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Hi There,
I am at the hair-tearing stage looking for the parents of the Right Reverend James Walker M.A. I know a lot about this man except the true identity of his parents. Was he a blacksmith's son or born to illiterate farmers or?
This is a little of what I know of him;
He was born 1793-94
educated at Oxford University, became a Deacon in 1818.
In 1819 he became a Priest and Master of Arts of New College Oxford,
he had been Chaplain of New College Oxford and Rector of Paddington Somerset England (there is no such place).
Married 22nd of December 1824 Eynsham, Oxford, England to Fanny Billingsley
she was the daughter of John and Frances Billingsley and was Christened at Eynsham Oxford,
England 18th August 1799.
They had ten children in 15 years with their births registered in Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire.
Immigrated to Australia 1841 onboard the Arabian.
spent 2 years living in George Town, Tasmania and became interested in Botany
became headmaster of the Kings School in Parramatta 1843 and Minister of Marsfield, All Saints Church, Parramatta 1847. He also became a Botanist of note.
Reverend of St. Lukes, Liverpool NSW Australia
age 59 Died at Liverpool N.S.W. October 27th, 1854. at Moores Theological College in Elizabeth Street, Liverpool.
He was buried in Liverpool Cemetery.
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but...I don't know who his parents were!!! ???
I have explored many options, given him many siblings, looked for his marriage cert, Will, baptism but ...no document I can find will give me a definitive answer on which couple had the dubious honour of being the parents of James.
I am on Ancestry.com.au but I have also Googled him, Found a Grave for him, Troved him, and Family Searched him.
what I have come up with are 2 possibilities and I don't like either.
1. from Oxford Univesity - he was the son of Richard Walker and Elizabeth (nee ?) of Epwell Oxford
2. From other trees on Ancestry, he was the son of Robert Walker and Sarah (nee Wrench) of Weston South, Oxford.
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I also found "the Index of Oxford Diocese Marriage Bonds and Affidavits, 1661-1850" but there is no mention of a Richard and Elizabeth, Robert and Sarah or a James and Fanny for that matter!
is anyone able to point me in another direction or have any information they are able to donate before I am completely bald, please?
Kind Regards
Kim
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educated at Oxford University, became a Deacon in 1818.
In 1819 he became a Priest and Master of Arts of New College Oxford,
he had been Chaplain of New College Oxford and Rector of Paddington Somerset England (there is no such place).
Can I ask where you found that information?
So far, I can only find him being referred to as a "clerk", BUT did you notice on the baptism for his son, Billingsley Edmonds Walker in 1827, that the officiating minister was a J. Walker? Did he baptize all the children? I'm wondering if that is perhaps his father?
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Oh gosh bbart! thank you for replying! ;D
He is listed in many places
I first found him on the The Cable Clerical Index (CCI) Australian Anglican clergy.
WALKER, JAMES
born 1795
died 27 Oct 1854
Liverpool NSW buried cemetery S Luke Liverpool
son of Robert WALKER of Oxford
married 23 Dec 1824 Fanny BILLINGSLEY died 16 Sep 1887 age 88,
daughter of John BILLINGSLEY of Ensham
Education
1812 New College Oxford
1816 BA Oxford
1819 MA 27 Sep
1818 deacon Lincoln
19 Dec 1819 priest Oxford
Positions
1813 chorister Magdalen college oxford
1813-‐1818 lay clerk Magdalen
1818-‐1823 chaplain Magdalen college Oxford
n d Charlton Kings diocese Gloucester
21 Sep 1826 curate Withington co Somerset diocese Bath&Wells
04 Jan 1833-‐1841 incumbent Raddington co Somerset
10 Mar 1841 sailed ARABIAN for Australia, supported SPG (Society for the Propagation of the Gospel) colonial office chaplain to Van Diemens Land
22 Sep 1841exhibited letters testimonial (31Dec1840) from Gloucester&Bristol to Australia
1841-‐1842 incumbent GeorgeTown Tasmania
01Apr1843-‐1848took oaths, minister Marsfield NSW to reside at The Kings School diocese Australia
1843-‐1847 head master The Kings SchoolParramatta
01 Jan 1848-‐1852 incumbent S Luke Liverpool diocese Sydney
Other botanist
memorial S Luke Liverpool NSW
I then found some notes written by a descendant who begins a long Bio with this paragraph;
The son of Richard and Elizabeth Walker of Epwell, Oxford, educated at Oxford University James Walker, became a Deacon in 1818. In 1819 he became a Priest and Master of Arts of New College Oxford, he had been Chaplain of New College Oxford and Rector of Paddington Somerset England.
Married 22nd of December 1824 Eynsham, Oxford, England to Fanny Billingsley she was the daughter of John and Frances Billingsley and was Christened at Eynsham Oxford, England 18th August 1799.
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I think he did baptise some of his children. they were all born in Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire. At least one child was baptised by Fanny's father, John Billingsley there.
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Re: The baptism for daughter Fanny Hannah Waldo Walker in 1825.
All the other baptism on her page, and many pages before and after are by Rob Williams.
The exception is for Fanny, who's father is shown as a clerk, but in the column for who performed the baptism, it says "entered by J. Walker, baptised by Revnd. J. Walker". So is Fanny's father, the clerk to that church, and the baptism was done by HIS father?
In 1840, Phillip Billingsley Walker is being baptized (father James was again a clerk), by J. Walker, Rector of Raddington instead of the Edward Walmesley doing all the other baptisms on the surrounding pages. I can't see him putting occupation as clerk if he is the same person doing the baptism as a Rector?
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Sorry, I posted what I had written before reading your update!
The way he looks like a separate person of the J. Walker doing the baptisms is bothering me.
Do you have the names of all the children? I think we need to look at each baptism to see who officiated in the hopes of a clue!
