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Alfred Moss b 28 April 1868 in Brighton married Edith ??? b 21 December 1877 Bermondsey.
Birth dates lifted from 1939 Register.
Birth places from 1901 Census.
Q. What was Edith’s maiden name; when/where were they married?
Q. Where were Alfred and Edith in 1911?
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Any kids with 'em at 1901?
Location in 1901?
Alone or together at 1891?
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Is this the 1911? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7BF-TWJ
Get MMN from kids birth(s) www.gro.gov.uk
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Alter DOB to 1870 he's a teacher of physical education in Sussex and has 2 daughters Edith 1905 and Maud 1902 but stated as they are born Hastings - not on GRO in Hastings.Married 10 years.
Address 116 Milward Road Hastings
Parish Hastings
County Sussex
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Hastings
Registration district number 69
Enumeration district 11
District number 11
Sub district All Saints
Sub district number 2
Census reference RG14PN4741 RG78PN203 RD69 SD2 ED11 SN152
RG78 code number 203
Piece number 4741
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Alfred Moss b 28 April 1868 in Brighton married Edith ??? b 21 December 1877 Bermondsey.
Birth dates lifted from 1939 Register.
Birth places from 1901 Census.
Q. What was Edith’s maiden name; when/where were they married?
Q. Where were Alfred and Edith in 1911?
It does help if you give us the information from the 1901 you have found rather than leave us to look it up for ourselves. :)
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Can't find a marriage so far to an Edith circa 1901
Mis-transcribed on one census as MORS, also place of birth different for Edith
Do you have any more information you can share
Louisa Maud
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just throwing this out there - ;D Is Maud the Maud Victoria Moss who marries in Hastings in 1929 to a Cecil J Skirth? If so that marriage also gives an alternative name of Trelfer for Maud Victoria. It could be married name and its the wrong Maud Victoria and this was one that was marrying as a widow and totally unrelated but equally she might have been known as Trelfer or Moss. Edited: If that is her she dies as Victoria Maude Skirth in 1974
I can't see a Maud Victoria Moss in Sussex around that time being born 1902-ish but there are other Maud Victoria's. Mum and Dad's information being married 10 years might not necessarily be the exact truth if they were not married at all.
I wonder if the key is the children being registered under mother's maiden name?
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for info here's Alfred on 1891c surname transcribed as MASS
Head Quarter and Garrison Staff
Alfred Moss single Age: 22 occ Instructor in Gymnatstics
Birth Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Aldershot
Residence Place: Aldershot, Aldershot, Hampshire, England
RG12; Piece: 567 : 567 Folio: 76
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Forgive me if I am off on the wrong track...
Victoria Maude Trelfer registered 1901 in Hastings
Edith Alice Trelfer registered 1905 in Hastings.
This Edith seems to marry a William Barber in 1925 in Hastings
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The two Trelfer birth dates fit exactly with the 1911 census for the Moss family.
But they both have mother's maiden surname Phillips :-\
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Forgive me if I am off on the wrong track...
Victoria Maude Trelfer registered 1901 in Hastings
Edith Alice Trelfer registered 1905 in Hastings.
This Edith seems to marry a William Barber in 1925 in Hastings
I've just been looking at this record on F M P
Alfred Moss
Birth year 1868
Birth parish Brighton Sussex
Service number 2982
Regiment 8th Hussars
Year 1886
Attestation date 18 Sep 1886
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months 5
Attestation service number 2982
Attestation corps 8th (King'S Royal Irish) Hussars
Discharge corps 8th (King'S Royal Irish) Hussars
Document type Attestation
next of kin given as
brother William Moss 5 O? Gardens, Edward at Brighton but
his surname Moss has been crossed out and written above looks to read Trefler - it is faint
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Then David Trelfer (possibly aka Alfred Moss) married Edith Alice Philips in Wandsworth in 1900 that matches the 10 years married in 1911.
I wonder if he changed his name for some reason? Or David/Alfred had a stepfather who who either Moss or Trelfer?
Ladyhawk - I'll have a look at that FindMyPast record see if my eyes work ;D ;D
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There is a marriage St Stephens Battersea
Sep 16th 1900
Edith Alice Phillips 22
David Trelfer 31 Gymnastics instructor
Strange but not as strange as when I looked at Alfreds possible service records and saw under Distinguishing marks( I take it a Tattoo) MY name and its a fairly unusual surname!
