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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: Lace34 on Wednesday 17 August 05 13:37 BST (UK)
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Strange as this may sound none of my family members remember anything much about my grandad Alfred Hopkin and he only died in 1978 >:(
lf anyone can found out anything l would be in your debt forever.
Small pieces l have dragged out of my father are:
Alfred was born in 1912
His Father was apparently called Alfred too.
He had a brother named Wilfred who born born around 1910.
All above originally lived in Hessle...my father was born at 69 worchestor road wold road hessle and he remembers it His Grandads house at the time.
Not much to go on l know.
If any further info is needed feel free to yell at me.
Thanks
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
Where would he have been born?
Perhaps his birth will be on
http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/
Otherwise you may have to look up 1837online.
Can't find any Alfred Hopkin on 1901 Census in Yorkshire (though there are quite a few Alfred HopkinS's)
Tanja :)
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Hi and thankyou.
lve just been looking on family search and free bmd and l am now wondering if they dropped the 's' so Hopkins became Hopkin. For the elder Alfred lve just been informed that he could have been an Alfred Ernest and was born c1875. Alfreds son (also could have been alfred ernest as a letter l have to my grandmother from him is signed alfred e....until now l thought the e was just a mrak on the paper.)
My uncle has also remembered that Alfred senior was a policeman and then went on to 'rent' horses to the hull city council railroad. Theres also a mention of him living at some time or other at 9 Beeford Grove.
Rachel.
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Hi Rachel
yorkshirebmd has 2 possible births
1) Alfred Hopkins b 1912 Drypool, reference DRY/105/306
2) Alfred E Hopkin b 1911 Myton MYT/47a/137
You could also try looking at electoral rolls
happy hunting
Bee
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Are you still looking for this?
Alfred Ernest Hopkin b 21 Sept 1911 (mother nee Langley)
Alfred Ernest Hopkin m Rachel Langley Mar 1908 Sculcoates 9d 241
Richard
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You say he died in 1978- well the one who Richard has just found with a DOB of 21 Sept 1911- did indeed die in the Sept 1/4 of 1978 in Whitby.
Regards
Carol
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You say he died in 1978- well the one who Richard has just found with a DOB of 21 Sept 1911- did indeed die in the Sept 1/4 of 1978 in Whitby.
Regards
Carol
Yes, it was that entry that gave me the birth.
As the original question was from 2005 I imagine that things have moved on by now.
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Hello
Thanks for the replies.
Yes! That is my Grandfather. l havent yet gained any new info regarding any of the Alfred Ernest Hopkin(s) as due to my grandparents on the 'other side' having critical health issues lve decided to plough through their ancestors whilst they are still around to show the results.
l will return to this one day in the not too distant future hopefully.
Many thanks again.
Rachel
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When you do come back to this side of the family I think you will need to buy the Alfred Hopkin/Rachel Langley marriage certificate.
Rachel is likely to be the Rachel Langley, 16, living in Sculcoates in 1901 with her parents William and Mary; age and father on the certificate would confirm.
There isn't an Alfred Hopkin of the right age, but there is an Ernest, 17, born in Hull, living in Sculcoates. Again, Ernest appears to be illegitimate. The certificate may give a clue.
1901 RG13/4466
Eliza J Would, 41, widow, b Laceby, Lincs
Ernest Hopkin, 17, son, b Hull
Albert Would, 15, son, b Hull
All three were there in 1891 as well.
Eliza Jane Hopkin born Sep 1859 Caistor
Eliza Jane Hopkin m John Would Jun 1884 Hull
John Would dies Mar 1887 age 37 Sculcoates
Richard
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Geez, my family had a lot of illegitimates!
Even now they dont make things easy ;)
l will buy the certificate soon as lve to order other certificates just to try find out who my 'other' grandfathers father is! Maybe he too was illegitimate.
As always thanks,
l will let you know (in all current situations) how l get on.
Rachel
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Currently researching Hopkin line (my Mother's maiden name) I have an Alfred Ernest born 1884 died 1932.
I am on Genes Reunited.
But if you have any info to share would be grateful and I can fill you in on my line and what I have found so far. My mother is Gwendoline Gilbert (nee Hopkin), Father Charles Richard married Mary Parkin. Grandpa Charles retired as Chief Super in the Hull policeforce and became a farmer but lost money and somehow ended up living in Manchester possibly to be closer to my mother.
Regards Veronica
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Hi,
Just letting everyone know that l am now back into researching and will add any additional info l recover in due course.
l am sort of starting over as l have to refresh my memory on all the finds l have so far - could take a while!
Thanks again
Rachel.
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Sorry to drag this old thread up again but l have had updated information.
Seems that Alfred Ernests father (also Alfred) did indeed marry Rachel Langley. Rachel and her husband went on to have l believe 6 children, there was however NO Wilfred, my dad suddenly remembered that 'Wilf' may have been a great uncle and not a brother of my grandad (Alfred Jnr). Rachel's parents are as you said William and Mary.
Alfred snr however was not named after his dad, l have now been told that his father was called Richard! Also the surname, Richard Hopkins - l do know that the 's' was dropped after Richard as my grandad used to hate anyone adding the 's' to his surname.
