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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: anitaszaban on Wednesday 18 September 19 22:38 BST (UK)
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IM trying to unravel a mystery,
Dorothy valance Robinson was born in the workhouse on 24 October 1918 burton road. we have birth certificate, it shows that Annie elizabeth Robinson as mother ( although she didn’t raise her ) domestic servant of free school lane. no father named I’m struggling with finding information out about the mother. There’s no evidence that she was legally adopted but a man named Robinson raised her, so thinking it could be a brother to Annie ? Is someone local to look at the work house records ? Thanks in advance
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Should have been posted on the Lincolnshire board so have asked the moderator to move it for you
See
https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/lincolnshire-archives/
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This may be of use https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/poorhouse
And what town was the Workhouse in please?
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One record says workhouse Lincoln, a later copy says registered guisborough ? To find info on. Annie I think I need someone who can access the records
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Freebmd clearly shows her birth was registered in Lincoln Dec qtr 1918. Where is Guisborough mentioned?
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On one of the certificates we have says guisborough town hall ?
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What kind of certificate? The only one relevant to a birth in the workhouse is the 1918 birth cert which is the subject of your post
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It’s on a 1901 document the factory and workshop act,
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She was born in the workhouse, this other paperwork is to get a certificate and it’s filled in ( handwritten ) townhall ?
Purpose of it was as Dorothy was ready to start school.
But I fo I require is about the workhouse days and to get an idea of her mother’s age etc and any other children eyc
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You are asking for a workhouse records lookup. Dorothy was born in a Workhouse in Lincolnshire in 1918 so where does a 1901 factory & workshop act record relate to that request?
How could Dorothy be ready to start school in 1901 when she wasn't born until 17 yrs later?
Please read your replies as they are confusing
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Is there anyway I can upload documents ?
It’s a form headed the factory and workshop act 1901
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You are asking for a workhouse records lookup. Dorothy was born in a Workhouse in Lincolnshire in 1918 so where does a 1901 factory & workshop act record relate to that request?
How could Dorothy be ready to start school in 1901 when she wasn't born until 17 yrs later?
Please read your replies as they are confusing
someone asked what area the workhouse was , so I said lincoln, but on another form is written guisborough that’s where that info came from. But info I’m after is from the workhouse registers, the 1901 act form was still being used to get information in 1923,
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Freebmd clearly shows her birth was registered in Lincoln Dec qtr 1918. Where is Guisborough mentioned?
hi Carole, I’ve uploaded the document as my picture just to show you
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I`ve read this several times and it all seems very confusing !
One thing - Guisborough is in N.Yorks/Cleveland, " Gainsborough " on the other hand is about 20 miles from Lincoln. As it seems as if the handwriting is unclear, if it was me I would go down the Gainsborough route just to see if it can be eliminated.
Do you know the full name of the man who raised Dorothy ? If so try for a connection on the 1911 Census.
Also, legal adoption didn`t start until about 1927, not sure off hand of the actual date.
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There is this Marriage;
05 Dec 1919, St Augustine, Grimsby
ANNIE ELIZABETH Robinson, Spinster, 23, abode Kylemore Weelsby Rd., Father URIAH Robinson, Labourer
MARK Robinson, Bachelor, 27, Occp Royal Marine, abode Scartho, Father WILLIAM Robinson, Labourer
Looking at Census before Marriage Mark was born c 1893 Laceby
1901 Annie Robinson, Father Uriah is born c 1896 Glentham, Lincolnshire
Just a possible scenario that Annie Robinson married Mark Robinson.
That would explain the Family story?
Trish :)
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I`ve read this several times and it all seems very confusing !
One thing - Guisborough is in N.Yorks/Cleveland, " Gainsborough " on the other hand is about 20 miles from Lincoln. As it seems as if the handwriting is unclear, if it was me I would go down the Gainsborough route just to see if it can be eliminated.
Do you know the full name of the man who raised Dorothy ? If so try for a connection on the 1911 Census.