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This is a summary of all of James' and Fanny's children
1. Fanny Hannah Waldo Walker 1825?
assum. died in infancy
2. Billingsley Edmonds Walker D.A.C.G 18271852.
Deputy Assistant Commissary General - West Indies. died age 25
3. James Charles Walker 18291896
stock and station agent
4. Samuel Billingsley Walker 18311916.
gold mine, Croydon QLD
5. Robert Cooper WALKER 18331897.
Sydney Municipal Library principal librarian
6. Fanny Elizabeth Walker 18341879.
never married
7. Llyssye Walker Morris Cooper18351920.
married twice; m.1 age 68 m.2 age 76
8. Frederick Walker 18371864
d. age 26 typhoid
9. Col. Philip Billingsley Walker V.D 18401900
Chief Electrical Engineer Telegraph Department
8. Richard Cornelius Critchett Walker CMG Esq 18411903
Principal Under Secretary NSW
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Going back to Phillip's baptism again.... it is clearly written as "Raddington" (which I think your notes have as Paddington). Looking at google maps, it is quite a distance to be living in Charlton Kings and working in Raddington (unless there is another Raddington).
Thanks for the posting all the names; I shall troll the newspapers for clues and will let you know if I find anything! (Due to time zone differences, it won't be for a bit yet! It's late here!)
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I am so grateful,
While you were sleeping I also found that I lied. I am so sorry. I have come undone finding baptisms for 7. Llyssye Walker 18351920 so it must have been in Somerset somewhere.
I just put the Raddington thing together. James moved from Charlton Kings to;
21 Sep 1826 curate Withington co Somerset diocese Bath&Wells
04 Jan 1833-‐1841 incumbent Raddington co Somerset
the next son 8. Frederick was baptised by his grandfather again JRF Billingsley who was Curate in Bourton-on-the-Water and Clapton. but...
Child no. 9. Philip Billingsley was baptised back at Charlton Kings by his father J. Walker Rector of Raddington.
The last child was born at sea.
Thank you so much
KIm
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Not sleeping yet! I got caught up chasing a Rev. Richard Walker around the newspapers. In 1840 he was the
Chaplain of New College Oxford. I can't tell whether it is just because Walker was a common name in the area, or whether it was a relative. It jumped out though, as James was in the position years earlier.
This sounds like a highly "successful" family though, so somewhere there will be a clue! Don't exclude Wales and Scotland in the hunt!
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other thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=816942.msg6785760
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Is this him in Oxford Alumni database on Ancestry? If so,his father is "...Robert of St Michael's,Oxford(city),pleb.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o62/
Regards
Roger
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It might be worth contacting the archivists at the Oxford colleges. Sometimes they hold useful information - sometimes not, of course. As Oxford is a collegiate university, the university archives are less fruitful sources than the colleges.
There was mention in this thread of him being described as a clerk - I would read that as "clerk in holy orders" in other words clergyman.
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Is this him in Oxford Alumni database on Ancestry? If so,his father is "...Robert of St Michael's,Oxford(city),pleb.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o62/
Regards
Roger
If this is him it would seem to endorse that he was the James b.17/8/1795, bp.16/9/1795 St. Michael, Oxford, son of Robert and Sarah.
James himself had a son Robert Cooper Walker born 1833 - Robert and Sarah had a son George Edward Cooper Walker, born 26/9/1805, bp.27/10/1805 St. Michael, Oxford.
So was Cooper a family name further back? (Also, Robert and Sarah's eldest son Robert Francis was also a clergyman.)
Annette
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George Edward Cooper Walker b.1805 was also a Rector.
I wonder if father Robert may have been too - can't seem to easily spot Robert and Sarah after 1805. Seems that they might have moved from Oxford as can't find burials for them there.
Annette
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Critchett WALKER, Principal Under-Secretary.
I think you may find that Critchett (formally Robert Cornelius Critchett) was born at sea, near the Cape of Good Hope on 28 June 1841, and was educated in Sydney NSW at St James Grammar School under Archdeacon DREWITT. When Critchett was 15 years old, he began his training as a civil servant, with his appointment as a clerk of the Legislative Assembly (lower house in NSW Parliament). Here is a biographical paragraph or two on Critchett.
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/walker-richard-cornelius-critchett-4787
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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/130993159 One of many Obituaries, this one, from the Richmond River Express of 19 June 1903, includes family history information.
JM
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Sorry, I posted what I had written before reading your update!
The way he looks like a separate person of the J. Walker doing the baptisms is bothering me.
Do you have the names of all the children? I think we need to look at each baptism to see who officiated in the hopes of a clue!
no, I think you will find it is the Rev'd James WALKER who conducted the baptism. I think this for several reasons, including that it is not unusual for the clergy to conduct the ceremony baptising their own children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews - afterall their children are also children of the parish...
JM
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I wonder if father Robert may have been too - can't seem to easily spot Robert and Sarah after 1805. Seems that they might have moved from Oxford as can't find burials for them there.
Possible death of Sarah...
Burial:
name: Sarah Walker
buried: 28 Nov 1828; St Cross (Holywell), Oxford
age: 65 [born c1763]
abode: Holywell
Oxford Journal
22 November 1828
On Wednesday last died, aged 65, after a most painful illness, which she bore with patience and humility, Sarah, wife of Mr Robert Walker, of Holywell, in this city.
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Possible death of Elizabeth Walker, dau. of Robert and Sarah...
Burial:
name: Elizabeth Walker
buried: 01 Oct 1825; St Cross (Holywell), Oxford
age: 23 [born c1803]
abode: Holywell
Oxford University and City Herald
01 October 1825
Oxford
Saturday, Oct 1
On Wednesday last died, Elizabeth Walker, the youngest daughter of Mr Robert Walker, of Holywell, in this city, in the 23rd year of her age. The circumstances of her death were peculiarly affecting, as she was to have been yesterday united in marriage, had her life been spared, to one by whom she was tenderly beloved.
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Coming back to James Walker, there's a few newspaper items which seem to back up the info Kim has (or may be the original sources of the info):
Oxford University and City Herald
08 Jun 1816
Oxford
University Intelligence
Saturday, June 8
In the Second Class of Litera Humaniores
Walker, James, New college
Oxford University and City Herald
08 May 1819
Masters of Arts
Rev James Walker, Chaplain of New College
Oxford Journal
24 Dec 1819
Oxford
Friday, Dec 24
On Sunday last the Lord Bishop of this diocese held a General Ordination in the Chapel of All Souls' College, when the following persons were ordained:
Priests
James Walker, M.A., Chaplain of New College
Oxford Journal
24 Dec 1824
Oxford
Friday, 24
On Wednesday last was married, at Ensham, the Rev. James Walker, M.A. of New College, to Fanny, eldest daughter of the late John Billingsley, Esq. of the former place.
