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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tipperary => Topic started by: liver007 on Wednesday 18 September 19 16:43 BST (UK)
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I have come to this site only because I am stumped..
Trying to trace a Josephine Harris? DOB 1894 born Tipperary ....married a Frederick Thomas Hallam DOB 1/7/1892 Fenton Staffs.
I don’t know if they were married in Ireland or England. I have tried to find them without any luck.
Regards
Keith
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Hi Keith,
What else do you know?
Did they have children? If so, where and when.
Do you have them in 1939 census or any electoral registers?
Do you have deaths or wills?
It would just help people to decide where to look.
Heywood
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There is a death for Johana Hallam b abt 1895 in 1961, Stoke on Trent.
Is this your lady?
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It would match with this
Frederick Thomas Hallam
Birth 01/07/1892
Death 07/1983 Stoke on Trent Staffordshire
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There is this Tipperary birth for Johanna Harris
1894 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02236/1842514.pdf
It is a useful site https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
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Recorded as Frederick Hallon marriage in Tipperary
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09892/5594227.pdf
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There is a death for Johana Hallam b abt 1895 in 1961, Stoke on Trent.
Is this your lady?
Yes it is
Keith
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It would match with this
Frederick Thomas Hallam
Birth 01/07/1892
Death 07/1983 Stoke on Trent Staffordshire
Yes the same person
Keith
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Recorded as Frederick Hallon marriage in Tipperary
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09892/5594227.pdf
Oh wow Heywood
As you may have read my earlier reply regarding Frederick possibly being in Ireland as a soldier or policeman..
Thank you for your prompt response.
Ps I will use the sites again as my g great grandparents came to Liverpool from Ireland, and haven’t been able to trace them in Ireland.
Tsk
Keith
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No, I didn’t read the other thread but glad to have helped. :)
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No, I didn’t read the other thread but glad to have helped. :)
Heywood,
It all makes sense, and you were a great help....it just needs another set of eyes and that one jigsaw piece to make the connection.
Keith
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You will be able to look for Johanna and family in 1901 and 1911 censuses
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
And parents marriage and any siblings’ births etc on the previous site I posted.
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1901 James with first wife Johanna Meehan
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Caher/Tipperary_Road/1708396/
marriage 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10719/5907938.pdf
death of Johanna in 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05659/4593508.pdf
1910 James to Bridget Regan widow nee O'Donnell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/10003/5638015.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Caher/Market_Street/813319/
possible Johanna as Josephine
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Tipperary_West_Urban/Bridge_Street__Pt__of_/833265/
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Fred gunner R F A
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01418/1582698.pdf
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1901 James with first wife Johanna Meehan
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Caher/Tipperary_Road/1708396/
marriage 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10719/5907938.pdf
death of Johanna in 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05659/4593508.pdf
1910 James to Bridget Regan widow nee O'Donnell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/10003/5638015.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Caher/Market_Street/813319/
possible Johanna as Josephine
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Tipperary_West_Urban/Bridge_Street__Pt__of_/833265/
Dathai
Thank you for all the links and information.
Just going through it all this morning.
Keith
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James born 1869 to James and Ellen English marriage not found
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03392/2243983.pdf
mother 1901 with children of Michael Donnelly and Mary Harris marriage 1880
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Caher/Market_Street/1708282/
nearest i could find for Johanna Meehan 1872 to William and Alice Cormac not sure
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03260/2194994.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11431/8199090.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Holycross/Holycross/1712794/