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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: aakarlhamo on Monday 06 May 19 08:10 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am looking for information on the Belmullet Board of Guardians and my GGF Patrick Henry Reilly, b abt 1834-40 d1908 Belmullet, who was Chairman in 1864 and his father Henry Reilly who was also involved at that time.
I have the obituary for Patrick Henry who died 3 May 1908 Belmullet. The obituary describes his father as the late Henry Reilly. I have also found various newspaper articles dated 1864 where there was an incident of the Board of Guardian books being fiddled. One of the articles gives a who's who of the Reilly family, cousins and uncles, who were involved in the Board of Guardians at that time. It mentions Chairman Patrick Henry and his father Henry.
Am I allowed to upload the newspaper clippings?
That is as far back as I have been able to get, however, in Patrick Henry's obituary it also say's that he was educated by Anthony Corcoran who was the Priest at Killala. I think he died abt 1852?
I can't find any info on Anthony Corcoran apart from his name being mentioned in church articles. I have deduced, rightly or wrongly, that Henry's wife's maiden name would have been Corcoran so it would be good to try and find something on that family. Patrick Henry's wife's name is Maria Gallagher and she was born abt 1840.
Thanks
Carole
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Have you tried https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp ?
just tick births or whatever and put in year ranges allow maybe 2 years each way!
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
Also https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0742 Belmullet
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Is this your Patrick?
Name PATRICK REILLY
Date of Death 1908
Group Registration ID 5011581
Deceased Age at Death 74
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05476/4533183.pdf
Registered Binghamstown in Belmullet DISTRICT
May be buried near there?
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IF they were from Binghamstown then they won't be in Belmullet Parish....
Kilmore Erris https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0752
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Thank you everyone ;D
Yes I love Irish Geaneology and I have found Patrick's death certificate on there - same as you have posted Hallmark.
I also have the census available for Patrick Henry and his wife Maria.
I have literally gone through Irish Geaneology civil records it with a fine tooth comb for all of them Henry and there is a death in Oct 1864 for Henry Reilly age 64. The person present was son Michael and not sure if Michael is a name in the family, so not sure on that one.
I understand that records are limited but I thought that some info would have come up with a google search for the Board of Guardians?
Does Ireland have family Archives in each area. Where else do you search for info?
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IF they were from Binghamstown then they won't be in Belmullet Parish....
Kilmore Erris https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0752
Didn't know of this one so I will go and have a look - Thanks :D
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IF they were from Binghamstown then they won't be in Belmullet Parish....
Kilmore Erris https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0752
Didn't know of this one so I will go and have a look - Thanks :D
That is why Links etc are important, I was looking in Belmullet as you said they were from there, but Patrick was in Binghamstown.
It says Binghamstown on the Cert.
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You'll need to look at any other Certs you have to see where they lived when Registering BDM's
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On The 1901 Census he is living at 6 Barrack Street, Belmullet. In 1911 his wife and children are still at Barrack Street. The newspaper article says that Patrick Henry - then calling himself as Pat O'Reilly, was of Belmullet.
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What is on their Certs??
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
Also https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0742 Belmullet
I had a look at the marriages but couldn't see anything for Patrick Henry Reilly and Maria Gallagher upto 1867. They had their eldest son Patrick in 1866. Patrick will have been working at the Board of Guardians? I will double check but also wonder if Maria was from another town and they married there? I have nothing on her.
Looks like there is a wealth of info in that site so I will look for other family members too - thank you again for the link.
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What is on their Certs??
Do you mean the Census - Barrack Street, Belmullet, Mayo.
His first child, Patrick Henry, born 1866 Civil Registration record comes up as Belmullet although I have seen a record with Binghamstown, I think that was on Family Search, so it is confusing.
Patrick Henry's death certificate is District of Binghamstown and Union of Belmullet.
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See Reply #8
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What is on their Certs??
Do you mean the Census - Barrack Street, Belmullet, Mayo.
His first child, Patrick Henry, born 1866 Civil Registration record comes up as Belmullet although I have seen a record with Binghamstown, I think that was on Family Search, so it is confusing.
Patrick Henry's death certificate is District of Binghamstown and Union of Belmullet.
