations, Alan! ;D 8)

Great teamwork. RootsChat rocks! 8)

Spades
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 09 August 18 09:32 BST (UK)
Well done!   Alan takes a break from posting for a while and gets a result on the first day back! :D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: percy porter on Thursday 09 August 18 09:37 BST (UK)
Not quite right, have been posting on the Devon forum mentioned earlier, but you are correct in a way it has taken just four hours from go to wow thanks to the wonderful team here on Rootschat.

This will wind up in the local paper and will post the link when it gets published. It will be a while away yet though, the lady I have been talking to is getting a grandson to call me so I can point him at the pictures on our FB page and then she will be able to see some of them.

Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 09 August 18 09:43 BST (UK)
Searching is made so much easier when there is an unusual name in the mix, as is the case in the Lyon family. A very satisfactory outcome....... :) :) :)

Thanks for letting us know Alan.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 09 August 18 09:49 BST (UK)
Not quite right, have been posting on the Devon forum mentioned earlier

I should have said the NZ Forum ;D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: Janette on Thursday 09 August 18 20:54 BST (UK)
Good to see to back on the NZ board Alan.it has been a while  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: percy porter on Wednesday 15 August 18 09:33 BST (UK)
Update...........
Have found two descendants of the Lyon family and unfortunately it appears as if they have no direct connection to the Westlake family as Rhoda Lyon (nee Westlake) did not have any children so the connection ends with her death.


Some of the photos that we have can now be identified as of the Lyon family and I am trying to track them down, possibly originally from Wiri as that line had Power of Attorney for Rhoda. If anyone can help there it would be appreciated, I have a wedding photo of Bert and Kay Lyon married July 1948 and another one marked "with love from Edith and Walter" which we think may well be a Lyon but have no definite evidence to confirm that. Merely a hunch.

I am now going to pursue the Tavistock connection and see if I can locate and male descendants of Sampson Treliving Westlake.

Alan

 
Title: Re: Rhoda Mary (nee Westlake) and John Holt Lyon
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 16 August 18 08:39 BST (UK)
Newspaper death notice for Rhoda Mary sent to your e-mail address.....


Minniehaha.