Also, legal adoption didn`t start until about 1927, not sure off hand of the actual date.
hi, I too thought most likely Gainsborough as it’s closer BUT I’m thinking I would need someone to go to the registry to look for Annie elizabeth Robinson to see who else may of been with her, on the certificate it wasn’t Annie who registered Dorothy’s birth, Annie address is given as A domestic servant at freeschool Lane. We know Dorothy didn’t call the ppl who raised her mum and dad. But can’t clarify if his name was John as ppl seem to th8 k that was his nick name. Unamed father on birth certificate
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There is this Marriage;
05 Dec 1919, St Augustine, Grimsby
ANNIE ELIZABETH Robinson, Spinster, 23, abode Kylemore Weelsby Rd., Father URIAH Robinson, Labourer
MARK Robinson, Bachelor, 27, Occp Royal Marine, abode Scartho, Father WILLIAM Robinson, Labourer
Looking at Census before Marriage Mark was born c 1893 Laceby
1901 Annie Robinson, Father Uriah is born c 1896 Glentham, Lincolnshire
Just a possible scenario that Annie Robinson married Mark Robinson.
That would explain the Family story?
Trish :) thanks Trisha, I found a few possibilities of marriages and births for Annie but can’t be sure , I thought the workhouse records may show her age and when / howling she was at the workhouse
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If Annie didn't report the birth - then who did and what relationship & address is shown for that person?
This is the type of info that should have been included in your opening post
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If Annie didn't report the birth - then who did and what relationship & address is shown for that person?
This is the type of info that should have been included in your opening post
It was reported by it states A J Dodd occupier of 8a burton road. ( workhouse)
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Arthur James Dodd MASTER of workhouse.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Lincoln/lincoln_workhouse
There is a thread here on the 1901 Act https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=370696.0
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Arthur James Dodd MASTER of workhouse.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Lincoln/lincoln_workhouse
thankyou, is there anyway of getting workhouse records online ?
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I don`t know about the Lincoln Workhouse, but some have 100 year closure from "the last admission" on the register. I had one where the last admission is 1927, so I haven`t able to access it.You would have to investigate this, Lincoln Archives would be able to help you, they are very good at replying to emails.
Google Lincoln workhouse records online, it will bring up other threads on this.
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Hi in 1939 8a was entitled Public Assistance Institutions, Burton Road, Lincoln ( Parts of Lindsey ) All "Inmates" are shown as Incapacitated or Domestic Servants.
It appears to have been a house going on numbers 8 & 9 Burton Road?
Keyboard86
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It`s possible the houses may have been renumbered as the workhouse was demolished.
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It`s possible the houses may have been renumbered as the workhouse was demolished.
Agree, but then why was 8a Burton Road still listed as an Institution in 1939?
Keyboard86
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Google says 1965 .
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It`s possible the houses may have been renumbered as the workhouse was demolished.
Agree, but then why was 8a Burton Road still listed as an Institution in 1939?
Keyboard86
A small hospital perhaps ?
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Hello Members,
All this talk about Dorothy, She was my Grandmother and my Father (Dorothy's Son) would love any information if any of you are still active on this site. It seems she is the missing link to our Ancestry because she was adopted and we have almost no information. She married Ernie the Son of one of the Chipperfield daughter's Minnie.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
John Cater
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Google says 1965 .
My Grandfather and Great Grandfather died in the workhouse , both in 1924 ,
address was 8a Burton road, Lincoln.
Just a thought, is "Valance " a clue .
Eilleen.
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May I ask who were the witnesses on the M/C of Dorothy to Ernie?
Trish :)
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Hi John,
Firstly, apologies for jumping on your post without any information about your grandmother.
I could be barking up the wrong tree completely but believe we are possibly related. My great great grandmother would have been Minnie Chipperfield. She married a cater and I believe was disowned from the chipperfield family.
My grandfather was Richard cater who would have been Minnie’s grandson, making Minnie a great grandparent to my father. I believe you would be related to Minnie in the exact same way? I’d love to chat further and put any information we both have, together.
Kind regards, Leigh-ann Cater.