Cathy
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Then David Trelfer (possibly aka Alfred Moss) married Edith Alice Philips in Wandsworth in 1900 that matches the 10 years married in 1911.
I wonder if he changed his name for some reason?
Ladyhawk - I'll have a look at that FindMyPast record see if my eyes work ;D ;D
David Trefler 31 occupation on that marriage is a Gymnastics Instructor :)
father David Trefler, baker dec'd
Edith 22 her father George Henry Phillips occ traveller
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Birth Reg;
Sept 1901, TRELFER Victoria Maud Hastings 2b 27
+ Edith Alice March 1905
EDIT; GRO has Victoria Mauds Mothers mn as PHILLIPS
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Forgive me if I am off on the wrong track...
Victoria Maude Trelfer registered 1901 in Hastings
Edith Alice Trelfer registered 1905 in Hastings.
This Edith seems to marry a William Barber in 1925 in Hastings
I've just been looking at this record on F M P
Alfred Moss
Birth year 1868
Birth parish Brighton Sussex
Service number 2982
Regiment 8th Hussars
Year 1886
Attestation date 18 Sep 1886
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months 5
Attestation service number 2982
Attestation corps 8th (King'S Royal Irish) Hussars
Discharge corps 8th (King'S Royal Irish) Hussars
Document type Attestation
next of kin given as
brother William Moss 5 O? Gardens, Edward at Brighton but
his surname Moss has been crossed out and written above looks to read Trefler - it is faint
You are quite right - that says Trelfer.
I wonder if the note about fraudulent enlistment in the Army has anything to do with his name change?
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1869 there is a David Trelfer born in Hastings
1871 - can't find yet
1881 census has David Trelfer living in Hurstpierpoint as a Servant at St Johns College (RG11/1066/79 p 3). He is 12 then and born Brighton and post that seems to disappear completely...
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Alfred Moss enlisted in the 8th (King’s Royal Irish) Hussars in 1886 (Regimental No. 2982) based mainly at Aldershot. on demob from Aldershot he secured a position in 1894 as visiting teacher of Physical Education at Wellington Day College for Girls in Hastings -a role he held for quite a number of years [reference Hastings newspapers].
He was a World renowned physical specimen [Google him]. His heavy tattooing militated against him becoming even more 'accepted' as a physical role model.
His equally renowned contemporary 'bodybuilder' Eugen Sandow had a name change before being established as Sandow.
I suppose Alfred Moss MIGHT have had a name change but if he did it was early on as his renown was always as Staff Sergeant Major Alfred Moss.
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If there is a name change for whatever reason (assuming one and the same man) is between the ages of 12 (1881 census?) and September 1886 (aged 18 1/2) when he joins up and back again when he marries in 1900
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next of kin given as
brother William Moss 5 O? Gardens, Edward at Brighton but
his surname Moss has been crossed out and written above looks to read Trefler - it is faint
I think the address is 5 Stien Gardens.
A William Trelfer aged 36, born Brighton, and family are living at 7 Stein Gardens Brighton in 1891. RG 12 / 802 / 13 / 19
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next of kin given as
brother William Moss 5 O? Gardens, Edward at Brighton but
his surname Moss has been crossed out and written above looks to read Trefler - it is faint
I think the address is 5 Stien Gardens.
A William Trelfer aged 36, born Brighton, and family are living at 7 Stein Gardens Brighton in 1891. RG 12 / 802 / 13 / 19
Births:
William Trelfer, 2nd q. 1854, Brighton 2b, 176, mother's maiden surname Sinnock
David Trelfer, 2nd q. 1869, Brighton 2b, 218, mother's maiden surname Sinnock.
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If there was a name change Trelfer->Moss->Trelfer after 'Alfred Moss' was demobbed ca 1894 he still maintained the name Moss into the early 1900s at the Wellington College where he was visiting teacher of gymnastics.
Also 'Alfred Moss' published several books well into the 1920s e.g. Handbook of Free Gymnastics.
Some of these are available on AMAZON & eBay.
How would he get his Army pension if he changed his name back from Moss to Trelfer I wonder?
What's the consensus on all of this? ???
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next of kin given as
brother William Moss 5 O? Gardens, Edward at Brighton but
his surname Moss has been crossed out and written above looks to read Trefler - it is faint
I think the address is 5 Stien Gardens.