IF you actually look...... His Birth is also registered in Binghamstown!![/b]
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I only have the death certificate for Patrick Henry.
Apart from that the family lived at Barrack Street Belmullet when Patrick Henry died and they had lived there since 1901 as per the census.
I have still to go through the civil records and get the birth certificates for Patrick Henry's children so that is something I can do. Do they give the actual address where born. I can even look on that parish record site for the baptism record as well :D
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Ahh, I thought you had literally gone through Irish Genealogy civil records it with a fine tooth comb for all of them.
With his Birth Registered Binghamstown and his Death Registered Binghamstown I suspect that they were from around Binghamstown
IF they were from Binghamstown then they won't be in Belmullet Parish.... but in
Kilmore Erris https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0752
To find his Birth Reg just put his name in, Year and Tick Birth on the example I posted...
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This will find his Birth registered as you can see in Binghamstown district...
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https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=24
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You'll need to look at any other Certs you have to see where they lived when Registering BDM's
Doesn’t Binghamstown Registration District cover Belmullet?
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I had a look at the marriages but couldn't see anything for Patrick Henry Reilly and Maria Gallagher upto 1867.
Looks like there is a wealth of info in that site so I will look for other family members too - thank you again for the link.
Obviously, as you don't know where she was from you'd have to search for her marriage "somewhere" so you'd need a basic search with no district IF she Married after Civil Reg started and they registered it, but will need to wait until next update "due soon"
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There is this marriage but with few details in Belmullet parish
Looks as though it is October 21st 1860 - bottom right hand page
Pat Reily and Maria Gallaher
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634607#page/10/mode/1up
If that is your family, there would be children earlier than your findings, I think.
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You'll need to look at any other Certs you have to see where they lived when Registering BDM's
Doesn’t Binghamstown Registration District cover Belmullet?
No, Belmullet is where the Superintendent's Office was!
Registers from Binghamstown Reg Office would be sent to Belmullet every quarter of year.
Their nearest Reg Office was Binghamstown.
Belmullet covers Belmullet ;D
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Using Catholic nli site, https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0742 you might want to check:
Michl Reilly bap 12th January 1864 mmn Gallaher
I hwven’t looked on the site but found it on Ancestry. The registers are quite difficult to follow.
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I was just going off this re the registrar’s area
https://www.johngrenham.com/places/regdist_results.php?rdid=575&order=placename®ISTRARS_DISTRICT=Binghamstown&PLU=Binghamstown
My connections are south of Binghamstown so it is always that but just wondered ;)
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I was just going off this re the registrar’s area
https://www.johngrenham.com/places/regdist_results.php?rdid=575&order=placename®ISTRARS_DISTRICT=Binghamstown&PLU=Binghamstown
My connections are south of Binghamstown so it is always that but just wondered ;)
It is quiet near Belmullet so I reckon covers most of the townlands on headland and nearby islands.
As you see Bangor Erris Reg office which is miles away is also part of Belmullet Superintendant's area
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The only importance of "Binghamstown" is the Parish it is in! Kilmore Erris
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O k. You have made your point.
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;D
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As ever .... ::) ;) ;D
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Lovely part of the country. Only know it when taking son to a place that teaches Snorkelling, Windsurfing, Sailing etc there.
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We have family just close by - wonderful!
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Michael's birth was at the start of civil registration so look's like he was'nt registered
right hand page 12th Jan 1864
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634606#page/106/mode/1up
underneath his baptism is the baptism of Mary Padden dtr of Thomas Padden and Margaret Geraghty 17th Jan 1864
born 8th Jan 1864 at Toorglass ? not registered till 15th April 1864 side note by registrar to be cancelled ? after 3 ?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03612/2332630.pdf
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Hi
I am looking for information on the Belmullet Board of Guardians and my GGF Patrick Henry Reilly, b abt 1834-40 d1908 Belmullet, who was Chairman in 1864 and his father Henry Reilly who was also involved at that time.
Thanks
Carole
So how do these relate to your GT Grandfather Edward O'Reilly abt 1855 Cavan and his wife Margaret abt 1857 Leitrim ?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=801603.msg6593653#msg6593653
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There is this marriage but with few details in Belmullet parish
Looks as though it is October 21st 1860 - bottom right hand page
Pat Reily and Maria Gallaher
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634607#page/10/mode/1up
If that is your family, there would be children earlier than your findings, I think.