So sorry! there was no Wilf which led us astray. Now l need to figure out roughly which year Richard was married to obtain a certificate, l am about to search census records as now l am determined to figure out exactly when the 's' was dropped.
No doubt l shall find a few more surprises.
Rachel.
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Alfred snr however was not named after his dad, l have now been told that his father was called Richard! Also the surname, Richard Hopkins - l do know that the 's' was dropped after Richard as my grandad used to hate anyone adding the 's' to his surname.
Rachel.
How do you know it is Richard? Did the marriage certificate give a name?
It is, of course, possible that Eliza Jane was married to a Hopkin(s) before she married John Would. Did the marriage certificate describe her as a widow? It would mean that the birth in 1859 is the wrong Eliza Jane. The 1861 and 1871 censuses each have an Eliza Jane Hopkin born in Laceby in 1859/60. the chances of there being another Eliza Jane, born in the same place and the same time, who married a Hopkin(s) seem very remote. So I'm not sure where Richard fits into the picture.
Richard
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I've just been rereading thee posts and I'm not sure what is fact and what is hearsay.
The birth of Alfred Ernest Hopkin in 1911 gives his mother's maiden name as Langley, so we can be fairly certain that the marriage in 1908 between Alfred and Rachel is the right one.
As an aside, the other Hopkin/Langley births in Hull on freebmd are:
Linda R Hopkin Mar 1916
Alice Hopkin Jun 1917
Charles W Hopkin Jun 1918
The Alfred Ernest Hopkin(s) birth at roughly the right time in roughly the right place is this one:
Alfred Ernest Hopkins Jun 1884 Doncaster (not Hull, but quite close)
Eliza Jane may be a red herring as the Ernest Hopkin in the census is likely to be this one:
Ernest Hopkin Sep 1883 Hull ie no sign of an Alfred in his name.
The latest addition is the name Richard. If this is true, then this seems the best bet:
RG12/3864
20 Duke St, Doncaster
Richard Hopkins, 39, gen lab
Elizabeth H, 42, b Kakenham, Norfolk
Thomas H H, 17, lab, b Castleford, Yorks
Richard H, 14, lab
Charles H, 12
Arthur H, 10
Alfred E Hopkins, 7
Archibald H, 5
Florence S H, 1 all others b Doncaster
It all really depends on how you know about Richard.
Not an illegitimate one in sight I'm afraid!
Richard
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I've just been rereading thee posts and I'm not sure what is fact and what is hearsay.
The birth of Alfred Ernest Hopkin in 1911 gives his mother's maiden name as Langley, so we can be fairly certain that the marriage in 1908 between Alfred and Rachel is the right one.
As an aside, the other Hopkin/Langley births in Hull on freebmd are:
Linda R Hopkin Mar 1916
Alice Hopkin Jun 1917
Charles W Hopkin Jun 1918
The Alfred Ernest Hopkin(s) birth at roughly the right time in roughly the right place is this one:
Alfred Ernest Hopkins Jun 1884 Doncaster (not Hull, but quite close)
Eliza Jane may be a red herring as the Ernest Hopkin in the census is likely to be this one:
Ernest Hopkin Sep 1883 Hull ie no sign of an Alfred in his name.
The latest addition is the name Richard. If this is true, then this seems the best bet:
RG12/3864
20 Duke St, Doncaster
Richard Hopkins, 39, gen lab
Elizabeth H, 42, b Kakenham, Norfolk
Thomas H H, 17, lab, b Castleford, Yorks
Richard H, 14, lab
Charles H, 12
Arthur H, 10
Alfred E Hopkins, 7
Archibald H, 5
Florence S H, 1 all others b Doncaster
It all really depends on how you know about Richard.
Not an illegitimate one in sight I'm afraid!
Richard
Linda Rachel Hopkin is my Mother and is still alive aged 97
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New to this site. just reading family trees and Alfred Ernest Hopkin was my grandfather who lived in Londesborough street Hull at his time of death, he married Rachel Langley (Hopkin) who was my grandma her daughter Linda Rachel Hopkin Now Dransfield is still alive at the age of 97 and lives in Selby.
Roy
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My Granddad was Alfred Ernest Hopkin who married Rachel Langley
My mother Linda Rachel Dransfield Nee Hopkin is still alive Born 1916 in Hull Myton No MYT/59a/493 Her Sisters and Brothers were
Polly
Gladys
Alfred
Leonard
Alice
Charlie
Regards Roy
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New to this site. just reading family trees and Alfred Ernest Hopkin was my grandfather who lived in Londesborough street Hull at his time of death, he married Rachel Langley (Hopkin) who was my grandma her daughter Linda Rachel Hopkin Now Dransfield is still alive at the age of 97 and lives in Selby.
Roy
Rachel is who l was named after at my Grandfathers request, she would have been my great great grandmother l believe.
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Hi
I am a descendant of a Hull Hopkin. If you look on Family Search.org and look for Charles Richard Hopkin, and one of his daughters was my late mother Gwendoline. One of the tree members has provided quite a lot of information on that tree including a photo or Rachel Langley. I am doing some more research but feel Linda has really got the handle on the tree! Veronica