A William Trelfer aged 36, born Brighton, and family are living at 7 Stein Gardens Brighton in 1891. RG 12 / 802 / 13 / 19
Good find
William Trefler occ cab man at that address in 1901 with his family
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 921
Folio 93
Page 37
1881 William & Ruth Trefler he's noted as wife's brother in law (surname Pentecost)
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 1081
Folio 13
Page 17
1871 Census William Trefler age 17 Sussex occ servant
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 1076
Folio 85
Page 14
1871 William Trefler 19 Sussex brother (interesting he appears to have the same occupation as one above Po?man
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 1076
Folio 114
Page 32
Ann Trefler Head 19
Fanny 15
Mary 8
Ruth 5
Not finding Alfred/David Trelfer/Moss on 1871 census ???
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next of kin given as
brother William Moss 5 O? Gardens, Edward at Brighton but
his surname Moss has been crossed out and written above looks to read Trefler - it is faint
I think the address is 5 Stien Gardens.
A William Trelfer aged 36, born Brighton, and family are living at 7 Stein Gardens Brighton in 1891. RG 12 / 802 / 13 / 19
1881 census 5, Stiene Gardens, Brighton, Sussex
Piece number 1078
Folio 98
Page 9
Fanny Trefler from 1871 census is now married surname Jenner and living at the above address
also sister Ruth Trelfler is with her
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Nothing on the 1871 and nothing for the baptism of David Trelfer in 1868ish either..... I wonder if he was illegitmate or never knew his parents. There is George Trelfer who was a baker (recalling he said his father was David Trelfer, Baker on the marriage certificate) that fits agewise but unable to marry the names up. That George seems to be in the Workhouse in his elderly years.
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1871 census transcribed as Kelfer
RG 10 / 872 / 56 / 29
8, Fullers Place, Elmers End, Beckenham
George Lipscombe, head, mar, 51, Gardener, Sussex Petworth
Catherine do, wife,m, 59, Laundress, do Pycomb,
Ann Trelfer, dau in law, widow, 40, do, do Symelston
Frederick Sinnock, son in law, unm, 21, plasterer, do do
Frederick ?Furnell, grandson, 5, scholar, Surrey Penge
David Trelfer, grandson, 2, Sussex Brighton
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. I wonder if he was illegitmate or never knew his parents.
Per reply #20, he appears to be born David Trelfer, mother's maiden surname Sinnock.
Marriage, Steyning, 4th q 1852, William Trelfer + on same page Ann Sinnick.
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1871 census transcribed as Kelfer
RG 10 / 872 / 56 / 29
8, Fullers Place, Elmers End, Beckenham
George Lipscombe, head, mar, 51, Gardener, Sussex Petworth
Catherine do, wife,m, 59, Laundress, do Pycomb,
Ann Trelfer, dau in law, widow, 40, do, do Symelston
Frederick Sinnock, son in law, unm, 21, plasterer, do do
Frederick ?Furnell, grandson, 5, scholar, Surrey Penge
David Trelfer, grandson, 2, Sussex Brighton
good spot!
1851 has dad as William Trefler, a baker and a sister Lucy, 8 months.
HO107/1645/807 p 8
(just seen your post with the marriage Jen :))
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. I wonder if he was illegitmate or never knew his parents.
Per reply #20, he appears to be born David Trelfer, mother's maiden surname Sinnock.
Marriage, Steyning, 4th q 1852, William Trelfer + on same page Ann Sinnick.
ah! thank you - missed that one :)
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Well done both :)
Lucy Trelfer Age: 19
Marriage 1870 Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England
Father: William Trelfer
Spouse: Benjamin Brown
Lucy Trelfer
Christening 7 May 1854 Brighton, Sussex,
Father: William Trelfer Mother: Ann
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In 1861 William Trelfer, journeyman baker, + wife Ann and children Lucy, Anne, William, Frances & Joseph are living at 55 Elder Street, Brighton.
RG 9 / 596 / 73 / 16
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Alfred Moss's military papers show that he had a tattoo on his left arm with the name C. Sinnock
I rest my case ;D
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Tremendous efforts -grateful thanks. :-*
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In 1861 William Trelfer, journeyman baker, + wife Ann and children Lucy, Anne, William, Frances & Joseph are living at 55 Elder Street, Brighton.
