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Title: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: andrewalston on Saturday 13 October 18 17:11 BST (UK)
I'm looking forward to the showing of Peter Jackson's new release.

His team have taken cine film taken in the Great War, restored and colourised it. They've even had lip-readers working out what was being said, and synched that into the result.

The sounds of weapons being used was done by having the New Zealand Army fire real weapons.

It should be worth seeing what big budget restoration can produce.

There are snippets to be seen towards the end of this week's edition of BBC's Click programme, available on iPlayer until October 2019.
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Viktoria on Saturday 13 October 18 19:00 BST (UK)
Thankyou for letting us know.
Something similar was done a while back ,well the jerky movements were
changed to normal walking speed.
But no sound of course.
 
Viktoria.
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Trishanne on Saturday 13 October 18 19:25 BST (UK)
Thank you, looks interesting, I will look out for it.
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 13 October 18 19:34 BST (UK)
Me too  :D
Carol
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: IgorStrav on Saturday 13 October 18 20:18 BST (UK)
You may need to be quick if you'd like to see it at the cinema

It's being shown at 6pm this Tuesday nationwide, and two cinemas in Oxford showing it were both fully booked - I've finally found myself a seat at the third and furthest away of our local cinemas.
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: jaybelnz on Saturday 13 October 18 22:37 BST (UK)
https://screenrant.com/peter-jackson-wwi-documentary-shall-not-grow-old-trailer/

Also more on YouTube

https://youtu.be/EHYRfukHToc

I'll look forward to seeing it too, hopefully it will be shown on telly here, but I'm a bit doubtful about that!  I'm picking it maybe shown here in NZ at the Peter Jackson Theatre in Wellington.  A few years ago he gave the PJ treatment to THE DAM BUSTERS - that was fantastic! 
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: tomkin on Saturday 13 October 18 22:57 BST (UK)

 It's brilliant :D
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Guy Etchells on Sunday 14 October 18 08:18 BST (UK)
The film “They shall not grow old” is going to be shown in full on the BBC
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Viktoria on Sunday 14 October 18 13:15 BST (UK)
 Many thanks  Guy,Viktoria.
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Trishanne on Sunday 14 October 18 13:46 BST (UK)
Thank you Guy, do you know when?
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Trishanne on Sunday 14 October 18 13:59 BST (UK)
Thank you Jaybelnz, that has whetted my appetite.
I would love to see the treatment he gave to the Dambusters. I worked in a hotel in Lincoln when it was being filmed there and met all the stars. Do you know if it is available anywhere?
Pat
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: josey on Sunday 14 October 18 14:13 BST (UK)
I read that it will be shown on BBC on Armistice Day - Nov 11.
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 14 October 18 14:26 BST (UK)
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I would love to see the treatment he gave to the Dambusters. I worked in a hotel in Lincoln when it was being filmed there and met all the stars. Do you know if it is available anywhere?

I think the Dambusters project has been shelved
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Jomot on Monday 15 October 18 21:24 BST (UK)
Looking forward to seeing this tomorrow.  I didn't realise it was 3D, but they've flogged me 4 sets of glasses on top of the ticket price, so it better be!

As an aside, £53.80 for four tickets  :o
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: IgorStrav on Tuesday 16 October 18 14:02 BST (UK)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/markkermode/entries/8758b9fa-57f0-47e6-9917-7d45d9cfca7d

Interview with Mark Kermode and film maker Peter Jackson about They Shall Not Grow Old.

The care and trouble and techniques look amazing.  I am looking forward to seeing it tonight, and taking a hankie.

It is true that you can keep people alive by remembering them.  As we all do in our researches.
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Viktoria on Tuesday 16 October 18 15:54 BST (UK)
I truly agree with you,ordinary people who led humdrum lives very often,
nothing remarkable left by them but happy families ,and remembered acts of bravery and it was darned hard work for the most part.
They are worthy of remembrance and the black sheep in our families-?
well they may have caused unhappiness and discord but for the most part
most of our rellies were the salt of the earth to use an oft used phrase.

I always feel to remember them is to give them some measure of immortality.
The lost and neglected graves don’t really matter when those buried there are recorded names in their proper context,their family tree.
More strength to our elbows I say .
Viktoria.
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Tuesday 16 October 18 16:45 BST (UK)
Can't wait to see the film!! :D

One in cinema in my area was sold out but managed to get very last tickets at the second one tried.  :D  Phew!!

I have been told there is going to be a question and answer session at the end - not sure if I will be sticking around for that as will be relying on public transport.

Hope you all get lucky in obtaining tickets  in your areas.  It really is selling out like hot cakes!

It is not 3D at cinema I am going to.  Tickets £16.50 each - Jomot you got a bargain! :o
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Viktoria on Tuesday 16 October 18 19:12 BST (UK)
Just seen a small preview of the film,on tonight’s news.
I can’t believe it is original footage,such fresh young faces but Sir Peter
Jackson was interviewed and  explained about his Grandfather.
Gosh I am upset now.
It seems more connected to us in this form,those grainy monochrome pictures had the distance of time ,we knew they were real ,but this will be so much more easy for people to relate to, especially the younger ones.
Not children ,it will be too much for them I am sure.


Whilst it will be hard to watch what a priviledge it will be for those who can.
Will it be on general release ?
Viktoria.

Just looked back through posts and see it is to be shown on Armistice Day,
I will be in Belgium so it will have to be recorded.
V



Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: IgorStrav on Tuesday 16 October 18 20:57 BST (UK)
Have just returned from one of our local showings of the film.

