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Title: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Claire Hunter on Thursday 15 August 19 16:35 BST (UK)
Hi

I have very few pictures on my Dads side of the family and I am trying to scrapbook the family history and where they lived.

Does anyone have The Bartons or Roberts in their family . I have Harry ( aka Henry ) Barton who married Mary Louisa Roberts in 1906. Their son was my great grandad Joseph Henry Barton. Harry was a miner and my great grandad was too in later years.
Louisa's Dad , also a Henry was a miner. Both families lived at Chirk green ( 124 and 142 ).

Any info about the families or recommendations for old pics would be much appreciated. Hope this is okay to post.
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 17:29 BST (UK)
The Roberts family are mine, great aunty Polly (Mary Louisa)  married Henry Barton. Her parents were Henry Roberts and Elizabeth Stokes. I'm descended from Joseph (my taid/grandfather) who married Mary Edith Mates.

I have some old photos and an extensive tree of the family, especially of the Stokes and Parish family - Elizabeth's line.


Gadget
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 17:32 BST (UK)
Here's a small photo of Henry and Elizabeth and their children, circa 1903-4.  Polly is sitting next to her father in white.

I've found a larger image:

Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 17:34 BST (UK)
And Elizabeth Roberts (mn Stokes)

Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 17:40 BST (UK)
I should have said Welcome - sorry. I was surprised/pleased to see a relative  ;D

If you make a couple more posts you can PM (personalmessage me) and I we can  exchange info that way.

Gadget
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 17:50 BST (UK)
If I've worked things out correctly, we are 2nd cousin's twice removed - your grandfather and I are 2nd cousins!

Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 18:07 BST (UK)


Henry was born in Llansilin in 1856, son of Robert Roberts (farm labourer/bailiff) and Margaret Ellis. Margaret died suddenly in 1858. Robert was working at a farm in Chirk at the time. He married an Ann Williams  and they  had a daughter, Mary.  The family can be seen in Chirk in 1871 - Evan was henry's full brother, Catherine was Ann's daughter, daughter of a local farmer(Evans)  before she met Robert.
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 18:09 BST (UK)
1871
Halton Cottage,, Chirk
Robert Roberts, 50, Ag Lab, b.Llansilin
Ann, 36, b. Llangollen
Henry, 15, lab in coal mine, b. Llansillin
Evan, 12, -do-   
Catherine, 11, scholar, b. Llangollen
Mary, 8, scholar, b. Chirk

Ann and Catherine were b.Llantysilio rather than Llangollen.

I have all the census details and many BMDs. 

Robert is something of an enigma - his father is given as John on both his marriage certs.
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 18:13 BST (UK)
I remember Etta (Henrietta) the daughter of Henry Barton and Mary Louisa. She married a ?Jones and they lived in the large house opposite the Co-op in Chirk Green. 


(All this from memory as my family files are on another machine!)
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Claire Hunter on Thursday 15 August 19 18:21 BST (UK)
I remember Etta (Henrietta) the daughter of Henry Barton and Mary Louisa. She married a ?Jones and they lived in the large house opposite the Co-op in Chirk Green. 


(All this from memory as my family files are on another machine!)
I will have to look at the family tree and look for her . thanks so much for the photos too. I don't have many of great grandad Barton but I do have one here . it's with his wife Florence nee Woolley .

Thanks for the warm welcome. look forward to being able to share what I know with you. And re the enigma of John...I have exactly the same on another side of the tree and he's a John too.

Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 18:41 BST (UK)
Another thing that I remember - All the females died of cancer of the uterus.
Elizabeth Stokes in 1930, Mary Louisa in 1917, Eva, 2nd daughter in 1938, and Laura, youngest in 1961.
I have a copy of Henry (b. 1856)'s diary for 1900. A cousin,  descendant of Eva, who lives in Eire, copied it for me.


PS - have you had your DNA analysed?
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Claire Hunter on Thursday 15 August 19 20:22 BST (UK)
Nope to the DNA . Have debated about it numerous times but always decided to use the money for something else.
And that's interesting . There is a family study on another medical condition too which I will tell u about.But I'd need to get a certificate out to get the term correct .
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 20:31 BST (UK)
Will get all the info together over the weekend and send it to you.  :)
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Claire Hunter on Thursday 15 August 19 20:43 BST (UK)
Will get all the info together over the weekend and send it to you.  :)

Thanks so much. I have just sent that photo over let me know if it doesn't come through ok.
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 August 19 21:05 BST (UK)
It came through. Thank you  :)

The Roberts/Stokes features seem to  travel well - your grt granddad looks so much like my Dad and other family  :D
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: Slashdog2008 on Saturday 25 July 20 12:49 BST (UK)
Hi all....

Harry Barton was my great grandfather. Dad  to Etta Barton. I’m new to this research and would love some guidance...I’m absolutely delighted to put faces to pictures of family I have found. Which one in the family picture is Mary Louisa please.
Title: Re: Chirk green mining families
Post by: gstanway on Tuesday 13 June 23 21:45 BST (UK)
Ihave two branches of my family from Chirk Green. My Grandfather William Kingston and my Grandmother Elizabeth Negus. They were neighbours in Chirk Green before marriage. Not sure when they moved away to Middleton Terrace across the river by the Trap. My Grandmothers sister Ellen married Billy Meredith the soccer player, and they all moved to Manchester. My Grandmothers brother, Bill Negus, was apparently well noted in The Boer War. I remember visiting him when I was little, in the cottages across from the church In Chirk. Anyone out there have any info on my family. My Grandmothers sister, Aunty Tan, to us, Not sure if she was my Grandmothers sister of Grandfathers sister. She lived with her daughter Phyllis Roberts, husband Jack and boys Harold (Rabbit) Cyril and Anita in Rhos Y Waun