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Title: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Friday 26 July 19 12:16 BST (UK)
The above apparently married Jack Judges and had 1 child but I'd like to know when Lily married Jack and who, when and where the child was born, and whether the child married and had children?
Cr
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 04 August 19 18:15 BST (UK)
There is no way to know for sure if the following is your Jack and Lily Winifred but have found this couple on a number of voters lists. One has Jack, the rest John. All are for the same address. There is a 3rd party with them on the 1968 list who is a student. Probably still living so I will PM the details. The party would have had to be 21 to vote which suggests a mid to lateish 1940's birth, which in turn suggests a rather later in life marriage if this is your couple. Marriages and births in this time frame would be protected by privacy legislation. You would need to find other ways to learn more, such as newspaper birth and marriage announcements or obits, or perhaps social media or the telephone directory.

Living at 14 Barker Ave in York East for all.....

1949
John Judges Photographer
Mrs John

1953
John O Judges Photographer
Mrs Winnifred

1958
John Judges Photographer
Winifred

1963
Jack Judges Photographer
Winnifred

1965
John O Judges Photo
Winnifred

1968
Mr John Judges Photographer
Mrs Winifred
....... Student 

1972
John Judges L.C.B.O.
Winnifred

There is also another John/Jack Judges in the voters lists who also happens to be a photographer. He is listed at various addresses in the some of the same years posted above but in the same household is a Mrs Gwen. He is John R in one record.

PB

Added....do you have the Rosser family in the 1921 census? They are apparently living in Ontario at this point.

Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 04 August 19 18:36 BST (UK)
I found an obit for a John (Jack) Ross Judges...could be one of these Johns.  Unfortunately, there is no mention of his age, or of his wife :'(

He died at the Centenary Health Centre on Aug 25 1993.  Father of G, A and C.  Grandfather of B, J and J.  Uncle of R Bechard.  Interment Erskine Cemetery, Pickering. 

RK
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 04 August 19 18:51 BST (UK)
Just found Lily...

Obit in the Toronto Star, 9 Feb 1996, page B13. 

Winnifred Lillian (nee Rosser) Judges died at the South Muskoka Memorial Hospital in Bracebridge on Feb 5 1996.  Wife of John (Jack) of Gravenhurst.  Mother of W and his wife S of Walker's Point.  Grandmother of L, S and J.  Survived by brothers Edward and Aubrey of Haliburton, sister Mrs Phyllis Hayes of Shelburne and many nieces and nephews.   Predeceased by sister Elaine.  No indication where she is buried. 

RK
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 04 August 19 19:18 BST (UK)
Hi RK

Great find for Lily!

Knew you'd very likely find an obit or 2  :). I think the John Ross one is probably the other John/Jack?

PB
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 04 August 19 19:46 BST (UK)
Thanks PB :).   It really helped that you found the family in the Toronto area :)

The Jack with the middle initial O that you found is definitely the right one.

Obit for John (Jack) Octavius Judges in the Toronto Star 21 Dec 2002 page B6.  He died at the South Muskoka Memorial Hospital in Bracebridge on 19 Dec 2002.  He was in his 91st year.  Predeceased by wife Winnifred Lillian Judges (nee Rosser) on Feb 5 1996.  Father to W Judges (wife L) of Bracebridge.  Mother in law of S Judges of Walker's Point.  Predeceased by 7 brothers and sisters.  Grandfather of L Judges (J Murphy), S (D) Bennett, and J Judges.  Great grandmother to 2 named boys. 

RK
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 04 August 19 19:50 BST (UK)


Great stuff as usual RK and everyone.  ;)

Sandra
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 04 August 19 20:00 BST (UK)
 :) :)

Looks like the son is a builder in Muskoka. 

RK
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 04 August 19 20:04 BST (UK)
Not seeing a marriage for John/Jack and Winnifred Lillian.

Found it...

Globe and Mail 31 Aug 1940 page 10. 

Judges-Rosser Friday Ceremony. 
St. Aidan's Wedding and King Edward party.

Marriage took place last night at St. Aidan's Anglican Church of Miss Winnifred Lillian Rosser, eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs J Rosser of East York to Mr John Octavius Judges, son of the late Mrs ? S Judges.  Miss Elaine Rosser was her sister's attendant.  The ushers were Mr Leslie Judges, brother of the bridegroom and Mr Eddie Rosser, brother of the bride.  Reception at the King Edward Hotel.   Also mentioned by name in the notice is Mrs Norman Quinton, sister of the bridegroom. 

RK
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Monday 05 August 19 09:54 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your superb research.
Where is St. Aidan's Anglican Church -is that in Toronto and was the marriage 30/8/1940?
Cr
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: RunKitty on Monday 05 August 19 13:54 BST (UK)
Hi,

The wedding notice didn't give a location for the Church, so it must have been in Toronto.   The reception was at a hotel in downtown Toronto - so the Church must have been fairly close.  There is only one Anglican St Aidan's Church in Toronto and it is in the Eastern part of the city.   This makes sense, given the voters list information found by PB....after they were married, the couple lived about 5.5 kms away from the Church.     

https://www.staidansinthebeach.com/

The wedding notice from the 31st said "last night", so that would be the 30th. 

RK
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: polarbear on Monday 05 August 19 14:14 BST (UK)
You are very welcome  :).

If you are looking at trying to make contact with the family you should be able to contact the son through his company. Just google him and location.....several hits should appear.

You could also try the telephone directory using info from the more recent obit....

https://www.canada411.ca

PB



Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: polarbear on Monday 05 August 19 16:24 BST (UK)
Looks like an email contact at the bottom of this note from a few years back. It may or may not be still in use.

https://muskokabuilders.com/lead-time-needed-construction-projects-muskoka/

PB
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Saturday 14 September 19 11:18 BST (UK)
Sorry polarbear I overlooked your reply about the building firm but have now emailed them to see if they can help.
Cr
Title: Re: Lily Winnifred Daisy Rosser b 2 Jun 1913 Quebec
Post by: polarbear on Saturday 14 September 19 13:44 BST (UK)
Hope you have a successful outcome.

PB