Oxford University and City Herald
03 Jun 1837
Just published, price 1s
The articles of the Church of England, with Scripture Proofs and a Short Commentary.
By the Rev James Walker, M.A. of New College.
Third Edition, improved.
Oxford, J. H. Parker; and Whittaker and Co London.
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New South Wales, Australia
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12955373 24 May 1854, Sydney Morning Herald
At Great Chaddow, Essex, 31st January last, aged 66, the Rev.R. F. Walker, M.A, for more than thirty years incumbent of Purleigh, in that county, and brother of the Rev. James Walker, M.A., of Liverpool, in this colony.
JM
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NSW Australia 1854 Some newspaper cuttings that may be of interest...
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60199286 Empire 28 Oct 1854
Death .... At Liverpool, on Friday, the 27th instant, the Rev. James Walker, M.A., incumbent of Saint Luke's.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12960668 Sydney Morning herald 31 Oct 1854
DEATH.
On the 27th instant, at the Parsonage, Liverpool, the Rev. James Walker, M.A., aged 60 years.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/30940041 Sydney Morning Herald 24 April 1854
ST. LUKE'S, LIVERPOOL.-The parishioners of St. Luke's, Liverpool, have presented their minister, the Rev. James Walker, M.A., with a purse containing 82 sovereigns, as an Easter offering.
JM
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Coming back to the children of Robert and Sarah (possible parents of James), daughter Jane...
Marriage:
married: 29 Jun 1829; St Cross (Holywell); lic
groom: John Scott; of Stockton, Salop; bach
bride: Jane Walker; otp
witnesses: Richard Walker, Frances? Walker
Possible GRO BMD references:
1837 Q4 Birth: Lucy Mary Scott (mmn: Walker); Lambeth; 04; 192
1839 Q2 Birth: Rhoda Scott (mmn: Walker); Atcham; 18; 3
1840 Q4 Birth: Duncan Mcpherson Scott (mmn: Walker); Richmond Surrey; 04; 344
1841 census: Richmond, Surrey
Jane with several children
Ref HO107; Piece 1075; Book 11; Folio 33; Page 17
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQKJ-FLK
1851 census: St Clement, Headington
Jane, widowed, with several children
Ref HO107; Piece 1727; Folio 307; Page 1
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGX9-ZXB
1861 census: Reading, Berkshire
Jane with 2 children
Ref RG09; Piece 746; Folio 25; Page 9
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7D4-TFG
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At Great Chaddow, Essex, 31st January last, aged 66, the Rev.R. F. Walker, M.A, for more than thirty years incumbent of Purleigh, in that county, and brother of the Rev. James Walker, M.A., of Liverpool, in this colony.
There's quite a lengthy bio for Rev. Robert Francis Walker.
Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-22 (available on Ancestry)
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Is this him in Oxford Alumni database on Ancestry? If so,his father is "...Robert of St Michael's,Oxford(city),pleb.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o62/
I think that fits! And if so, there are a couple of sibling possibilites in that list too!
Richard Walker, 5s Robert of st michaels, oxford, pleb. NEW Coll., matric, 15 Dec., 1826, aged 22;
clerk 1826-32, BA 1830, MA 1837, chaplain 1832-1841, perp. curate Seathwaite, Broughton-In-Furness, 1861, until his death 11 March, 1875, father of Sydney R. M.
Robert Francis Walker, s. Robert, of Oxford (city), pleb. NEW COLL, matric 2 Dec 1806, aged 17; BA 1811, MA 1813, chaplain 1812-1815, chorister Magdalen College 1800-6, clerk 1806-12, curate of Purleigh, near Malden, died 31 Jan, 1854, father Walter N. See Bloxam, i. 207
I see Majm has found an article showing that Robert FW is indeed a brother, which makes proof for yet another brother: Rev. George E. C. Walker, uncle to the bride, performed the marriage of Grace, only daughter of the late Rev. Robert F W Walker, etc etc (article on her marriage in 1861). Rev. George Edwards Cooper Walker is also in the Oxford list.
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At Great Chaddow, Essex, 31st January last, aged 66, the Rev.R. F. Walker, M.A, for more than thirty years incumbent of Purleigh, in that county, and brother of the Rev. James Walker, M.A., of Liverpool, in this colony.
There's quite a lengthy bio for Rev. Robert Francis Walker.
Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-22 (available on Ancestry)
Right, and what information does it give you about his parents? Afterall, our OP's topic heading is seeking information about the parents... :)
JM
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Jacksons Oxford Journal, Feb 4, 1854,
CLERGYMEN DECEASED
Jan. 31 at Great Haddow, Essex, aged 63, the Rev. Robert Francis Walker, M.A., formerly a Chaplain of New College and late Curate of Purleigh, Maldon, Essex; a man of practical piety, a sound divine, and an elegant and thoroughly accomplished scholar.
ADD 'Great Haddow' likely to be 'Great Baddow'. :)
JM
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At Great Chaddow, Essex, 31st January last, aged 66, the Rev.R. F. Walker, M.A, for more than thirty years incumbent of Purleigh, in that county, and brother of the Rev. James Walker, M.A., of Liverpool, in this colony.
There's quite a lengthy bio for Rev. Robert Francis Walker.
Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-22 (available on Ancestry)
Right, and what information does it give you about his parents? Afterall, our OP's topic heading is seeking information about the parents... :)
JM
Walker, Robert Francis (1789-1854), divine and author, son of Robert Walker of Oxford, born there on 15 Jan 1789....
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Thanks cuffie, that's a great help.
My transcription from image of a baptism recorded in a parish register for St Michael, Oxford, 1789
February 9
Robert Francis Son of Robert & Sarah Walker, Born Jany 15.
JM
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Possible/Probable marriage
St Peter le Bailey, Oxford
No. 44
Robert WALKER and Sarah WRENCH of this parish were married in this church by banns this twenty fifth day of February in the year One Thousand Seven Hundred and eight eight by me Thomas Hartland HOWLE, Curate.
Robert Walker signed
Sarah Wrench made her mark
Witnesses were James PAXTON (signed) and Hannah Paxton (signed).
JM
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If James' brother Richard is the same one mentioned in an article, it would help seal the Wrench in the works ::) :
Oxford Journal 17 November 1877
Death Notice.