Thank you for the Patrick Henry and Maria Gallagher marriage that is brilliant.
I totally agree that there could be earlier children based on the date of their marriage. So far the children have started with Patrick Henry 1866 but I will search again starting with those registers and adjust my search dates.
Thanks again and well chuffed ;D
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Oh Wow Hallmark, where did you find that?
The workhouse was built in 1848 so looks like the Guardians were active before?
I wonder if that was Henry Reilly, Patrick Henry's Dad as mentioned in the 1864 newspaper.
I deduced from the newspaper article that Thomas J Reilly was his brother so maybe he was one of the 3 Reilly's mentioned in your article? Either way the Reilly's were quite involved - interesting?
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Oh Wow Hallmark, where did you find that?
The workhouse was built in 1848 so looks like the Guardians were active before?
I wonder if that was Henry Reilly, Patrick Henry's Dad as mentioned in the 1864 newspaper.
I deduced from the newspaper article that Thomas J Reilly was his brother so maybe he was one of the 3 Reilly's mentioned in your article? Either way the Reilly's were quite involved - interesting?
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Michael's birth was at the start of civil registration so look's like he was'nt registered
right hand page 12th Jan 1864
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634606#page/106/mode/1up
underneath his baptism is the baptism of Mary Padden dtr of Thomas Padden and Margaret Geraghty 17th Jan 1864
born 8th Jan 1864 at Toorglass ? not registered till 15th April 1864 side note by registrar to be cancelled ? after 3 ?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03612/2332630.pdf
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Hi
I am looking for information on the Belmullet Board of Guardians and my GGF Patrick Henry Reilly, b abt 1834-40 d1908 Belmullet, who was Chairman in 1864 and his father Henry Reilly who was also involved at that time.
Thanks
Carole
So how do these relate to your GT Grandfather Edward O'Reilly abt 1855 Cavan and his wife Margaret abt 1857 Leitrim ?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=801603.msg6593653#msg6593653
Carole,
Are you now looking for different ancestors? This is confusing.
How have you arrived in Belmullet from Cavan/Leitrim? Is it a different branch of your family?
It would help to know and prevent unnecessary searching.
Heywood
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Apologies.
It is that previous thread that is wrong, I think.
Your Kate is a Reilly from Belmullet. Thank goodness :)
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Oh Wow Hallmark, where did you find that?
The workhouse was built in 1848 so looks like the Guardians were active before?
I wonder if that was Henry Reilly, Patrick Henry's Dad as mentioned in the 1864 newspaper.
I deduced from the newspaper article that Thomas J Reilly was his brother so maybe he was one of the 3 Reilly's mentioned in your article? Either way the Reilly's were quite involved - interesting?
Well Bingham was sent sacks and sacks full of seed potatoes which were meant to be given to the locals to plant, he kept them and planted them so he could sell the crop to any that had money to buy them... and any that couldn't went on starving!
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In the mid 19th century John Reilly prospered in business in the town of Belmullet and began to acquire lands. He bought land that had formerly been in the possession of the Houston and Nash families and in 1868 he leased more than 1000 acres from Reverend Sir William Palmer in the barony of Erris, county Mayo. In 1876 Thomas F.O'Reilly of Carne House, Belmullet, owned 6472 acres in county Mayo. By March 1916 he had accepted an offer from the Congested Districts' Board for the purchase of his estate and Noone writes of the sale of the estate in 1920 to the Board.
http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=348
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Apologies.
It is that previous thread that is wrong, I think.
Your Kate is a Reilly from Belmullet. Thank goodness :)
;D ;D Kate Reilly who is a Catherine born 1882 Belmullet is the daughter of Patrick Henry Reilly
The children of Patrick Henry are from Belmullet but not sure where his father Henry was born?
