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Title: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: davetur on Thursday 15 August 19 16:54 BST (UK)
I'm tracing a Price family from Llanbedr in south Wales.  I have a Rosina May Annetts born 1894 marrying a Thomas Price in 1916 Reg Merthyr T. They appear on the 1939 register living at the Red Lion Inn Llanbedr along with two redacted people (I presume my mother in law and her sister Irene). The family only knew about Irene (Reene, mother's name recorded as Annetta), but when I look up any Price child born after 1916 with a mother's name of Annetts I find a group of other people in Merthyr T who could be family, but ALL die as small children. Was there some terrible disease in the area around the 1920s? Or did the Annetts carry a gene that was fatal to boys?
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 15 August 19 17:10 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Infant deaths were often because of poverty, only the death certificates would give you the true answer as to why they died.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: chempat on Thursday 15 August 19 22:04 BST (UK)
I can only see 3 births in Merthyr on free bmd:
George P in June quarter 1917, Thomas P in June quarter 1920 and Irene M in September quarter  1923, so who is your Mother-in-law, and only 2 deaths, so hardly a group?
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: davetur on Friday 16 August 19 08:27 BST (UK)
I have the marriage of Rosina and Thomas in Dec 1916 Merthyr T 11a 1240.Birth Geoarge P Jun 1917 Merthy T 11a 657. Died Jun 1920.
Birth Thomas M born Jun 1920 Merthyr T 11a 1851. Doed 1923.
Possible?? Birth James RV Cardiff 11a 509. mother Annetts. Died 1928.
Looking at births for Annetts in Merthyr T, Upton, Newent and Wheatenhurst seems to throw up a lot of infant deaths.
Mother in law's possible birth certificate is in the post at the moment, but presumed to be Joyce A Nash born Mar 1926 Ormskirk 8b 1453. She was adopted by the Price family in Llanbedr.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 16 August 19 09:27 BST (UK)
My Annetts family don't seem to be affected by anything more fatal to boys than to girls. Rosina May Annett's father was George born Reading about 1848/9. I believe he was the son of Richard Annetts and Harriet Cully baptised in Reading on 14 May 1848. Richard was the son of William Annetts, the half brother of my 2 x great grandfather John Annetts.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 16 August 19 09:46 BST (UK)
I think the Newent Annetts go back to William Annetts born Eldersfield Worcestershire and his wife Phoebe Coldrick. Probably not related to the Berkshire family.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 16 August 19 10:24 BST (UK)

I'm tracing a Price family from Llanbedr in south Wales. 

I have a Rosina May Annetts born 1894 marrying a Thomas Price in 1916 Reg Merthyr T.

29 Oct 1916 St John’s Church Dowlais

Rosina May Annetts age 22 85 Ivor Street Dowlais father George, fitter   
      
Thomas Jones Price age 25, crane driver, 15 Ivor Terrace Dowlais, father George, tailor

witnesses   Geo R Annetts, Rhys Price & E B Annetts
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 16 August 19 10:57 BST (UK)

I'm tracing a Price family from Llanbedr in south Wales. 

I have a Rosina May Annetts born 1894 marrying a Thomas Price in 1916 Reg Merthyr T.

29 Oct 1916 St John’s Church Dowlais

Rosina May Annetts age 22 85 Ivor Street Dowlais father George, fitter   
      
Thomas Jones Price age 25, crane driver, 15 Ivor Terrace Dowlais, father George, tailor

witnesses   Geo R Annetts, Rhys Price & E B Annetts

E B Annetts could be Rosina's sister Edith Blanche. Rosina had a brother George. I know he was born in Scotland, but haven't got a middle name for him. George snr was in army and the family moved around a bit
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 17 August 19 12:47 BST (UK)
Rosina had a brother George. I know he was born in Scotland, but haven't got a middle name for him.

27 Jun 1909 Dowlais Church

George Richard Annetts age 21, blacksmith, 85 Ivor Street , Dowlais
father George, fitter

Alice Elizabeth Jane Collins age 22, 10 Upper ? Street Dowlais, 
father Thomas, fruiterer

Witnesses William (T?) Sleeman(e) & Clara Lorna Collins

George Richard Annetts & Alice Elizabeth Jane Annetts address 21 East Street Dowlais
Year   1920 Season   Spring  Polling district or place   Dowlais
Constituency   P B of Merthyr Tydfil, Merthyr Division

George R Annetts died age 32 Jun 1920 Merthyr Tydfil 11a 817

George Annetts & Ellen Maria Jane Annetts address 85 Ivor Street Dowlais
Year 1920/1921 Autumn Dowlais
P B of Merthyr Tydfil, Merthyr Division

Thomas Jones Price & Rosina May Price address 34 Francis Street Dowlais
Year   1925 Season   Autumn Polling district or place   Dowlais
Constituency   P B of Merthyr Tydfil, Merthyr Division

Thomas Jones Price & Rosina May Price address 18 Heol-Y-Bryniau, Dowlais
Year   1926 Season   Autumn Polling district or place   Dowlais
Constituency   P B of Merthyr Tydfil, Merthyr Division
Don’t know if they are related there’s a
William Henry Lloyd Price & Margaret Ann Price living at no 16
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 17 August 19 13:04 BST (UK)
Thank you very much. George Richard was another one who died relatively young.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 17 August 19 14:16 BST (UK)

Birth Geoarge P Jun 1917 Merthy T 11a 657. Died Jun 1920.

Birth Thomas M born Jun 1920 Merthyr T 11a 1851. Doed 1923.

Possible?? Birth James RV Cardiff 11a 509. mother Annetts. Died 1928.