Nov 6, at Ventnor, Forester Wrench Walker, son of the late Rev. Richard Walker, Seathwaite, Lancashire
Forester is also in the Oxford Alumni book previously discussed.
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If James' brother Richard is the same one mentioned in an article, it would help seal the Wrench in the works ::) :
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those genealogy dots are joining up quite well...
JM
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Regarding post #29, the verdict, based on the Oxford Alumni book and obit for Richard, is, yes, that is James brother who gave son Forester the middle name of Wrench, and died at Seathforthe.
So now I want to know how father Robert, who couldn't sign his name on his marriage, put all those sons through college......
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He signed !
Possible/Probable marriage
St Peter le Bailey, Oxford
No. 44
Robert WALKER and Sarah WRENCH of this parish were married in this church by banns this twenty fifth day of February in the year One Thousand Seven Hundred and eight eight by me Thomas Hartland HOWLE, Curate.
Robert Walker signed
Sarah Wrench made her mark
Witnesses were James PAXTON (signed) and Hannah Paxton (signed).
JM
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My transcription of an image of a parish register for a baptism at St Michael, Oxford in 1795
Septr 16 James, Son of Robert & Sarah Walker born Augt 17.
JM
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He signed !
So he did! I saw the "x mark" right under his name, but now I see that was for Sarah.
This is why I should get glasses. ::)
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Is this him in Oxford Alumni database on Ancestry? If so,his father is "...Robert of St Michael's,Oxford(city),pleb.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o62/
Regards
Roger
Roger
This may well be him! thank you!
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Is this him in Oxford Alumni database on Ancestry? If so,his father is "...Robert of St Michael's,Oxford(city),pleb.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o62/
Regards
Roger
If this is him it would seem to endorse that he was the James b.17/8/1795, bp.16/9/1795 St. Michael, Oxford, son of Robert and Sarah.
James himself had a son Robert Cooper Walker born 1833 - Robert and Sarah had a son George Edward Cooper Walker, born 26/9/1805, bp.27/10/1805 St. Michael, Oxford.
So was Cooper a family name further back? (Also, Robert and Sarah's eldest son Robert Francis was also a clergyman.)
Annette
Thank you, Annette,
This is all starting to make more sense now.
I wish I could find not only the Cooper relative but also Sarah's maiden name. It has been suggested that it was "Wrench", I was hoping it would be Sarah "Cooper". I found the marriage of a Robert Walker to Sarah Wrench on 25 Feb 1788 which would fit with the eldest son's, Robert Francis Walker, birth on 15th Jan 1789 and have attached an image of that marriage record.
How do I verify that this is the right couple?
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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226367432 Government Gazette Saturday 13 June 1903, Issue No. 305 (EXTRAORDINARY) PAGE 4413.
Chief Secretary's Office,
Sydney, 13th June 1903
His Excellency the Governor, with feelings of regret, announces to the public the decease, on the 13th instant of
RICHARD CORNELIUS CRITCHETT WALKER, Esquire, C.N.G.,
who for forty-five years has been in the Public Service and for twenty-four years filles the Office of Principal Under Secretary of this State with great ability.
By his death the State has lost a distinguished Public Servant; and, personally, I have lost a friend whose advice and assistance has been of great service to me.
By his Excellency's Command,
JOHN SEE.
JM notes this extraordinary issue was of just the one page, and the announcement was bordered with the deep mourning black border. The NSW Governor at the time was Admiral Sir Harry RAWSON.
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Is this him in Oxford Alumni database on Ancestry? If so,his father is "...Robert of St Michael's,Oxford(city),pleb.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o62/
Regards
Roger
If this is him it would seem to endorse that he was the James b.17/8/1795, bp.16/9/1795 St. Michael, Oxford, son of Robert and Sarah.
James himself had a son Robert Cooper Walker born 1833 - Robert and Sarah had a son George Edward Cooper Walker, born 26/9/1805, bp.27/10/1805 St. Michael, Oxford.
So was Cooper a family name further back? (Also, Robert and Sarah's eldest son Robert Francis was also a clergyman.)
Annette
Thank you, Annette,
This is all starting to make more sense now.
I wish I could find not only the Cooper relative but also Sarah's maiden name. It has been suggested that it was "Wrench", I was hoping it would be Sarah "Cooper". I found the marriage of a Robert Walker to Sarah Wrench on 25 Feb 1788 which would fit with the eldest son's, Robert Francis Walker, birth on 15th Jan 1789 and have attached an image of that marriage record.
How do I verify that this is the right couple?
I typed up a transcription of the WALKER=WRENCH marriage earlier. The dots are not yet fully joined up as the marriage was not at St Michael's where James baptism was recorded, but I do think you could keep it close to your current research as the most likely, as bbart has very logically commented that Rev R F Walker uses 'Wrench' for one of the names for one of his sons...
JM
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Critchett WALKER, Principal Under-Secretary.
I think you may find that Critchett (formally Robert Cornelius Critchett) was born at sea, near the Cape of Good Hope on 28 June 1841, and was educated in Sydney NSW at St James Grammar School under Archdeacon DREWITT. When Critchett was 15 years old, he began his training as a civil servant, with his appointment as a clerk of the Legislative Assembly (lower house in NSW Parliament). Here is a biographical paragraph or two on Critchett.
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/walker-richard-cornelius-critchett-4787
ADD
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/130993159 One of many Obituaries, this one, from the Richmond River Express of 19 June 1903, includes family history information.
JM
Yes, that's James' youngest son. You will also find him in the Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 6. His children were famous but his parents and grandparents were very elusive. ;D
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Critchett WALKER, Principal Under-Secretary.
I think you may find that Critchett (formally Robert Cornelius Critchett) was born at sea, near the Cape of Good Hope on 28 June 1841, and was educated in Sydney NSW at St James Grammar School under Archdeacon DREWITT. When Critchett was 15 years old, he began his training as a civil servant, with his appointment as a clerk of the Legislative Assembly (lower house in NSW Parliament). Here is a biographical paragraph or two on Critchett.
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/walker-richard-cornelius-critchett-4787
ADD
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/130993159 One of many Obituaries, this one, from the Richmond River Express of 19 June 1903, includes family history information.
