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Title: Changeling? - Census
Post by: littlefacey on Wednesday 20 March 19 21:26 GMT (UK)
Hello!

So in the far right column on the 1871 i have the word 'Changeling' which according to Google means Fairy!!?

Do you think they meant to say challenging? or was this little boy really a fairy!?  :D
Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 20 March 19 21:28 GMT (UK)
How odd.  Can you give us a name or the census reference?
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Post by: littlefacey on Wednesday 20 March 19 21:32 GMT (UK)
Of course!


First Name William
Last Name   Stockwell
Birth Year   1823
Age   48
Birth Place   England
Birth Town   Leeds
Birth County Yorkshire
Gender Male
Relationship To Head of Household Head
Occupation   
Archive Reference RG10
Folio   82
Page   13
Piece Number   4563
Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 March 19 21:39 GMT (UK)
In 1881 he is classified as ‘Imbecile’.
Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 20 March 19 21:43 GMT (UK)
1891 - Imbecile from childhood.
1901 - Feeble Minded.

JJ
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Post by: Rena on Wednesday 20 March 19 21:43 GMT (UK)
** a child believed to have been exchanged by fairies for the parents' true child 
** an idiot

archaic : imbecile
Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 20 March 19 22:26 GMT (UK)
From the OED
Changeling An extremely stupid or foolish person; an idiot, an imbecile. Now historic.
Probably with reference to the idea that children with undesirable physical or mental characteristics were changelings in sense A. 1a.
A 1a  A child secretly substituted for another in infancy; a child supposedly left by fairies in exchange for one stolen. Often used to refer to a child who is considered undesirable, or who does not resemble his or her family.


Stan
Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: Finley 1 on Wednesday 20 March 19 23:22 GMT (UK)
How sad - 
xin

Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 20 March 19 23:26 GMT (UK)
I have a letter written by my mother to her mother in 1963 in which she says she thinks my brother must be a changeling because his behaviour was so different to mine. (Polishes her halo  :))
So not too archaic a term.
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Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 20 March 19 23:26 GMT (UK)
That's the first time I have seen that. It is sad but the name is preferable to imbecile.
Carol
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Post by: Rena on Thursday 21 March 19 03:01 GMT (UK)
I've been wracking my brain trying to recall why I knew what a changeling was.

It's just dawned on me that my first knowledge was at school.   

There was a Changeling in Shakespeare's  "A Midsummer Night's Dream":
Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: majm on Thursday 21 March 19 03:35 GMT (UK)
In rural New South Wales the term was used up until very recently.  I was born 1947,  and my best friend from infants school has many siblings.  Her youngest brother has Downs.  Their mum always attributed this to her age ... she used the expression ... 'change of life' . In  her 1997 will she referred to him as 'my beloved changeling' ... after he was born she had  refused to let the medicos commit him and he was raised within the family, on their farm.  I wonder if changeling indicates Downs or is it broader ...

JM
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Post by: sparrett on Thursday 21 March 19 04:14 GMT (UK)
Hannah Kent has written an amazing book, "The Good People" set in 1820's Ireland, and based upon a true story.

Such children were treated cruelly and subjected to all sorts of "spells" and "cures' and community rituals to appease the fairies who made the substitution.

A grim but gripping narrative.
Sue
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Post by: majm on Thursday 21 March 19 07:06 GMT (UK)
Libraries are fantastic ... they even still have real  books available.   :D

JM
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Post by: Viktoria on Thursday 21 March 19 08:22 GMT (UK)
Re a child being called a changeling ,jokingly ,when they were not like most members of the family,
I can remember ordinary children who differed physically or in behaviour especially if a bit naughty,being described as being found in the back street after the dustbin lorry had done its rounds!
Alternatively the rag bone man had not collected them.
My sister was found in s rose,I in a cabbage!
Life was hard and mothers harder! ;D ;D ;D
Viktoria.
Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: Viktoria on Thursday 21 March 19 13:39 GMT (UK)
Re a child being called a changeling ,jokingly ,when they were not like most members of the family,
I can remember ordinary children who differed physically or in behaviour especially if a bit naughty,being described as being found in the back street after the dustbin lorry had done its rounds!
Alternatively the rag bone man had not collected them.
My sister was found in s rose,I in a cabbage!
Life was hard and mothers harder! ;D ;D ;D
Viktoria.
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Post by: Sinann on Thursday 21 March 19 15:42 GMT (UK)
I never knew the term was used for real people I've only ever read it in old Irish myths.  One that comes to mind the changeling turns into a very old woman when exposed to sun light. My grand mother used to talk about protection infants from the fairies at Halloween in case they were taken and a changeling left in their place.
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Post by: Finley 1 on Thursday 21 March 19 17:12 GMT (UK)
just ordered that book  :)  2.75 on ebay

xin
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Post by: Viktoria on Thursday 21 March 19 17:59 GMT (UK)
I wonder if the use of changeling was defensive,given the superstition which in days gone by attached to anyone different in any way from the perceived norm.The parents said their real normal baby had been substituted so it was not their fault that the so called substitute had a condition which would bring down scorn and ridicule on itself and the family.
That was the parents’ story.
( I read the original  post and modified it as it did not read well.)


People thought things like ,hare lip and cleft palate came about because
an expectant mother was startled by a hare or rabbit .
Life  was  cruel   and any one different would be ridiculed and persecuted.
Remember The Elephant Man,his mother claimed she was frightened by an elephant hence his severe condition.
It was  a strongly held belief even into the sixties that an expectant mother
ought not to visit zoos  ::) ::) ::) ::) or look at people with physical difficulties .
Honestly!
Viktoria.
Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: Finley 1 on Thursday 21 March 19 20:21 GMT (UK)
my aunt was born with only one hand....  her Mother (my Nan)   was convinced it was due to her (my Nan)  being shut in the cellar when she was pregnant. 

xin
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Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 21 March 19 21:32 GMT (UK)
Superstition about changelings was another reason for babies being baptised as soon after birth as possible. Unbaptised babies were believed to be most at risk of substitution.
Title: Re: Changeling? - Census
Post by: Viktoria on Thursday 21 March 19 23:34 GMT (UK)
Yes,they were considered an unclaimed soul,so as well as going into limbo,
seemingly they could also be claimed by old Nick!
I am not wishing to offend anyone who does ,but just to say I personally cannot believe ithings like that.
How hard it must have been when so little  was understood about various conditions and superstition was so prevalent as a result.
We are in rather more enlightened times but still a long way to go.
Viktoria.


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Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 21 March 19 23:42 GMT (UK)
I remember there was a film called "The Changeling" in the 80s I think, it was a psychological thriller.
Carol