RG 9 / 596 / 73 / 16
I was about to post following
not finding any birth entries on FreeBMD or GRO indexes for persons below from 1871 census to confirm mother's maiden name
Ann Trelfer Head 1852 Sussex, England
William Trelfer Brother 1852 Sussex, England
Fanny Trelfer - 1856 Sussex, England
Mary Trelfer - 1863 Sussex, England
Ruth Trelfer - 1866 Sussex, England
Alfred Moss's military papers show that he had a tattoo on his left arm with the name C. Sinnock
I rest my case ;D
JenB well done good detective work & also ruth22000
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JenB well done good detective work & also ruth22000
You were the one who noticed the all-important Trelfer name on the attestation papers ;D
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I was about to post following
not finding any birth entries on FreeBMD or GRO indexes for persons below from 1871 census to confirm mother's maiden name
Ann Trelfer Head 1852 Sussex, England
William Trelfer Brother 1852 Sussex, England
Fanny Trelfer - 1856 Sussex, England
Mary Trelfer - 1863 Sussex, England
Ruth Trelfer - 1866 Sussex, England
They are all showing for me, mother's maiden surname Sinnock.
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4 Nov 1872 St Simon Zelotes, Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Annie TREFLER f/a father William Trelfer occ BAKER Dec'd
Henry James Boxendale (Baxendale) f/a tailor father Thomas shoemaker
19 New Street
edit
Ann Trelfer
Baptism 7 May 1854 St Peters, Brighton, Sussex
Father: William Trelfer Mother: Ann
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I'm only posting this due the names - do not know if there maybe a connection to the other TRELFER's
1841 census address Trafalgar Street Brighton
reference HO107
Piece number 1121
Folio number 40
Page number 29
David Trelfer 1811 Sussex, England
Mary Trelfer 1811 Sussex, England
David Trelfer 1786 Sussex, England
Ann Trelfer 1791 Sussex, England
both David's occupation are Sho’ M (Shoemakers)
David Trelfer
02 Jul 1784 Lewes, Sussex, England
father George Trelfer mother Mary
David Trelfer
marriage 25 Jan 1806 Brighton
Ann Elliot
and this 1841 entry
reference HO107
Piece number 1120
Book number 8
Folio number 31
Page number 9
North Street, St Thomas a Becket in the Cliffe, Lewes, Sussex
David Trelfer 1784 occ Cordwainer
Mary Trelfer 1787
George Trelfer 1821 occ Baker
Thomas Trelfer 1823
William Trelfer 1827
Daniel Trelfer 1830
Mary Trelfer 1818
1851 Ivory Place, Brighton, Sussex
David Trelfer Head 1784 Shoe Maker Master Lewes, Sussex
Ann Trelfer Wife 1788 - Slaugham, Sussex, England
Thomas Trelfer Son 1825 Baker Journeyman Slaugham, Sussex
1851 Bond Street Row, Brighton, Sussex
George Trelfer Head 1821 Baker Lewes, Sussex, England
Amelia Trelfer 1824 Shoe Binder Brighton, Sussex, England
Abigail Trelfer 1846 - Brighton, Sussex, England
David Trelfer 1849 - Brighton, Sussex, England
Jesse Trelfer 1851 - Brighton, Sussex, England
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p.s. given the apparent slight uncertainty of David Trelfer/Alfred Moss in 1871 there is probably just a strange coincidence but the 1871 Aldershot Army personnel census [part torn] gives a ??d Moss age 2
father George Moss & from the word fragments it looks like 'Alfred' Moss. Any link ??? Can't see them in 1881.
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p.s. given the apparent slight uncertainty of David Trelfer/Alfred Moss in 1871 there is probably just a strange coincidence but the 1871 Aldershot Army personnel census [part torn] gives a ??d Moss age 2
father George Moss & from the word fragments it looks like 'Alfred' Moss. Any link ??? Can't see them in 1881.
Is this them?
RG11; Piece: 690; Folio: 96; Page: 31 living Camberwell Peckham
George Moss 50 Ipswich
Mary A. Moss 51 Manningtree
Charles E. Moss 18
Frederick Moss 15
Alfred Moss 13 Aldershot
William H. Moss 10
Rosina Moss 7
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p.s. given the apparent slight uncertainty of David Trelfer/Alfred Moss in 1871 there is probably just a strange coincidence but the 1871 Aldershot Army personnel census [part torn] gives a ??d Moss age 2
father George Moss & from the word fragments it looks like 'Alfred' Moss. Any link ??? Can't see them in 1881.