It is very powerful, and indeed upsetting.

Peter Jackson, in his live q&a session afterwards, said that he wanted everyone to look up their own history as they would most likely have had family who had served and possibly died in the war.

He was celebrating his grandfather - who died (of the effects of his WWI service) before he was born - and felt he had got close to him in the work he had done on the film.

Recommended.  It will stay with me for a long time.

Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: california dreamin on Tuesday 16 October 18 23:30 BST (UK)
I also saw it tonight - quite expensive and not in 3D   8) 

However, it was amazing and a wonderful tribute to those who served.

CD
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: jaybelnz on Tuesday 16 October 18 23:46 BST (UK)
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I would love to see the treatment he gave to the Dambusters. I worked in a hotel in Lincoln when it was being filmed there and met all the stars. Do you know if it is available anywhere?

I think the Dambusters project has been shelved

Nope, as I said in my previous post, I saw the Peter Jackson version of The Dambusters at his theatre in Wellington, NZ.  It was a fundraising event for the Missing Wingman Trust! We were served with nibbles and drinks and entertainment by the RNZAF Brass Band before moving on into the theatre for the movie!   The whole thing was totally mind blowing! A huge screen, loud music, as we were sitting in the front row it was pretty spectacular! Just about blown out of the theatre!!!  With my Dad having served in the RNZAF, he would have loved it!  Sadly, he had passed away before it was produced, I remember him having a record of the Dambuster's March, it was his favourite!

Despite searching the net, sadly, I haven't been able to find the film online anywhere!! Probably not old enough to be put onto YouTube yet!  I might phone
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: tomkin on Wednesday 17 October 18 01:00 BST (UK)
" I haven't been able to find the film online anywhere!!"

                see reply #12

                 I heard that it will be broadcast on T.V. middle of November.
 
                          So said Dan Snow
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Jomot on Wednesday 17 October 18 01:39 BST (UK)
Have just returned from one of our local showings of the film.

It is very powerful, and indeed upsetting.

I agree. I was quite unprepared for how much some parts affected me, especially the shell bombardments. My Grandad's brother was killed when a shell hit his dug-out, so that part really hit home.  It was extremely well done though, and I'm pleased I saw it on the full cinema screen.
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: majm on Wednesday 17 October 18 01:50 BST (UK)
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12143782

https://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/5599797/peter-jacksons-wwi-film-to-premiere-in-uk/

JM
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Wednesday 17 October 18 09:28 BST (UK)
The film started in black and white but when it shifted suddenly into full colour, I was startled, even though of course, I knew this was going to happen.  It suddenly seemed that the Chaplinesque cinematography had gone and I felt that I was suddenly seeing things from a present tense. 

It does make for emotional and at times upsetting viewing.  I feel haunted by one scene in particular, which I did find distressing to see.   I started to write about this on here but have deleted this part of my post as this might be upsetting to the sensitive. 

However, there are also scenes of camaraderie and humour amongst the soldiers.

This is an extraordinary film and I am glad I got the opportunity to go and see it.  It is something I will never forget.  I can only echo what Peter Jackson said - please find out if you have ancestors who served/died in the war - research them and see to it that this information is passed on so that they may not be forgotten.

Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Viktoria on Wednesday 17 October 18 10:04 BST (UK)
The few short excerpts I have seen do give a greater sense of now,the old grainy film footage ,even after the speed had been sorted out so the movements were not jerky had distance,but were still hard watching.
This will seem so much more real,especially to younger people used to a technicolour world.
What a shame it is not more available,just hope everyone who would like to see it manages to do that on November 11th.
There is a great deal going on on Belgium at least,not sure about France.
The service from St Marten’s Cathedral will be relayed on to a huge screen in
the Grote Markt,the big square where the Cloth Hall is and which leads to the Menin Gate with its 35,000+ names of the missing from the four year long fighting in that area,and along past Hell Fire Corner and the road to Passchendaele and the huge Tyne Cot cemetery.
I don’t know how near we will be or what we will see but to be there will be
well ....wonderful,heartbreaking,thankful,words are not enough.
I heard first hand from my Dad , just an ordinary man,well teenager when he was called up,having been in The Derby Scheme he was almost 19.
Just after the Somme and he was captured just before Passchendaele which probably saved his life as The Kings Liverpool saw heavy action in the Hoogh
area ,a cemetery lies just behind the new Hoogh Chateau.
Not entirely sure of exact dates but he did serve albeit for only about 9 months.I have the form informing his family of him being missing ,perhaps just separated from his unit or captured but not necessarily killed.
To look at that unassuming quiet man you could not believe he could charge with fixed bayonet,but he would have done.
He has my lasting admiration,we will go back toHill 60 where his ashes were
scattered at his request.I have not been for a long time.
I am looking forward to the next day when hopefully we will get to some of the cemeteries when not so crowded.
Viktoria.

Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: jaybelnz on Wednesday 17 October 18 21:17 BST (UK)
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12143782

https://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/5599797/peter-jacksons-wwi-film-to-premiere-in-uk/

JM

Thank you for the link Majm, the last sentence in the article says it all!  "No known screening in NZ at present"!  Guess I just have to be patient!  Oh well, I've still got a good few years yet!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cine Film Restoration - "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Post by: Trishanne on Wednesday 17 October 18 22:21 BST (UK)
Two of my uncles, my father's brothers, served in WW! and both came home. They lived in one of the few thankful villages, Arkholme, 59 men from that village went to war and thankfully they all returned.