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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Westmeath => Topic started by: Bambi1st on Wednesday 23 January 19 16:43 GMT (UK)
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My grandmother Ellen Rose Keane was Simmons, I am trying to find out when she married and anything else about her or my Grandfathers Mathew noel Keane family ,The lived in Mullingar and also Delvin and had 5 sons Tom/thomas Simmons ,John Keane ,Michael Keane ,Noel Keane and James Keane.
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Any dates for anyone?
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Anyone on 1911 Census? http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nah/
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c reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Keane of Mullingar http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nai/
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1931 ?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1931/09030/5267662.pdf
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looks like
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Kilskeer/Johnstown/720268/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Fore_East/Cummerstown/880587/
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Ellen born 1904
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01807/1708074.pdf
Patrick Simons and Bridget Sheridan 1894
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10563/5848260.pdf
Cain/Kane/Keane
John Cain and Julia McGovern 1889 number 52
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10751/5920643.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Fore_East/Cummerstown/1777788/
Mathew Kane 1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02071/1790933.pdf
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April 1897 Michael McGovern age 78 still married died at Cumberstown
informant John Keane son in law
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05863/4661881.pdf
May 1903 Catherine McGovern age 66 widow died at Cumberstown
informant Julia Kane daughter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05661/4593814.pdf
Julia Keane died 1904 age 34 informant daughter Mary Keane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05610/4577421.pdf
Mathew's father John Keane appears to have got married again just after the 1911 census to an Elizabeth Melia
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09950/5617518.pdf
possibly this lady
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Clonlost/Fennor/883854/
John Kane widower died 1929 at Cumberstown age 68 informant son Patrick
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1929/04932/4339617.pdf
preceded by his second wife Elizabeth in 1915 informant stepson Mathew Keane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05265/4460883.pdf
Mathew's sister Mary/Mollie born 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02345/1876899.pdf
married Maurice P Lyons an American in 1911 ,in Haverhill,Massachusetts
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4FD-SLN
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Cumberstown is more commonly known as Cummerstown for Census etc.
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I cant thank you enough for all the information you have given ,its so wonderful to be able to know names and dates etc ,thank you once again.
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Think i have John Keane's Parents Patrick Keane/Kane/Kain/Cain and Ellen Early
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nc3/
i noticed on one or two of John Keane's children's birth's the informant was Ellen Keane of Glanidan?
e g John's daughter born 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02407/1897623.pdf
which leads to two deaths registered on the same day 10th March 1898
Patrick Kane age 63 husband of Ellen of Glenidan
John Kane age 10/months/Hrs ? son of a Lbr and Julia Kane of Cumberstown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05838/4653489.pdf
John born 1897
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02126/1808096.pdf
they were described as Pauper's on the birth of their daughter Catherine 1865
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03551/2307365.pdf
Mary Anne born 1872 as Cain number 91
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03221/2180955.pdf
was living in Dorset St ,Dublin in Jan 1901 when she married Mathew Downes in St Joseph's ,Berkley Rd
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10300/5749159.pdf
1901 with her mother Ellen
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Inns_Quay/Dorset_Row/1324060/
1911 my goodness they have'nt aged a bit
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Dorset_Lane/30125/
cant see an obvious death for Ellen
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Wow I knew we were a big family but your great information has proven what I though my granddad was one of 11 children 2 who died as babies and its actually proved the person who thought our great grandparents were the same is incorrect ,so more searching now on my Irish grandmothers side ,thank you so much for filling in the gaps . :)
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Thought i had the Simons family sorted but ran into a bit of confusion after the 1901 and 1911 censi
Patrick said he was the son of John Simons from Robinstown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10563/5848260.pdf
in 1901
Patrick say's he is 35
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Kilskeer/Johnstown/1614119/
possible birth 1866 in Robinstown to John Simons and Anne Mooney
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03530/2299551.pdf
John Simons died 1899 age 81 informant son Richard
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05806/4643455.pdf
Anne died 1909 with daughter Ellen as informant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05453/4526028.pdf
but 1901 census she say's Margaret Farrelly single is her sister ?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Kilskeer/Robinstown/1614191/
Margaret Farrelly died 1907 with Richard Simons nephew as informant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05532/4560727.pdf
This appears to be Ellen her daughter in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_East/Castlewood_Avenue/1291588/
married James Meehan in 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10036/5650662.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Rathmore/Muchwood/729657/
think the young lad should be Eugene
Son Richard ? 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Crossakeel/Ardglassan/727646/
what's not helping the fact's is i cant see any obvious births for Richard or Ellen
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nc4/
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Strange as my nan Ellen Simons was a spinster when she married married my granddad Mathew Keane ,it seems to contradict itself ,I know she had a son Tom/Thomas Somins before she married my granddad but apparently she was never married before ,Ellen's father was Patrick Simons and her mother Bridgit Maiden name Sheridan ,Ellen was born 29th august 1904 in Johnstown, 30th september 1931 she married Mathew Keane and had 4 x more boys John,Michael, Noel and James.
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I was told she was 1 of 11 x children.
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Well that seems right according 1911 census with 9 surviving
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Kilskeer/Johnstown/720268/
Margaret the twin of Rose died 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05462/4528638.pdf
Rose married Philip Rowe 1930
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1930/09040/5271098.pdf
address a bit different but this might be Kate to John Farrelly 1938
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1938/08885/5213475.pdf
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possible death for Bridget the mother in 1945 age 73 still married registered in Trim but address of Kilskyre
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1945/04615/4224368.pdf
Patrick 1950 widower from Johnstown age 83 informant dtr Bridget
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04532/4194385.pdf
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/meath/photos/tombstones/kilskyre-rc/target166.html
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/meath/photos/tombstones/kilskyre-rc/target160.html
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I am so suprised and so happy at the picture of Rose's grave stone ,I remember my nan telling me about her how they said she was locked in her room for many years as a youngster they said she was mad whatever that meant in them days but to know she married and had children of her own fills me with joy, I feel I am now fully understanding the family ,thank you.
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The Sheridans looks good
Patrick Sheridan and Mary Cahill 1871
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11354/8168245.pdf
Bridget 1872 Galboystown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03246/2189688.pdf
Catherine 1883 Galboystown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02711/1998160.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Killallon/Galboystown/1619131/
dont know what relationship of Andrew is
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Killallon/Galboystown/727836/
though on Patricks death cert 1919 he says he is his son
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05136/4414857.pdf
Mary 1928
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1928/04956/4348460.pdf
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Strange how names pop Up like Andrews and have not been heard before but it does say son.
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dathai....This kind man has helped me so much in completing the questions and ancestor's on my Irish family tree ,I cant tell you how kind he has been what a wonderful help some members are here X
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dathai is a gem right enough.
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I was having trouble finding the McGovern's so i asked fellow RootsChatter Sinann for some help, i had found one birth yesterday to Michael Govern and Catherine Burns 1865
2nd one down Anne
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03561/2311487.pdf
and i could not find anything else but Sinann has found Julia McGovern's birth for you as Julia McGauran 1870 last one on page
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03321/2216986.pdf
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Sinann ,Thank you for your help too :)