JM
Yes, that's James' youngest son. You will also find him in the Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 6. His children were famous but his parents and grandparents were very elusive. ;D
I have a great deal of information about Critchett's father; Rev James was a significant person in NSW during the era AFTER convictism ceased 1840 and BEFORE responsible government was established in 1856. You mention that I will find him ( add, as in Critchett :) ) in the ADB .... yes of course ... afterall I posted the live link to the ADB that you are quoting... ::)
JM
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Possible death of Elizabeth Walker, dau. of Robert and Sarah...
Burial:
name: Elizabeth Walker
buried: 01 Oct 1825; St Cross (Holywell), Oxford
age: 23 [born c1803]
abode: Holywell
Oxford University and City Herald
01 October 1825
Oxford
Saturday, Oct 1
On Wednesday last died, Elizabeth Walker, the youngest daughter of Mr Robert Walker, of Holywell, in this city, in the 23rd year of her age. The circumstances of her death were peculiarly affecting, as she was to have been yesterday united in marriage, had her life been spared, to one by whom she was tenderly beloved.
This sounds really sad! :'(
I have been busily collecting possible siblings for James and if this was his sister she had a twin, Richard born 10th April 1803
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If James' brother Richard is the same one mentioned in an article, it would help seal the Wrench in the works ::) :
Oxford Journal 17 November 1877
Death Notice.
Nov 6, at Ventnor, Forester Wrench Walker, son of the late Rev. Richard Walker, Seathwaite, Lancashire
Forester is also in the Oxford Alumni book previously discussed.
Oh Gosh
I am getting confused.
so spelling this out for a bit of a nonce like me :-\...
This is a death notice for James' nephew Forester? He is the presumed son of James' brother Richard who may also have also a Rev. do we know that this Richard is James' brother?
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Regarding post #29, the verdict, based on the Oxford Alumni book and obit for Richard, is, yes, that is James brother who gave son Forester the middle name of Wrench, and died at Seathforthe.
So now I want to know how father Robert, who couldn't sign his name on his marriage, put all those sons through college......
Me too! I think he did sign his name but Sarah certainly didn't.
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You are all amazing!
Thank you so much!
JM - I am sorry I missed your link to the Aust. Dictionary. and would be very interested to find out more of the information you have on James.
I will pencil in Sarah Wrench as James' mother and a list of possible siblings I have for him, using alll the incredible information you have all found for me.
I have a tentative list - not yet verified and if someone has already posted this, I am having trouble keeping up with you all. I can't thank you enough.
1. Robert Francis Walker Rev 17891854
2. William Walker 1792
3. Sarah Ann Walker 1793
4. James Walker Revd. 17951854
5. John Walker 1797
6. Jane Walker 1799
7. Frances Walker 1800
8. Richard Walker Rev. 1803
9. Elizabeth Walker 18031825
10. emma Walker 18041877
11. George Edwards Cooper Walker Rev 18051879
Have a great night and when I find the Cooper link we can all have a mass cheers!
Best and Warmest Regards
Kim
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Possible death of Robert...
I couldn't find this burial in Ancestry's index but browsing the register it's there. The Oxfordshire FHS transcripts do have the entry, with the name Robert Walker. A corresponding Will would have been good but I haven't had any joy finding one, maybe someone else can take a look.
Burial:
name: Robert Walker
buried: 26 Mar 1833; St Cross (Holywell), Oxford
age: 77 [born c1755]
abode: St Mary, Magdalen Parish
Oxford Journal
23 March 1833
Died, on Wednesday evening last, at his house in Broad-street, Mr Robert Walker, after a short and severe illness, at the advanced age of 77 years. This venerable man filled for upwards of 45 years the situation of butler at Trinity college, and discharged the duties of it till the last day but one of his life - a rare example of vigilance, fidelity and integrity. His closing hours were peculiarly impressive: the same calm self possession and affectionate feeling which won the respect of all who knew him, and which endeared him to his friends, shone in his dying hours - meekly and humbly committing his approaching end. - "Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace."
OS Map: Broad Street, Oxford
https://maps.nls.uk/view/106017294#zoom=4&lat=3895&lon=7146&layers=BT
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You are all amazing!
Thank you so much!
JM - I am sorry I missed your link to the Aust. Dictionary. and would be very interested to find out more of the information you have on James.
I will pencil in Sarah Wrench as James' mother and a list of possible siblings I have for him, using alll the incredible information you have all found for me.
I have a tentative list - not yet verified and if someone has already posted this, I am having trouble keeping up with you all. I can't thank you enough.
1. Robert Francis Walker Rev 17891854
2. William Walker 1792
3. Sarah Ann Walker 1793
4. James Walker Revd. 17951854
5. John Walker 1797
6. Jane Walker 1799
7. Frances Walker 1800
8. Richard Walker Rev. 1803
9. Elizabeth Walker 18031825
10. emma Walker 18041877
11. George Edwards Cooper Walker Rev 18051879
Have a great night and when I find the Cooper link we can all have a mass cheers!
Best and Warmest Regards
Kim
I think you can eliminate the Emma supposedly born 1804 and died 1877. The only time she is shown is on one online tree, listed as Emma Edwards Cooper Walker - however, there is no baptism for her, there are no entries for such a person on census, she is stated to have been buried at Farleigh 12/9/1877, having died 5/9/1877. However, there is no death/burial for any Emma (Walker or otherwise) in 1877 Farleigh, and the only 2 buried there are George Edwards Cooper Walker, buried 12/9/1979 and his wife Sophia Amelia buried the previous year. The tree gives just one link and that is to her burial BUT this just takes you to that for her brother. Think the submitter of the tree has made a huge mistake and that no such Emma existed.
Annette
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Possible death of Robert...
I couldn't find this burial in Ancestry's index but browsing the register it's there. The Oxfordshire FHS transcripts do have the entry, with the name Robert Walker. A corresponding Will would have been good but I haven't had any joy finding one, maybe someone else can take a look.
Burial:
name: Robert Walker
buried: 26 Mar 1833; St Cross (Holywell), Oxford
age: 77 [born c1755]
abode: St Mary, Magdalen Parish
Oxford Journal
23 March 1833
Died, on Wednesday evening last, at his house in Broad-street, Mr Robert Walker, after a short and severe illness, at the advanced age of 77 years. This venerable man filled for upwards of 45 years the situation of butler at Trinity college, and discharged the duties of it till the last day but one of his life - a rare example of vigilance, fidelity and integrity. His closing hours were peculiarly impressive: the same calm self possession and affectionate feeling which won the respect of all who knew him, and which endeared him to his friends, shone in his dying hours - meekly and humbly committing his approaching end. - "Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace."
