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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: HarbourDog on Friday 28 December 18 13:24 GMT (UK)
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Hello all.
My maternal g-grandparents are buried in Ford Cemetery; from the reading I've done at http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~liverpoolindexes/genealogy/ford.html apparently 2/3 of the graves never had markers. I know that my g-grandfather, Charles Graham (d. 17 May, 1901) is buried in Section B, Grave 3135; his wife Agnes (d. 18 Mar. 1903) is buried at Ford as well, but I don't know where.
Does anyone familiar with the graveyard, and that section, know if it has markers?
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Agnes Graham aged 43 was buried at Ford on 18th March 1903 plot X38. That means she was buried on the day she died if your date of death above is correct?
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Agnes Graham aged 43 was buried at Ford on 18th March 1903 plot X38. That means she was buried on the day she died if your date of death above is correct?
Thank you for that. Looking back at my files, I have her as dying on the 13th...interesting that she would not have been buried with or next to her husband...I wonder why? And if either have headstones?
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http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/genealogy/bur/fordcem.htm
According to this, B is private and X is public:
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/genealogy/PDFs/Ford_Cemetery_Section_Usage.pdf
This says that none of the graves in B and X have headstones or markers:
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2287848/ford-cemetery
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Most interesting, thanks for the links.
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It might benefit from further digging, perhaps to see who else or how many in each plot? I think Ancestry might have the records?
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Ancestry have managed to leave some entries in the Ford records out of their indexes, so it is sometimes not possible to find a record which does actually exist.
Look in the ''Lancashire Lookup Offers' section, at the top of the Lancashire page . There are members who have CDs of the Ford cemetery records and will check a particular burial entry for you, if you can give the full name and date. They provide a valuable service and have helped me.
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:)
Looking at one particular thread, I think Harbour Dog has already requested a lookup. :)
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I'm a bit confused now. If you can find the Ford burial record you want on Ancestry, there are usually two entries. One records the date of burial and the grave number, often with a number of other names following recorded as buried in the same grave, in the case of a public grave. I have always assumed this was the grave diggers' own record. Sometimes it has notes about a private grave and a burial planned for a particular day, mentioning flowers. The second record seems more 'official' and usually has the address where the deceased was living, in addition to the grave number.
There is no way of searching by grave number on Ancestry. I think there may be a privacy issue tied up with this as I gather the Ford records included the name and address of the person who held the grave deeds in the case of a private grave. As there may have been much later burials in a grave first purchased by a family in 1900 say, with the grave deeds being passed on to the next generation, names and addresses dating from a much later period may appear in them.
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If you search the site for Ford and Yew Tree Cemetery Look ups, you will be able to send the details of the grave information you have. You will hopefully get a reply in a day or two of who else is buried in the same grave.
Good luck.
JeanC
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Oh dear ! We're going round in a circle, aren't we ! That was what I said ! :)
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Oops, silly me! Sorry.
JeanC
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No, Jean, you are quite right in what you are saying. The reason I was suggesting the lookup service is that only people who have the CDs can list all burials in the same grave. I had not made that clear in my original post, which is why I think Ruskie pointed out that the OP already had the grave info from a lookup.
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Thank you for your reply, clearer now.
For anyone that is able to get to Central Library William Brown Street Liverpool, they have the same information on fiche that is on the CDs that people do the look ups for.
Best wishes.
JeanC
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I've visited Ford Cemetery a number of times the public sections mentioned here are large grassed areas with no markers. Public graves do not have grave markers. At one time public burials were the most popular type of burial. They were the norm, there was nothing tragic about them, it did not necessarily reflect the family's financial situation.
Blue
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The section B mentioned is actually BZ now, it's BZ in the fiche for Liverpool RC burial registers and on maps. A private section B was created nearby in the 1920s so this might explain the change.
Blue