In 1871 he’s with mother Ann in Beckenham, reply #25
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MOSS
1891 RG12; Piece: 482; Folio: 81; Page: 27
Mary A Mass 61
Frederick Mass 24
Alfred Mass 21 Aldershot occ Printer edited not sure of occ.
William Mass 19
Rosina Mass 16
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Yep looks like it.
So that links a red herring ::)
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next of kin given as
brother William Moss 5 O? Gardens, Edward at Brighton but
his surname Moss has been crossed out and written above looks to read Trefler - it is faint
I think the address is 5 Stien Gardens.
A William Trelfer aged 36, born Brighton, and family are living at 7 Stein Gardens Brighton in 1891. RG 12 / 802 / 13 / 19
Births:
William Trelfer, 2nd q. 1854, Brighton 2b, 176, mother's maiden surname Sinnock
David Trelfer, 2nd q. 1869, Brighton 2b, 218, mother's maiden surname Sinnock.
David Trelfer yob should read 1868 and this matches up with the dob you have given from the 1939 Register for Alfred Moss bn 28th April 1868
There is no birth reg. in Jun quarter 1868 for an Alfred Moss
his wife Edith Alice Phillips bn 21 Dec 1877 appears to be registered in the Mar q 1878
Edith Alice PHILLIPS mn FENNER
1878 M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 253
Edit - on. Edith's marriage cert. father named George Henry Phillips this might be his marriage entry
Mar 1868 St Martin 1a 562
Fenner Susan
Hughes Edward
McLean Jessie
Phillips George Henry
Edited - for ref.
George & Susan Phillips
1891 RG12; Piece: 758; Folio: 17; Page: 27 dau Edith age 13
1881 RG11; Piece: 1026; Folio: 102; Page: 42 Dau Edith A age 3
1871 RG10; Piece: 637; Folio: 96; Page: 52
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I wonder if the note about fraudulent enlistment in the Army has anything to do with his name change?
That's interesting!
The record shows him 'In Conf[inemen]t Aw[aitin]g Trial' 26 January 1887 until 10th February 1887.
He was tried and imprisoned on 11.February 1887. 'Former service forfeited on conviction of fraud[ulen]t enlist[ment]'.
He was released 22 April 1887.
If I read it correctly 151 days service was deducted from his record.
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next of kin given as
brother William Moss 5 O? Gardens, Edward at Brighton but
his surname Moss has been crossed out and written above looks to read Trefler - it is faint
I think the address is 5 Stien Gardens.
A William Trelfer aged 36, born Brighton, and family are living at 7 Stein Gardens Brighton in 1891. RG 12 / 802 / 13 / 19
Births:
William Trelfer, 2nd q. 1854, Brighton 2b, 176, mother's maiden surname Sinnock
David Trelfer, 2nd q. 1869, Brighton 2b, 218, mother's maiden surname Sinnock.
David Trelfer yob should read 1868
Ooops, you are quite right, apologies :-[
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Ooops, you are quite right, apologies :-[
It's easily done I only noticed because I was looking at the posted birth date for 1939 register
I kept getting the l & f the wrong way round in Trelfer - that's probably why I couldn't find the birth entries you have found with mn ::)
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Ooops, you are quite right, apologies :-[
It's easily done I only noticed because I was looking at the posted birth date for 1939 register
I kept getting the l & f the wrong way round in Trelfer - that's probably why I couldn't find the birth entries you have found with mn ::)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who kept getting the L & F the wrong way round and wondering why I couldn't find things I'd found 5 minutes earlier.... :-[
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Love how RootsChatters get their heads around problematic families and brick walls. :)
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Did he fraudulently enlist as David Trelfer or Alfred Moss?
If the latter it's odd that he continued to claim/was allowed to claim that nomenclature from then on.
Had he been jailed as David Trelfer which the Army questionnaire would require him to declare?
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Love how RootsChatters get their heads around problematic families and brick walls. :)
Yes, and what you originally thought was quite simple turns out to be much more interesting...... ;)
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Did he fraudulently enlist as David Trelfer or Alfred Moss?