OS Map: Broad Street, Oxford
https://maps.nls.uk/view/106017294#zoom=4&lat=3895&lon=7146&layers=BT
Oh Cuffie
This is gold. Thank you ;D
I just woke up to find this information and whilst still in slippers and coffee on the brew, you have made my day! His occupation and a MAP! I am so excited. ;D
As you have probably suspected I am stuck in front of my computer in that down under hemisphere and wish I had the resources you all have. I would be lost for days, weeks and years in the British Newspaper archives. Can anyone subscribe or do I need to be certified? (not certifiable, you know what I mean ::))
Just fabulous
Thanks again
Kim
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You are all amazing!
Thank you so much!
JM - I am sorry I missed your link to the Aust. Dictionary. and would be very interested to find out more of the information you have on James.
I will pencil in Sarah Wrench as James' mother and a list of possible siblings I have for him, using alll the incredible information you have all found for me.
I have a tentative list - not yet verified and if someone has already posted this, I am having trouble keeping up with you all. I can't thank you enough.
1. Robert Francis Walker Rev 17891854
2. William Walker 1792
3. Sarah Ann Walker 1793
4. James Walker Revd. 17951854
5. John Walker 1797
6. Jane Walker 1799
7. Frances Walker 1800
8. Richard Walker Rev. 1803
9. Elizabeth Walker 18031825
10. emma Walker 18041877
11. George Edwards Cooper Walker Rev 18051879
Have a great night and when I find the Cooper link we can all have a mass cheers!
Best and Warmest Regards
Kim
I think you can eliminate the Emma supposedly born 1804 and died 1877. The only time she is shown is on one online tree, listed as Emma Edwards Cooper Walker - however, there is no baptism for her, there are no entries for such a person on census, she is stated to have been buried at Farleigh 12/9/1877, having died 5/9/1877. However, there is no death/burial for any Emma (Walker or otherwise) in 1877 Farleigh, and the only 2 buried there are George Edwards Cooper Walker, buried 12/9/1979 and his wife Sophia Amelia buried the previous year. The tree gives just one link and that is to her burial BUT this just takes you to that for her brother. Think the submitter of the tree has made a huge mistake and that no such Emma existed.
Annette
You are a star!
I thought as much. Thank you!
I use a little code for myself i.e. lower case names, when a person is in doubt.
This would have caused me a fair amount of grief searching for her.
Thank you
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As far as I know anyone can subscribe to BNA. The BNA is owned by FindMyPast and the newspapers can also be accessed via FindMyPast, but only for certain subscriptions. You might want to check with your local library as they may offer access.
The newspapers are a fantastic resource. It can take a bit of digging to find relevant people but they often hold info that isn't available elsewhere.
There's a lot more articles on this Walker family that I haven't posted, to avoid overloading the thread, but I can post a list of articles (or send via PM if you'd prefer). But you're probably best off getting access to BNA yourself as there's likely many more articles to be found.
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If our OP is based in Australia, then there's the wonderful e-resources available via a free standard library card from the National Library of Australia. To be eligible for a standard library card you must live in Australia and supply an Australian residential address. Among the benefits is free access to the UK digitised newspapers including the 'Gale' sets...
The National Library provides access to all 5 parts of the collection. .... Part I: 1800-1900. Part II: 1800-1900. Part III: 1741-1950. Part IV: 1732-1950. Part V: 1746-1950.
https://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/item/4314
http://www.nla.gov.au/getalibrarycard/
https://www.nla.gov.au/collections
ADD, yes, this is freely available to Australians, all they need do is apply for a standard library card from the National Library of Australia. Many local public libraries throughout Australia will provide similar support. I am in New South Wales, Australia and I have a NLA card and a NSW State Library card, and .... I also have my local government authority's public library card. All give me e-access from the armchair at home... :D all at no charge.
JM
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For some reason I stopped getting notifications for this thread, so thinking it had gone quiet I deleted all my notes... :'(
But a few things I did want to mention:
In reply 41 you say I have been busily collecting possible siblings for James and if this was his sister she had a twin, Richard born 10th April 1803
Their baptism does state clearly that they were twins.
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There is a google book (https://books.google.ca/books?id=cOleAAAAcAAJ&pg=PP9&lpg=PP9&dq=REV.+ROBERT+FRANCIS+WALKER&source=bl&ots=yxci3JJFAW&sig=ACfU3U35wfr18lrmyTvyBliZEIyTTNGIyg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiol5jBpvfjAhXLi54KHXQ_BcwQ6AEwEXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=REV.%20ROBERT%20FRANCIS%20WALKER&f=false) of the memoirs of Rev RF Walker, but the only mention of his parents was that they were highly respected and pious. RF was sent off at age 11 for schooling, and it sounds like he never looked back. I may have missed some family mention, but if you read it, you will understand why you start skimming it faster and faster. (I felt like I was sitting in church for a ten hour sermon on a hard bench.)
Anyways, I had earlier seen the possible death of the Robert Walker noted in Reply 45 by Cuffie, but had dismissed it as there was no mention of his family, especially as they seemed to be successful. After reading the memoirs though, if all the boys were sent off at such a young age, perhaps the family was just not close-knit, although RF did give one of his children the middle name of Wrench.
So, if this is the right Robert, there is mention of a death for a Sarah Walker, who apparently died a horrible and painful death from illness, wife of Robert Walker of Holywell, age 65, in the Oxford Journal 22 November 1828.
Wrench seems to be interchangeable with Rench. A possible baptism is:
Name: Sarah Rench
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Aug 1762
Baptism Place: Baldon Marsh, Oxfordshire, England
Father: Jo Rench
Mother: Eliz Rench
She has two other siblings scattered on the entries on the same page, indicating father was "John".
As for the Coopers, JF Walker had an Edward Cooper baptize at least one of his children, and in the probate for George Edwards Cooper Walker, one of the executors was a John Cooper.
