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Title: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: nmcasey on Tuesday 30 October 18 21:52 GMT (UK)
William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird  Liverpool 1885
I am after information on "Sarah Bird" by the census Sarah was born about 1866.
I am after her parents name she may have died 1907 West Derby.

Regards
Nc
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 30 October 18 21:58 GMT (UK)
The marriage should give her fathers name as a starting point.

What birth place does she have on census?
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:02 GMT (UK)
One of the children from the 1891 census has the middle name Barclay so that might be something to look at.

By the way Sarah's birth is 1856 on the 1891 census - have you got her in 1901?
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:16 GMT (UK)
I think this is them on the 1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9KK-1HY


On one birth in Liverpool:

BIRD, SARAH mmn PARRY     
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 116

Jamjar




Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:18 GMT (UK)
The 1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:73J1-D6Z

Her age is 25.

Jamjar
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:22 GMT (UK)
A marriage:

Marriages Dec 1865 Liverpool 8b   207
Bird John and Margaret Parry

Jamjar
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:37 GMT (UK)
A marriage:

Marriages Dec 1865 Liverpool 8b   207
Bird John and Margaret Parry

Jamjar

For info.

Dec 1865 
Bird    John        Liverpool    8b   207    
Kanolty    James        Liverpool    8b   207
Morris    Jane        Liverpool    8b   207    
Parry    Margaret        Liverpool    8b   207

30th Oct 1865 St Nicholas Church Liverpool

Margaret Parry married James Kanolty her father Samuel

John Bird married Jane Morris his father Thomas
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: nmcasey on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:45 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for the information

Just had a look in ancestry a tree had her father as William not much info on the tree. So it my be wrong.

Regards
Nc
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:46 GMT (UK)

On one birth in Liverpool:

BIRD, SARAH mmn PARRY     
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 116


Could this be her baptism

Sarah Bird Birth 24 Oct 1866
Baptism 12 Nov 1866 Liverpool, St Peter
Father:   William Bird labourer
Mother:   Ellen abode Primrose Hill

Haven’t looked for a marriage William to Ellen
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:52 GMT (UK)
This looks to be the marriage her surname written as PERRY Ellen made her mark (x)

William Bird f/a labourer, Primrose Hill father Vincent, confectioner
Ellen PERRY f/a Primrose Hill father Richard, farmer
Marriage Date:   3 Sep 1865
Marriage Place:   Liverpool, St Nicholas, Lancashire
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: nmcasey on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:58 GMT (UK)
Thank you ladyhawk
I will look into it

Regards
Nc
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:59 GMT (UK)
William Bird to Ellen Perry Sep 1865 Liverpool 8b 233

1871 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBFZ-3SR

Jamjar
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 30 October 18 22:59 GMT (UK)
William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird  Liverpool 1885

Sarah Bird age 19 Oriel Street Father William porter
Marriage Date:   4 Jan 1885
Marriage Place:   Liverpool, St Nicholas, Lancashire
Spouse:   William Johnston Monat age 23 , mariner Oriel Street father Magnus, mariner
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 30 October 18 23:16 GMT (UK)
Esther Bird Birth 24 Sep 1863
Baptism 5 Oct 1863 Liverpool, St Peter
Father:   William Bird occ labourer Mother: Ellen abode Primrose Hill

BIRD, ESTHER   mmn   PARRY     
1863  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 124
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 30 October 18 23:27 GMT (UK)
Are the boys theirs also?

BIRD, WILLIAM mmn PARRY 
GRO Reference: 1862  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 122

BIRD, GEORGE  HENRY mmn PERRY     
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 152

Jamjar
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 30 October 18 23:36 GMT (UK)
Not found George but think this could be William mother is Margaret

William Bird born 14 Dec 1861
Baptism Date:   6 Jan 1862
Baptism Place:   Liverpool, St Peter
Father:   William Bird Mother:   Margaret

Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 01 November 18 07:08 GMT (UK)
Baptism: 12 Nov 1866 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Sarah Bird - [Child] of William Bird & Ellen
    Born: 24 Oct 1866
    Abode: Primrose Hill
    Occupation: Labourer
    Baptised by: W. R. Duncan Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1867, Page 309, Entry 2471
    Source: LDS Film 1656564
Primrose Hill was not a bad area for a Labourer - unless they lived with parents ?

I grew up with a family of Mouat here in Liverpool - and I can walk to their house about 200 metres away from where I live now - to my knowledge D*** Mouat still lives there - just checked - his name is not down , so he might have passed away - looks like his daughter is still there though ...all had bright blonde hair when I was a kid  :)
PLENTY of Mouat still here in Liverpool
Title: Re: William Johnston Mouat Married Sarah Bird Liverpool 1885
Post by: nmcasey on Thursday 01 November 18 21:05 GMT (UK)
garstonite
                    I am  looking into Mouat family for a friend They all came from the Shetland Island
I notice a William Mouat married a Sarah Bird.

By chance I also have Bird's in my tree living around Liverpool so I have been trying to find the connection.

Regards
Nc