Had he been jailed as David Trelfer which the Army questionnaire would require him to declare?
Given that we know his given name was David Trelfer I suppose we would have to assume that the enlistment as Alfred Moss was fraudulent.
It's interesting that on the enlistment papers the surname of his next of kin has been changed from Moss to Trelfer (as noted in reply #15)
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Service in Canada as David Trelfer in the 97th Foot Soldiers (28 November 1884 signing up in Maidstone, Kent) giving a birthplace as Beckenham, Kent which fits with the 1871 when he was living with grandparents and might not have known different/assumed he was born there.
There is a Court Martial for a David Trelfer on 26 January 1885 at Maidstone...can't see what for though. West Kent Regiment.
Fits with issues in 1886 when he signs up as Alfred Moss? Dodging he has been court martialled the year before for something?
And the Boar War 3rd Battalion Royal Sussex regiment in South Africa in 1902 again as David Trelfer
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Now then! The two names used on his death registration!
Death, 4th quarter 1952, Hastings 5H 350, Alfred Moss aged 84
Death, 4th quarter 1952, Hastings 5H 350, David Trelfer aged 84.
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And following on from Jen's death registrations he has left a will...probate registration says:
Trelfer, David or Moss, Alfred dying at 22 St Helens Road, Hastings on 8 December 1952 probate to Edith Alice Trelfer, Widow
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Edith Alice dies as Edith Alice Moss or Trelfer on 21 July 1968 St Johns Nursing Home, Hastings
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Good Lord! What a roller coaster ride. :'(
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Good Lord! What a roller coaster ride. :'(
It's good isn't it ;D
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Good Lord! What a roller coaster ride. :'(
Certainly is ;D
its that court martial in 1885 that seems to be the key but I can only see the date it happened and where. No newspapers report it (that I can find at least) or his troubles in 1887 either. It must have been the court martial that triggered his name change...makes you wonder what he did!
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On the David Trelfer military papers you mentioned earlier it says that he deserted, but I can't make out the date. Every other date on the page is written clearly >:(
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On the David Trelfer military papers you mentioned earlier it says that he deserted, but I can't make out the date. Every other date on the page is written clearly >:(
I think I'm going soft in the head...what page is that on the papers themselves? Can't see it :(
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On the David Trelfer military papers you mentioned earlier it says that he deserted, but I can't make out the date. Every other date on the page is written clearly >:(
I think I'm going soft in the head...what page is that on the papers themselves? Can't see it :(
The page with his name on is only half of the record click on the right hand arrow and you’ll see the rest of the page.
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On the David Trelfer military papers you mentioned earlier it says that he deserted, but I can't make out the date. Every other date on the page is written clearly >:(
I think I'm going soft in the head...what page is that on the papers themselves? Can't see it :(
The page with his name on is only half of the record click on the right hand arrow and you’ll see the rest of the page.
;D I am thick....
Looks like he attests 28 November 1884 with the 97th and then deserts on 9 September 1886 at Chatham, Kent and goes to the Hussars on 18 September 1886. Quick worker! ;D
Still doesn't get us far with the Court Martial in 1885 though....
As far as I can see the 97th formed part of the West Kent Regiment which might explain why he was down with Court Martial (I keep typing Martian... ;D) at West Kent in 1885
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You both have been busy again adding more info....... :)
Still doesn't get us far with the Court Martial in 1885 though....
As far as I can see the 97th formed part of the West Kent Regiment which might explain why he was down with Court Martial (I keep typing Martian... ;D) at West Kent in 1885
David Trelfer
Court or Trial Date: 26 Jan 1885
Court or Trial Place: Maidstone
Regiment: W. Kent
Reference Number: WO 86/34
Looking at National Archives this is what it says Series WO 86, all pieces
“District Courts Martial registers, Home and Abroad from the Judge Advocate General’s Office
Name, rank, regiment, place of trial, nature of charge and sentence for each prisoner
You can search for records at Anc* but images of the records are exclusive to Fold3 (£)
1829-1979”
You can have a free trial but have to add your card details (then you need to cancel after free trial)
Perhaps someone reading this might have access and is able to provide the details :)
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Just been reading through this very interesting thread. The Rootschatters are brilliant! Amazing detective work. Well done
Chris
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Well done all what a chase ;D