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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Monmouthshire => Wales => Monmouthshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Joanne Davies-Ainslie on Monday 10 December 18 20:09 GMT (UK)
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My grandfather on my father's side was Alfred Enoch Thomas Davies born Jun 25, 1907 (Newport, Monmouthshire), his parents were Evan Thomas Davies born October 1885 (born Merthyr Tydfil) and Annie Maria Powell born October 1886 (not sure where she was born in Wales). They had 5 children, I only know three names as Annie took two of the children and left Evan with 3 boys (Alfred, Ronald - born January 1911, and Thomas - born Sept 1919) we think the two missing are in between Ronald & Thomas, as she left baby Thomas with his father. Any help finding them would be so appreciated.
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Possible
DAVIES, OLWEN MURIEL POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1908 M Quarter in NEWPORT, MON Volume 11A Page 319
Added, but strange, she is not with them 1911 and also no indication she had died on the 1911
See reply 7
DAVIES, ALCWYN TOM POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in NEWPORT (MON.) Volume 11A Page 512
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1911 census from FamilySearch showing Annie's place of birth as Newbridge
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7PX-ZJR
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Births Mar 1919
Davies David _ Powell Newport M. 11a 505
Mar 1920
Davies Glenys M Powell Newport M 11a 777
Both from Freebmd.org.uk
And dec 1920
Davies James H Powell Newport M 11a 642
There must be two Davies Powell couples having babies in Newport.
I don’t see a Thomas birth for 1919 in Newport reg
Only
Births Dec 1919
Davies John R P Powell Pontypridd 11a 1178
Davies Thomas E Powell Builth 11b 113
Davies Thomas E Powell Builth 11b 114
Davies Thomas I Powell Bedwellty 11a 235
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If your Thomas is that Builth one then there are
DAVIES, JOHN CADWGAN AUBREY POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1917 D Quarter in BUILTH Volume 11B Page 106
DAVIES, POWELL JAMES POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1916 J Quarter in BUILTH Volume 11B Page 111
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But surely not because
DAVIES, ELIZABETH SARAH CEINWEN POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1913 D Quarter in BUILTH Volume 11B Page 120
DAVIES, MARY OLGA ELVINA POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in BUILTH Volume 11B Page 112
DAVIES, RUBY ANNIE POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1915 J Quarter in BUILTH Volume 11B Page 112
DAVIES, VIOLET ANN FREDA POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1914 M Quarter in BUILTH Volume 11B Page 103
I’ve completely confused myself now! Going for a coffee. Hopefully someone with more common sense than Me comes on :)
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Sorry, forgot to welcome you to Rootschat!
1891 census for family of Annie
Twyn College, Penmaen RG12/4382 folio 9 pg 12
Enoch Powell head mar 38 coal miner b. Kingston, Herefordshire
Elizabeth wife 43 b. Herefordshire
James G Richards stepson 18 coal miner b. Herefordshire
Alfred E Powell son 14 coal miner b. Pentwyn Mawr
George son 13 b. Pentwyn Mawr
William son 7 b. Pentwyn Mawr
Mary Elizabeth dau 7 b. Twyn College
Annie Maria dau 5 b. Twyn College
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Ok, olwen belongs to this family
Pontywain Farm Cross-Keys Mon, Risca, Monmouthshire, Wales In 1911. Parents John William and Sarah. Other child
DAVIES, GILBERT DAN POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 291
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Davies Thomas I Powell Bedwellty 11a 235
there are an awful lot of Davies/Powell Bedwelty births so am thinking this Thomas is unlikely to be yours.
Do you have your Thomas' birth certificate. Are you confident of the September 1919 birth date?
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DAVIES, ALCWYN TOM POWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in NEWPORT (MON.) Volume 11A Page 512
is present in 1939 as a single man.
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Wow....I am overwhelmed with all this info! Thank you so much! I do not have Thomas's birth certificate, so not sure on the date. Thomas was their last child.
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I don’t feel it’s been much help at all!
The only thing I can think is for you to start buying certificates and hope you guess right the first time so you don’t waste money.
Either that, or wait until the 1921 census is released.
If you bought Annie”s birth PDF you would have her exact birth date and might be able to find her on the 1939 register. If you were lucky might still have children with her. But of course she may have a new surname.
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I do feel you have all given me some names to look up, I have to be careful what birth certificates I order as for me (being in Canada) they cost me almost $20 each.
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Yes, a shame the PDFs aren’t available for post 1917 births.
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Looking at Annie’s census.
I wonder if it will turn out you are related to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Powell
Although it’s probably another one of those common welsh names!
Added. Took a a quick look,seems unlikely, or very remote
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That would be very cool if I was related!
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Hello,
I am a ‘cousin’ trying to help Joanne to solve some mysteries on her tree.
Having failed to pin down Annie Maria, we have moved on to her father Enoch Powell born 1853.
We are doing fairly well, but have failed to locate a birth record for him.
Can anyone help please?
1911 he is at Pentwyn Farm, Newbridge age 59 widower, born Herefordshire, Abbeydore??
1901 he is at Pentwyn Isaf, Penmain, age 48, born Herefordshire, Elizabeth age 54 born Herefordshire.
RG13/4967/51 (54)/p5
1891 he is at Twyn College age 38 born Herefordshire, Kingston, Elizabeth age 43 born Herefordshire
RG12/4382/9/p11
1881, at Penmain age 28 born Kingston, Elizabeth age 33 born Clodoch, Herefordshire
RG11/5273/41/p42
1871 we have failed to find him
1861, at Kingstone Village, Enoch is with his parents William age 56 born Hay, Breconshire, a shepherd and Mary age 51 born Walterston, Herefordshire.
RG9/1822/7/p7
Thanks and Merry Christmas to all.
Rob
PS I wasn't sure whether to start new post or link it to the original thread.
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This looks like his birth record - but it's not showing on the GRO site as they've transcribed it as Cnoch!
Mother's maiden name is Davis (or possibly Davies, going by potential birth records for siblings)
Enoch Powell
Q3 1853
Hereford Vol 6a, p403
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GRO Birth Registration
Annie Maria Powell, Dec Qtr 1886, Newport, 11a 218 - mother's maiden name Rickards
FindMyPast Marriage (Civil)
Enoch Powell, Dec Qtr1873, Hereford, 6A 1088 - on same page Elizabeth Rickards
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We can cross Alcwyn Tom Davies off the list, I ordered his birth certificate and the parents were not Evan Thomas Davies & Annie Maria Powell.
I have ordered a birth certificate for Evan T Davies born in 1923, fingers crossed this is one of the lost siblings.
My cousin found Evan T Davies snr on the 1939 registrar so we are hoping this Evan T is jr.
Joanne