I suggest you gather all the names of Robert and Sarah's grandchildren, so you have a list of all the old surnames buried as middle names, as sooner or later, it will start to fall in place. (And don't miss Edwards! It isn't George Edward C. Walker, it is George Edwards Walker).
And reread this thread over and over; you are overwhelmed with all the new info, and might be missing important things! Take good notes!
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I disagree with bbart, ::) I am sorry to disagree, but it is not a ten hour sermon, it is much longer than that ! and that hard bench that bbart mentions --- well it is so high that my feet don't touch the floor, and that draught coming through from all sides is .... it is too cold. And I am stuck on it and cannot climb down ... h e l p ... :)
Oh, and Geo E C WALKER can be a useful way to search in UK records... :D Oh, and his death in Farleigh, England is also announced in NSW newspapers ... Trove is an excellent resource.
JM
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Well, Majm, your discomfort was worth it (for me!) My notifications are working again!!
Oh, and Geo E C WALKER can be a useful way to search in UK records... :D Oh, and his death in Farleigh, England is also announced in NSW newspapers ... Trove is an excellent resource.
JM
Going from memory, I think the notifications were announced in the NSW newspapers was because one of his (Geo E C) had at least one son there; or was it his brother Robert F's son.... anyways, James had at least one nephew that moved to NSW.
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Hi All
I wanted to reply and let you know that I am now extraordinarily busy "taking good notes" (thank you bbart for the tip) and exploring the fab information you have provided for me.
I am so grateful and appreciative of all you have done for me so far (including the numb bums! sorry 'bout that! cheers for the link to the book. I will save that up for a spesh occasion ;D).
If its any consolation to you I am now wading through the 9 sons and 1 daughter of the very Reverend RF Walker, who married twice - bearing in mind I have added them and deleted before because;
1. Before I posted here, I had spent hours/days searching for James' father. I came across RF Walker hoping he was James' brother and thought that surely there would be a mention his father. It's an insane method I suppose but your assistance has proved that it can be valid although time-consuming.
2. I then came across a long bio for Rev. James written by a descendant who thoroughly believes that his grandparents were Richard and Elizabeth Walker from Epwell, Oxford so, like a dill, I deleted all my hard work!
3. I then realised how wrong I was and readded them, but as I could see no Aust. connection and didn't want to clog up my tree, I deleted them again.
4. Now I see the error of my lazy ways and have reinstated them... again. What a nonce! ::) (go on laugh if you will)
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I have also been systematically working through Robert's children as per the list I posted earlier (deleting said Emma) and have filled in some blanks, but - of - course now have more questions;
1. Robert Francis Walker Rev (divine and author) 17891854 - still in the works but comfy with what I have on him so far
2. William Walker 1792? I can find no death or marriage for William nor can I find him in the Oxford Alumni. Is it safe to presume he perhaps died as an infant?
3. Sarah Ann Walker 1793? same question as for William above
4. James Walker Revd. M.A. (head Kings School Parramatta, incumbent Liverpool) 17951854 - James is the catalyst for this interesting journey and still in the works.
5. John Walker Revd. (chaplain New Coll.) 17971834. He died at the very young age of 36; almost a year to the day after his father. I have not found a marriage for him, but as he was a chorister along with his brothers at age 7 and became a chaplain New College at age 26, perhaps he didn't meet too many women? or am I wrong and he did find love?
6. Jane Walker 1799? - I can find no death or marriage for Jane. Is it safe to presume she perhaps died as an infant?
7. Frances Walker 18001836 - married a Mr. Steele as per her father Robert's gravestone inscription record...
so Sorry I can't find the post where it was provided (maybe I found it all by myself! surely not) but here is the text...
"in the ancient Churchyard: (not Hollywell Cemetery) 47. Upright, tall, slightly arched top, reddish stone. Mr Robert Walker of this parish
33...........Sarah, his wife
1828 Their son, The Rev. John Walker of Magdalen College, d. March 20 1834. Their daus. Frances Steele, d. June 29 1836 and Elizabeth who d. 28 Sep 1825 two days before the date set for her marriage.)"
I have found a Joseph Steele as a possible husband with a child, Robert Francis Steel 1834-1900. I am hoping someone could verify that I am correct with this please.
8. Richard Walker Rev 1803? Having a tad bit of trouble with Richard. The information I have is from the 1861 Census;
Incumbent of Seawaite living in the parsonage.
Married Eliza ? They had 3 children
1. d. Ricarda Grace, b. abt. 1846
2. Forrester Wrench Walker b. abt. 1848 and
3. Edward FS Walker b. abt. 1853
9. Elizabeth Walker died 2 days before wedding 18031825. If this isn't sad enough I can't help but wonder what happened!
10. George Edwards Cooper Walker Rev 18051879 - still a masterpiece in the works.
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I realise there may be some answers already provided that I have missed but I am a bit of a multi-tasker and prone to being distracted by bright shiny things easily, so please forgive me I will find them.
Best Regards
Kim
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That memorial inscription is a great find. Doing a quick search for it it looks like it's from the Balliol Archives. If I'm over that way again I'll try and get you a photo.
Balliol Archives - Burials and Inscriptions in St Cross Church
http://archives.balliol.ox.ac.uk/Archives/stcrossmemorials.asp
I did see a tree on Ancestry (it may be yours) with Frances named as Steele, having died in 1836. I looked into it and couldn't find a connection but given that MI I'll take another look.
As for William (born 1792) and Sarah Ann (born 1793), I didn't have any luck tracing either of them.
As for Jane (born 1799), I posted some details on an earlier reply, #21 (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=816945.msg6786410#msg6786410). She married a Rev John Scott. I didn't have any luck tracing her after 1861.
As for Richard (born 1803, died 1875), he married Eliza Maynard in 1837.
