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Title: Missing Billington baptisms
Post by: Tom Langley on Tuesday 12 February 19 21:27 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I have hit a bit of a brick wall with my ancestor Charles Billington. He was born 1805/6 in Stoke on Trent. I cant find his baptism, but do know his mother was called Mary as she gave consent to his marriage to Hannah Forrester 1826 Stoke.
I have found two others i believe to be his siblings Anne born 1812 Stoke and James 1815 Stoke.
Anne married Ralph Stevenson and their son Levi married Charles's daughter Hannah (cousins).
James married Ann Pope and a Charles Billington was present for this.

I cant find baptisms for Anne or James either, and all show as being born in Stoke on the census'. Could this be non-conformists? I dont know what I am missing really.

Hope some one may be able to shed some light!

Tom
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: Tom Langley on Wednesday 13 February 19 14:03 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 13 February 19 14:39 GMT (UK)
You could be right about them being non-conformists.  I don't think that they are on-line, and the registers (assuming they have been deposited) are mainly at Stoke on Trent City Archives, with some at Stafford Records Office as well.

Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: josey on Wednesday 13 February 19 14:47 GMT (UK)
Can you tell us the resources you have accessed with negative results? Family search & which pay sites? It may be as BB says, the parish records do not survive.
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 13 February 19 14:58 GMT (UK)
Record Office holdings:
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: Tom Langley on Wednesday 13 February 19 15:11 GMT (UK)
Hi, I have used family search and find my past to look for the baptisms.
All events post baptism are on there I.e. marriages, deaths, children’s families etc.

Tom
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: josey on Wednesday 13 February 19 18:13 GMT (UK)
Are all the post baptism events you have found in the same church? Can you tell us which one?
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: Tom Langley on Wednesday 13 February 19 18:29 GMT (UK)
The families baptisms for the next generation were at Bucknall church.
The stoke marriages were at St. Peter’s ad vincular.


Tom
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: josey on Wednesday 13 February 19 18:41 GMT (UK)
Familysearch shows these records
England, Staffordshire, Bucknall - Church records ( 5 )
Bishop's transcripts for Bucknall, 1762-1855
Author:   Church of England. Chapelry of Bucknall (Staffordshire)
Bucknall cum Bagnall parish register
Author:   Church of England. Chapelry of Bucknall (Staffordshire); Adams, Percy W. L. (Percy Walter Lewis), b. 1875
Bucknall-cum-Bagnall parish register
Author:   Adams, Percy W. L. (Percy Walter Lewis), b. 1875; Church of England. Parish Church of Bucknall (Staffordshire)
Parish registers for Bagnall, 1802-1914
Author:   Church of England. Parish Church of Bagnall (Staffordshire)
Parish registers for Bucknall, 1758-1900
Author:   Church of England. Parish Church of Bucknall (Staffordshire)
   England, Staffordshire, Bucknall - Church records - Indexes ( 2 )
Index of the parish registers of Bucknall-cum-Bagnall and Bushbury parishes, Stafford Co., England
Author:   Anderson, Emily
Parish register print-out, Bucknall cum Bagnell, Staffordshire, England (1762-1855)
Author:   Church of England. Parish Church of Bucknall (Staffordshire)

but not where they are. I don't see Bucknall in BB's list of Record Office holdings.
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 13 February 19 21:04 GMT (UK)
Possibly because Bucknall doesn't come under Stoke on Trent!
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: Tom Langley on Wednesday 13 February 19 21:17 GMT (UK)
The census says they were born in Stoke-On-Trent, so I assumed the Bucknall connection came a bit later on.
It looks like the records dont quite go early enough to cover the years I would need.
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: ChrissieL on Thursday 14 February 19 08:24 GMT (UK)
On the Freereg website there are entries for two of their children

Elijah baptised 22 Nov 1826 Hanley, Methodist New Connexion Circuit
Person abode: Bucknall
Fathers occupation: Miner

Sarah baptised 11 May 1838. Hanley, Methodist New Connexion Circuit
Person abode: Bucknall
Fathers Occupation: Miner

Chris
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: Tom Langley on Thursday 14 February 19 08:27 GMT (UK)
Yes that's the family! So they were methodists!

Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: ChrissieL on Thursday 14 February 19 08:43 GMT (UK)
The Hanley Chapel in the Methodist New Circuit is known as Bethesda Chapel, a beautiful building, presently undergoing restoration. You can Google it and get some more information and pictures.
This chapel was built in 1819 so too late for Charles if he was baptised as a baby.

Chris
Title: Re: Missing baptisms
Post by: Tom Langley on Thursday 14 February 19 10:46 GMT (UK)
Looks like I’ll have to visit the records office for this one maybe.