I haven't delved too much into my grandmother Kate/Catherine- the Reillys first - but she married a policeman, George Mckeon in 1908, when he was posted to Belmullet. They later had a small holding in Mountmelmick (sorry for spelling) where Kate would give their food and bake cakes for the poor people - much to George's annoyance. So it was nice to tell the cousin who told me that story about Kate's father and grandfather being connected to the Board of Guardians and that it was in her genes to help :D
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In the mid 19th century John Reilly prospered in business in the town of Belmullet and began to acquire lands. He bought land that had formerly been in the possession of the Houston and Nash families and in 1868 he leased more than 1000 acres from Reverend Sir William Palmer in the barony of Erris, county Mayo. In 1876 Thomas F.O'Reilly of Carne House, Belmullet, owned 6472 acres in county Mayo. By March 1916 he had accepted an offer from the Congested Districts' Board for the purchase of his estate and Noone writes of the sale of the estate in 1920 to the Board.
http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=348
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Thom’s Almanac 1859
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nre/
Belmullet Union
Vice Chairman Thomas Reilly Esq. Belmullet
Clerk and Returning Officer Patrick Reilly
Master P Reilly
1860 report refers to Thomas Reilly and Thomas J Reilly
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nrf/
From google books
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Griffiths Valuation
Reilly in Belmullet area - Kilcommon Civil Parish
https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/mayo/kilcommon.htm
Reilly in Kilmore Civil Parish - Binghamstown et al
https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/mayo/kilmore.htm
Lots of Reillys :)
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In the mid 19th century John Reilly prospered in business in the town of Belmullet and began to acquire lands. He bought land that had formerly been in the possession of the Houston and Nash families and in 1868 he leased more than 1000 acres from Reverend Sir William Palmer in the barony of Erris, county Mayo. In 1876 Thomas F.O'Reilly of Carne House, Belmullet, owned 6472 acres in county Mayo. By March 1916 he had accepted an offer from the Congested Districts' Board for the purchase of his estate and Noone writes of the sale of the estate in 1920 to the Board.
http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=348
Think I saw this in my searches but dismissed it thinking that my Reilly's weren't rich to own so much land being small farmers/shop owners.
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Hi
I am looking for information on the Belmullet Board of Guardians and my GGF Patrick Henry Reilly, b abt 1834-40 d1908 Belmullet, who was Chairman in 1864 and his father Henry Reilly who was also involved at that time.
You might find them mentioned here...
https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Irish+papers+-+poor+law%2C+social+insurance%22&page=9
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Oh Wow Hallmark, where did you find that?
The workhouse was built in 1848 so looks like the Guardians were active before?
I wonder if that was Henry Reilly, Patrick Henry's Dad as mentioned in the 1864 newspaper.
I deduced from the newspaper article that Thomas J Reilly was his brother so maybe he was one of the 3 Reilly's mentioned in your article? Either way the Reilly's were quite involved - interesting?
some lands held by Denis Bingham in the Mullet and in Doolough were placed in trust for William Bingham, as well as lands in Doolough and Gortmore held by Arthur Houston.
One parcel of land was in the townland of Curraboy, by Saleen Harbour (to the south of Binghamstown) and it was here that William erected stores, also a dwelling house (Bay View) which was approx ¼ mile east of the harbour.
The harbour enterprise was not particularly successful, so in early 1848 he leased the stores for use as an auxiliary workhouse and got the post of workhouse superintendent. This proved his undoing: he contracted fever and died later that year.
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archive.org / search.php?query= Binghamstown
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nrg/
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Blimey, I am over whelmed with the amount of info you have found I can't keep up and it will take me a month of Sunday's to work though it all ;D
There are some great links and sites that I have bookmarked so thank you Hallmark and Heywood.
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Henry Reilly wore Size 8 shoes! ;D
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Henry Reilly wore Size 8 shoes! ;D
That is hilarious ;D ;D
How did you find that out :o
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Michael's birth was at the start of civil registration so look's like he was'nt registered
right hand page 12th Jan 1864
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634606#page/106/mode/1up
underneath his baptism is the baptism of Mary Padden dtr of Thomas Padden and Margaret Geraghty 17th Jan 1864
born 8th Jan 1864 at Toorglass ? not registered till 15th April 1864 side note by registrar to be cancelled ? after 3 ?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03612/2332630.pdf
Brilliant and thank you - I have added Michael to my tree ;D