Marriage:
married: 05 Jan 1837; Bicester; lic
groom: Richard Walker; of New College; of St Peter's in the East, Oxford; bach
bride: Eliza Maynard; otp; spin
witnesses: William Grant?, Sarah Elizabeth Maynard
GRO BMD references:
1839 Q1 Birth: Percy Cooper Walker; (mmn: Maynard); Abingdon; 06; 127
1840 Q3 Birth: Herbert Stratton Walker; (mmn: Maynard); Woodstock; 16; 131
1842 Q2 Birth: Hyde Edwards Walker; (mmn: Maynard); Bicester; 16; 34
1844 Q2 Birth: Ricarda Grace Walker; (mmn: Maynard); Bicester; 16; 31 [GRO=Waller, FreeBMD=Walker]
1848 Q1 Birth: Forrester Wrench Walker; (mmn: Maynard); Bicester; 16; 33
1849 Q3 Birth: Edwards Francis Walker; (mmn: Maynard); Bicester; 16; 29
1849 Q3 Death: Francis Edwards Walker; (age 0(born c1849); Bicester; 16; 24
1853 Q1 Birth: Edward Francis Se Walker; (mmn: Maynard); Headington; 03a; 518
1875 Q1 Death: Richard Walker; age 72( born c1803); Ulverston; 08e; 644
Probate:
The Reverend Richard Walker
late of Seathwaite, Lancaster
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=walker&yearOfDeath=1875&page=18#calendar
Census records:
1841 - Kings End, Bicester
Possibly son Percy with grandmother Elizabeth Maynard.
Ref HO107; Piece 885; Book 2; Folio 7; Page 8
1851 - Michaelstone Super Avon, Neath, Glamorganshire
Richard and Eliza with 6 children
Ref HO107; Piece 2462; Folio 324; Page 42
1861 - Seathwaite, Ulverston
Richard and Eliza with 3 children
Ref RG09; Piece 3172; Folio 6; Page 5
1871 - Seathwaite, Ulverston
Richard with daughter Ricarda
Ref RG10; Piece 4246; Folio -; Page 5
Newspaper items:
Banbury Guardian
09 Dec 1847
Bicester
Died
November 25, at the Rev. R. Walker's, Bicester King's End, Sarah Elizabeth, daughter of the late Mr R Maynard, of Weston-on-the-Green, aged 40 years.
Banbury Guardian
20 Sep 1849
Died
On the 18th, at Bicester King's End, Francis Edwards, infant son of the Rev Richard Walker.
Lancaster Gazette
20 Mar 1875
Died
Seathwaite - On the 11th inst, at the Vicarage, the Rev Richard Walker, M.A., formerly of New College, Oxford, for 14 years vicar of the parish.
Oxfordshire Telegraph
28 Nov 1877
Died
November 8, at Angelsea Villas, Ventor, Isle of Wight, aged 29, Mr Forrester Wrench Walker, son of the late Rev. Richard Walker, of Seathwaite, formerly of Bicester.
Soulby's Ulverston Advertiser and General Intelligencer
16 May 1878
Marriages
On the 9th inst, at Seathwaite Church, by the Rev S. R. M. Walker, vicar, and the Rev P. C. Walker, vicar of Borrowdale, brothers of the bride, Frederick William, youngest son of the late William Grant, Esq, Addlestone, Surrey, to Ricarda Grace, only daughter of the late Rev Richard Walker, vicar of Seathwaite.
Shields Daily Gazette
05 May 1879
Death of Rev Percy C Walker, curate of Borrowdale church.
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Just a quick update:
I have been researching Jane Scott nee Walker;
That memorial inscription is a great find. Doing a quick search for it it looks like it's from the Balliol Archives. If I'm over that way again I'll try and get you a photo. Yes please!
I did see a tree on Ancestry (it may be yours - Nup mine is the Stanford Banks Walker Family Tree https://ancstry.me/2TsEYLV) with Frances named as Steele, having died in 1836. ...
As for Jane (born 1799), I posted some details on an earlier reply, #21 (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=816945.msg6786410#msg6786410). She married a Rev John Scott. I didn't have any luck tracing her after 1861.
I found her husband's will and discovered that he was a Chaplain to Bengal for the British East India Co. in Howrah near Calcutta. He left her pregnant with their 8th child to go there in 1840 and died 7 years later. Noice!
I think he had something to do with the Miltary Orphans school which is interesting as I have been searching for Indian connections in the family.
The reason for this is that (Jane's brother) James Walker's son, Robert Cooper Walker of Sydney Library fame had a daughter Edith. Edith married a man much older, Charles Alfred Edgar Banks, who imported tea from India and supplied hospitals and Asylums. I have been trying to place him in India for years.
Possibly too far back for a connection but still...
Thank you for all you have provided. I am over the moon! If I go quiet its not that I am unappreciative it's just that I am in 'history heaven'. ;D
Have a great day night!
Kim
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Good work on the Scotts.
One final thing which may be of interest, which I'd forgotten to post, which may be of use when trying to trace the earlier generations...
Leeds Mercury
21 Dec 1850
Married
On Wednesday, at St George's church, Hanover-square, by the Rev G E C Walker, M.A. (cousin of the bride), rector of East Farleigh, Surrey, Colonel James Perry, of the 31st Regiment of Madras Light Infantry, to Ida Sophia, eldest daughter of Captain J E Parlby, Royal Navy, and granddaughter of the late Major the Hon. Samuel Holland.
Marriage:
married: 18 Dec 1850; St George, Hanover Square; lic
groom: James Perry; fa; bach; Colonel; St James Street
bride: Ida Sophia Parlby; fa; spin; -; Hampstead (Middlesex)
grooms father: James Perry; Esquire
brides father: James Edward Parlby; Captain R.N.
by: G E C? Walker, rector of Farleigh
witnesses: George D Waite, ? Parlby, Henry P?, Agnes W Halyburton?
It looks like Ida married again in 1866.
GRO BMD references:
1850 Q4 Marriage: James Perry & Ida Sophia Parlby; St George Hanover Square; 1; 38
1866 Q3 Marriage: Patrick O'Brien & Ida S Perry; Marylebone; 1a; 1202
1861 census - Marylebone, London
James and Ida
Ref RG09; Piece 77; Folio 153; Page 16
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7GG-GL7
1871 census - Marylebone, London
Patrick and Ida
Ref RG10; Piece 166; Folio 89; Page 52
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRJS-JDC
Ida's likely parents:
Marriage:
married: 14 Feb 1825; St Pancras; lic
groom: James Edward Parlby; otp; bach
bride: Sophia Silvester Holland; of Portsmouth, Southampton; spin
witnesses: ?, ?
Baptism:
name: Ida Sophia Parlby
baptised: 16 May 1832; Boulogne, France
father: -
mother: Sophia Sylvester Parlby