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Title: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: DCarli on Saturday 06 October 18 17:14 BST (UK)
I'm trying to locate the Tylers in GT Baddow Essex 1861 Census.
I cannot find any of the family I'm  Particularly looking for the  following people:
Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868 - Shoemaker (possibly married to Maria or Ann) (should be on a 1841, 1851 and 1861
James Tyler 1821 - 1891 - Blacksmith (can only find him on 1851)
(married To Susannah I have her on 1841 - 1851 - 1871- 1891 but not with James other than 1851)
I cannot find any of James and Susanna's Children on 1861 census.

I found this on uk census online but do not want to pay another subscription = Found 1 Result.
Name: Daniel Tyler
Age: 64
Born In: 1797
Profession: Shoe Maker
Subscribe to see: Address, Parish, Area, Birth Place, Relation, along with the rest of the household

Essex 1861 Census
Found 1 Result.

Anyone help?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: olleym on Saturday 06 October 18 17:22 BST (UK)
1841 he is with
Maria 50
George 18
Alfred May 2

In Gt Baddow

Mark
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: olleym on Saturday 06 October 18 17:25 BST (UK)
The1851 census has a Daniel Taylor born 1797, shoemaker with wife Ann Taylor

Mark
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 06 October 18 17:52 BST (UK)
I found this on uk census online but do not want to pay another subscription = Found 1 Result.
Name: Daniel Tyler
Age: 64
Born In: 1797
Profession: Shoe Maker
Subscribe to see: Address, Parish, Area, Birth Place, Relation, along with the rest of the household

Essex 1861 Census
Found 1 Result.

Daniel Lyles on Family Search
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M748-L6K

Piece 1082 folio 99 page 25
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 06 October 18 17:54 BST (UK)
Daniel SYLER on ancestry in 1861
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 06 October 18 18:10 BST (UK)
Baptism at Margaretting, 19 May 1861
Alfred
parents James + Susan Tyler
abode Margaretting
father a Blacksmith

BT (image) here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLF-NFF?i=701&cat=514400
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: DCarli on Saturday 06 October 18 18:17 BST (UK)
I did see the 1841 & 1851 you mention but i was put of because there are two different names for the wife Maria and Anne - Obviously Taylor has been written instead of Tyler - But the wives are what  throws me.
I have 3 births to Daniel ^ Maria
Eliza 1818
James 1821 ( 3x grandfather)
George 1822
So Ann Possibly 2nd wife?
who dies before 1861 as he a widow?
But i have maria dying 1873 (not confirmed peron tho as i cannot find a marriage in essex for Daniel & Maria.
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 06 October 18 19:02 BST (UK)
I did see the 1841 & 1851 you mention
But couldn't find the 1861 that I mentioned!
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: DCarli on Saturday 06 October 18 19:03 BST (UK)
Thank you for that still can't find James though.
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 06 October 18 19:32 BST (UK)
Maria Tyler
Burial  17 Feb 1850 Great Baddow

Can't find a death registration to check age though
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: olleym on Saturday 06 October 18 19:35 BST (UK)
The Maria Tyler buried 1850was 64 years old, which would make her too old

Mark
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 06 October 18 19:39 BST (UK)
Don't forget 1841 ages were rounded down, so she could have been almost 55 in 1841, so 64 in Feb 1850 isn't impossible
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 06 October 18 20:01 BST (UK)
1871 has Susanah Tyler and the children in Great Baddow.
The Great Baddow rate book of 31 March 1871 has Susan Tyler, no James. In one of those six cottages owned by William Polley.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS29-S5B4?i=1071&cat=588286

She might be in the Chelmsford Union Workhouse in 1881.
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: nannyj on Saturday 06 October 18 21:32 BST (UK)
1841 he is with
Maria 50
George 18
Alfred May 2

In Gt Baddow

Mark

Alfred May is Daniel and Maria’s grandson. Eliza married Daniel May in great baddow 1837.
Her sister Emma b.1825 (as recorded on baptism record, although her marriage record says she was 19 when she married, but was actually 17) married in 1842 (to John coward) witnesses were Louisa b.1819 and George Tyler b.1822.
Title: Re: Daniel Tyler 1797 - 1868
Post by: DCarli on Sunday 07 October 18 09:24 BST (UK)
James Tyler is the elusive one, he seems to be nowhere!  ???