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Title: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: JEB01 on Tuesday 01 January 19 13:56 GMT (UK)
Good morning (and Happy New Year).
I should be grateful if a member could help to clarify what happened to the parents of my late father in law, Gordon Burbidge, who was born in the third quarter of 1924 in Leicester.
His father was William Burbidge, born in the village of Edith Weston, Rutland, in 1893. I think he was illegitimate - his mother was Charlotte Burbidge, also from Edith Weston. She later married and moved to Cambridge, and it looks as though William was brought up by his maternal grandparents.
Gordon's mother was Jane Williams, who although of Welsh heritage, was born in Scotland (probably Glasgow) in 1891. William and Jane married in Doncaster, Yorkshire in 1918.
I believe Gordon had at least one sibling, a brother. He never spoke much about his family, and possibly didn't know much about them.
I understood from Gordon that he (and presumably his brother also) grew up in a Barnardo's home.
Gordon joined the Royal Navy as a boy entrant, and served in the Navy for many years, retiring as a Chief Petty Officer.
So my question is what happened to his parents, William and Jane? I assume they both died whilst Gordon and his brother were young children, but I can't find any evidence of this.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 01 January 19 14:05 GMT (UK)
His birth registration gives mothers maiden surname as Williams (First qtr 1924)

Births Mar qtr 1924   
Burbidge    Gordon   mmn Williams   
Leicester    7a   373

There are two other birth registrations for possible siblings of Gordon in Leicester reg district
Male -June qtr 1919
Female -December qtr 1920
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 01 January 19 14:29 GMT (UK)

His father was William Burbidge, born in the village of Edith Weston, Rutland, in 1893. I think he was illegitimate - his mother was Charlotte Burbidge, also from Edith Weston. She later married and moved to Cambridge, and it looks as though William was brought up by his maternal grandparents.


Possibly William's birth registration
BURBIDGE, WILLIAM       (No mothers maiden surname listed)-     
GRO Reference: 1893  June Quarter in OAKHAM  Volume 07A  Page 352

Gordons brothers death
Norman Thomas Burbidge
Birth   21/04/1919
Death 03/1984 Leicestershire Central
Probate index gives address as 3 Willow Park Drive, Wigston - he died 6 March 1984

ADDED
Also possibly his sisters death
Deaths Dec 1925   
Burbidge    Joan E   age  5   
Billesdon reg district    7a   45
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: JEB01 on Tuesday 01 January 19 20:57 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your messages Rosie - yes I’m sure this is the right family.
Interesting about both the brother and the sister.
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: willsy on Tuesday 01 January 19 21:32 GMT (UK)
Have found the burial for Joan at Gilroes which gives an address

 Plot F   502   
ALDWINKLE   Beatrice   11m   56 Silver Street   Leicester   11-Apr   1906
BURBIDGE   Joan Eleanor   5   22 Diamond Street / NEI   Leicester   24-Dec   1925

Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: willsy on Tuesday 01 January 19 21:34 GMT (UK)
NEI is North Evington Infirmary
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 01 January 19 21:49 GMT (UK)
Have you made inquiries here?

https://www.barnardos.org.uk/former-barnardos-children

Sue
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: JEB01 on Tuesday 01 January 19 21:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you Willsy - I think that information is an important pointer.
North Evington Poor Law Infirmary suggests that Gordon’s mother suffered tough times just after he was born.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: JEB01 on Tuesday 01 January 19 21:55 GMT (UK)
Excellent link Sue - and one I was u aware of. Thank you
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: willsy on Tuesday 01 January 19 22:10 GMT (UK)
There's some school records at the Leics Records Office for Norman

LEICESTER SCHOOL EXEMPTION REGISTERS INDEX 1892-1935

Burbidge   Norman Thomas   Ref No. 30D73/10-2
Born 21   Apr   1919   
Left School 4   Sep   1933

The disc info says ...up until December 1941 parent’s names are included in the registers
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: JEB01 on Wednesday 02 January 19 09:03 GMT (UK)
Elaine, thanks for the PM indicating that Gordon’s parents were living in Doncaster in 1939!
I’m going to need to review all the info- but thanks again to all who responded to my look up request.
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: DCB on Wednesday 02 January 19 11:50 GMT (UK)
Possibly something you know already, but the image for William's marriage to Jane is on FindMyPast. Possibly on leave from the army, he was a private in Notts and Derby Regiment at Welbeck Camp. He gave his grandfather's name, Alfred, as that of his father.
Jane, age 26 of Cheshire Road (as in 1939), gave her father as John Williams and the witnesses were David Humphrey Williams and Florence Williams.

Three children registered to a Burbidge/Williams in Doncaster not long after the marriage but presumably a different family - Winifred 1920, Mildred 1923 and Thomas 1926. I think the two girls married in Don Valley District.

David
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: JEB01 on Wednesday 02 January 19 12:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks David - more interesting information. Almost inevitable that William gave his grandfather's name as that of his father, as I'm pretty sure he was an illegitimate birth in 1893, and brought up by his maternal grandparents as one of their own children. His mother, Alice (for some reason i said Charlotte in my original message) married a Frederick Ingle in 1902, and moved to Cambridgeshire. with him, and had four Ingle children in fairly quick succession, but William stayed with his grandparents.
It may be that Alice's husband was never told that William was his wife's child, but who knows?
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: HappyHammer on Monday 28 January 19 20:35 GMT (UK)
Hi.

I have just seen your post and am in a similar situation. I am looking for information in relation to a Norman Thomas Burbidge. I have been told he was in the Merchant Navy and has links to Leicester. Could you be looking for the information I have?????

What can you tell me about Gordon? I believe Gordon may be Normans brother..........
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: seaweed on Tuesday 29 January 19 10:20 GMT (UK)
Hi.

I have just seen your post and am in a similar situation. I am looking for information in relation to a Norman Thomas Burbidge. I have been told he was in the Merchant Navy and has links to Leicester. Could you be looking for the information I have?????

What can you tell me about Gordon? I believe Gordon may be Normans brother..........

Could you give us some idea of thr timeframe you are looking at?
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: HappyHammer on Tuesday 29 January 19 10:30 GMT (UK)
Hi. I believe he was in Leicester around 1954-56.
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: seaweed on Tuesday 29 January 19 10:39 GMT (UK)
I cannot find any evidence online that your man served in the Merchant Navy between 1941 and 1972. That said, lots of these records have been lost or destroyed. Have you  anything else to go on. The name of a ship?
Title: Re: Burbidge - Leiceter
Post by: HappyHammer on Tuesday 29 January 19 10:43 GMT (UK)
Sorry, no, I only found out about him yesterday.

I only know his name, and that he was in the merchant navy.

Never mind........