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Title: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 30 September 19 10:47 BST (UK)
William Street was a private in the Sussex Fencible Cavalry in 1799 according to the baptism record of his daughter Mary. Mary was baptised on 6 Oct 1799 at Goodramgate, York. The record says she is his first child, her motheer was Little late Dixon and she was born on 2 August.

I have found several more children with parents William and Little in Sussex and think they may be all one family
Frances Street  bapt 10 Sep 1808 Ferring,Sussex
Ann Street  bapt 10 Sep 1808 Ferring
Sarah Street  bapt 17 Apr 1814 East Preston, Sussex
Martha Street bapt  14 Jan 1816 East Preston
James Street bapt 27 Feb 1817 South Stoke,Sussex
William Street bapt  27 Feb 1817 South Stoke
Ellen Street  bapt 7 Feb 1820 South Stoke

I have a marriage in Dumfries in 1798 for William and Little

I have a DNA match with a descendant of a William Street b abt 1817/18 who gave one of his sons Little as a middle name, but the child's mother's maiden name was Carpenter. So I think this William Street is the son of Little Dixon.
I have found William and Little in Sussex on the 1851 census, he says he was born in Warningcamp, Sussex abt 1779.
Can anyone find baptism and parents for William snr please.
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: emeltom on Monday 30 September 19 11:12 BST (UK)
I cab find a baptism for William Street 6 June 1779 in Lyminster (Warningcamp was a tithing in Lyminster) on both FindMyPast and FreeReg. Neither entry has any details of the parents. There do not appear to be any other Strret baptisms in Lyminster around that time.

Emeltom
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 30 September 19 11:25 BST (UK)
Thank you, looks a strong possibility. Shame about the lack of parents and potential siblings. I am hoping that he was the son of either William or John Street of Chiddingfold Surrey. Their sister was my direct ancestor and moved from Surrey to Pulborough Sussex.

If not then the DNA match is with another branch of my tree. But that was the best chance because of surnames matching and location.
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 30 September 19 11:40 BST (UK)
Just found the image of that baptism on Familysearch, I wondered if it was so faint it couldn't be read, but it is reasonably clear. No sign of parents.
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: emeltom on Monday 30 September 19 12:02 BST (UK)
A miracle birth!

Emeltom
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 30 September 19 12:17 BST (UK)
Perhaps the vicar jotted it down on a post-it note and forgot the names of the parents when he came to write it in the register later.

It looks like John Street died in Chiddingfold, Surrey in 1778 (buried 11 Aug 1778). There is a marriage in Dunsfold to a Mary Child, who I believe is the sister of Thomas Child, who married Elizabeth Street (John's sister and my 4 x great grandmother). Haven't tracked William's marriage (if he did marry) yet.
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: emeltom on Monday 30 September 19 13:04 BST (UK)
Could this be the marriage

William Street, Soldier/Little Dickson 6 October 1798 Dumfries

Don't know if this link will work but it's on FindMyPast and fs

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?surname=street&any_place=Dumfries%2C%20Dumfries%2C%20Scotland&any_place_exact=on&collection_id=1771030&collection_id=1771074&collection_id=2221801&count=75&offset=0

Emeltom
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 30 September 19 13:12 BST (UK)
yes, that matches with baptism of first child and Little was born in Scotland according to 1841 census. He married at 19. Presumably posted to Scotland, then to York and back to Sussex by 1808.
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 30 September 19 13:16 BST (UK)
I've now got 3 more children to fill the gap between Mary and Ann, they are David, Elizabeth and Little in Goring, Sussex

Free reg confirms the two pairs of baptisms were both sets of twins
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 30 September 19 13:27 BST (UK)
Might be a coincidence but there's a William Street marrying a Mary Groome in Goring on 8 Feb 1775. And Goring was the place William (1779) came back to in Sussex.
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 02 October 19 12:05 BST (UK)
Just found image of that marriage record and William's signature is quite similar to his signature a few years earlier when he and his brother John were witnesses to his mother's second marriage. he had to squeeze it in the space as Mary signed first with such a large signature it overflowed on the line below.
They had a son William Noah Street baptised in 1776. I am wondering if that was the William who married Little Dixon.
In 1841 his birth year calculates as 1776, if it was 1779 it should be rounded to 1781. Little's age is rounded to 1781. In 1851 his age is given as 72, same as Little's, co calculated birth year is 1776. But looking in the disability column he is blind, so wouldn't be able to fill in householder's form himself, so Little or whoever filled it in just guessed at his age. His age at death would give birth year of 1778, but as he died in Q1 of 1860, he may not have had his birthday in that year yet. William Noah Street baptised in May 1776. Little died in 1859, so could not have been the informant.

The record of marriage for William Street and Mary Groome says she was from Arundel. Warningcamp is quite near Arundel as well.

The Lyminster William could be an adult baptism, I have often seen those recorded without parents, and that William is just a co-incidence and not related.

I think brother John may have died a bit later than I said, I've found another burial in 1828 which is a good fit on age and place.
Title: Re: Looking for baptism / parents of William Street
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 28 April 23 12:41 BST (UK)
After several years I've come back to this puzzle, after finding a will for yet another William Street!

The "new" William Street was a farmer from Dunsfold Surrey. He made his will on 1 Dec 1768 and it was proved on 6 Feb 1770. He mentions his wife Catherine and grandchildren, William Street, John Street and Elizabeth Child. William gets the largest portion and Elizabeth the least as William senior says he has already provided for her. In the will it is mentioned that John is under 21 at the time of writing and I think William is as well, although he is granted probate. Property in Rudgwick is mentioned.
The grandchildren match with three siblings on my tree.
Elizabeth Street bapt 4 March 1748 Chiddingfold married Thomas Child 17 Dec 1767 Dunsfold
William Street bapt 29 May 1750 Chiddingfold  possibly the William in reply #9
John Street bapt 06 Dec 1751 Chiddingfold married Mary Child 08 Sep 1774 Dunsfold

They were the children of William Street and Elizabeth Jen(n)ings who married by licence on 20 Mar 1747 in Guildford. William was 24 and Elizabeth 21 when they married. This William was buried on 21 Jan 1752. Elizabeth remarried to George Osborne on 24 Oct 1771 in Dunsfold (referred to in reply #10).
So William (the grandfather) would have taken on responsibility for his deceased son's children and may have made a generous settlement when Elizabeth married Thomas Child. No other children or grandchildren are mentioned in the will, so Willim jnr may have been his only child or the only one to reach adulthood.
If I could prove William 1750 was the father of the William who married Little Dixon, my DNA match would fall into place nicely.