For info. on the GRO indexes James R V death give his middle names

PRICE, JAMES  REGINALD VERNON    age 0 
1928  M Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 544

and George P's 1917 birth gives his middle name as Phillip
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 17 August 19 15:09 BST (UK)

I'm tracing a Price family from Llanbedr in south Wales. 

I have a Rosina May Annetts born 1894 marrying a Thomas Price in 1916 Reg Merthyr T.

29 Oct 1916 St John’s Church Dowlais

Rosina May Annetts age 22 85 Ivor Street Dowlais father George, fitter   
      
Thomas Jones Price age 25, crane driver, 15 Ivor Terrace Dowlais, father George, tailor

witnesses   Geo R Annetts, Rhys Price & E B Annetts

davetur -  not sure if this is of any help to you or whether you have this info.

Thomas Jones Price Age   18
Birth town   Tregoyd & Velindre Brecknockshire
Service number   737
Regiment   South Wales Borderers
Unit / Battalion   Brecknock Battalion
address Velindre, Talgarth, Brecon occ Baker employer Mr David Evans, Liverpool Stores, Talgarth

Next of kin father George Price 
address Three Horse Shoes Velindre Three Cocks (the family are living at this address in 1911)

Here’s the 1891/1901 census Thomas is not with his family

1891 Inn, Velindre, Tregoyd and Velindre, Hay, Breconshire, Wales
George   Price   Head   1862   Tailor & Inn Keeper
Elizabeth   Price   Wife   1866   Pub
Georgina   Price   Daughter   1886   
Elizabeth E   Price   Daughter   1888   
Rhys   Price   Son   1889   
All born Velindre

Thomas Jones Price   Hay   Sep 1891 11b 113 mmn JONES
Rhys Price            Hay   Jun 1889 11b 119 mmn JONES

1901 Velindre, Tregoyd and Velindre, Hay, Breconshire, Wales
George   Price   Head   1862   Tailor & Inn Keeper
Elizabeth   Price   Wife   1867   Pub
Georgina   Price   Daughter   1886   
Rhys   Price   Son   1890   
George C   Price   Son   1893   
Ivor   Price   Son   1895   
John R   Price   Son   1901   

John Reginald Redvers Price Mar 1901 Hay 11b 111 mmn JONES
Blanche Vera Price               Jun 1904 Hay 11b 108 mmn JONES

Thomas Jones Price died age 80 Born 29 Jul 1891
Mar 1972 Herefordshire Volume:   9a Page:   101

Rosina May Price died age 83 born 15 Aug 1894
Dec 1977   Reading and Wokingham Berkshire Volume:   19 Page:   0530s

Rosina May Price of 19 Woodlands Rd Sonning Common Reading died 27 Nov 1977
Administration with Will Oxford 19 Jan 1978

Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: davetur on Saturday 17 August 19 16:58 BST (UK)
That certainly makes sense, as a family recollection is that Reene (Irene Price as was) married and raised a family in Reading. So Rosina quite likely moved from Wales to be near her daughter.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 18 August 19 12:27 BST (UK)
That certainly makes sense, as a family recollection is that Reene (Irene Price as was) married and raised a family in Reading.
So Rosina quite likely moved from Wales to be near her daughter.

As her birth was in Merthyr Tydfil 1923 I was going to ask if this was her death

Irene Price  Age: 25 Birth    abt 1923
Mar 1948   Merthyr Tydfil Volume: 8b Page:   370

but obviously not as she married and raised family in Reading
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Elizabeth Garrett on Wednesday 22 July 20 20:46 BST (UK)
Just seen this post. Thomas Jones PRICE is my family - my great uncle Tom and great aunt Rose. Should love to be in touch if you are still following this post. I have drawn a blank on their daughter Irene, and an adopted daughter Joyce.

Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 23 July 20 07:19 BST (UK)
Hello Elizabeth welcome to Rootschat  :D

Dave hasn't been active since November last year. If he is still receiving emails then he may well get back to this topic.

Having read it I was going to suggest that he obtained the will of Rosina to see if Irene is mentioned and whether it gives her married name.

Added:  As Ladyhawk found:-

Rosina May Price of 19 Woodlands Rd Sonning Common Reading died 27 Nov 1977  Administration with Will Oxford 19 Jan 1978
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 23 July 20 08:20 BST (UK)
Just seen this post. Thomas Jones PRICE is my family - my great uncle Tom and great aunt Rose. Should love to be in touch if you are still following this post. I have drawn a blank on their daughter Irene, and an adopted daughter Joyce.

Hello, Welcome to Rootschat. Your great aunt Rose was my half 3rd cousin once removed.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Elizabeth Garrett on Thursday 23 July 20 08:23 BST (UK)
Well, that's a family relationship worth celebrating! Thanks for the message.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Elizabeth Garrett on Thursday 23 July 20 08:29 BST (UK)
Thank you, Ladyhawk, for the welcome and suggestion about the will - great idea, I shall follow it up.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 23 July 20 15:57 BST (UK)
There's a marriage registration Crickhowell district Q1 1946 for Irene M Price and Leslie J Harris. Might be her.

Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: Elizabeth Garrett on Thursday 23 July 20 15:59 BST (UK)
Thanks so much. Yes, I thought that was likely, too.
Title: Re: Annetts of south Wales
Post by: davetur on Saturday 01 August 20 08:10 BST (UK)
Yes, the will of Rosina May Price confirms her daughter as Irene Maude Harris. Both living at 19 Woodlands Rd. Sonning Common in 1973. Rosina died on 27th Nov 1977.
Dave