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Title: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: catherine k on Tuesday 12 November 19 21:23 GMT (UK)
Hi i searching for a marriage certificate for Thomas Kilbane 1894 born in Dooniver Achill Co Mayo Mary Cafferkey 1892/3 born in Polranny Achill the daughter there oldest child Mary was born 1917 so they would have been married before then i have seen Marys birth certificate However they had a son Patrick born 1919 but carnt find his birth certificate either Mary Kilbane nee Cafferkey died in 1935 Thomas Kilbane emergrated to Cleveland Ohio i would be very grateful for any information as ive searched for these Certificates with no luck they would have had a Catholic Marriage
Kind regards
Catherine K
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 12 November 19 23:03 GMT (UK)
Patrick's birth cert won't be online yet due to the 100 year rule, he appears to be on the index on FamilySearch.
It's possible Thomas and Mary's marriage was never registered, or is it possible they married abroad?
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: catherine k on Tuesday 12 November 19 23:16 GMT (UK)
Hi i have found a lot of birth death and marriage certificates on the Irishgenealogy which is free and give great details some are even past 1940s was just puzzled how i can't find Thomas and Marys marriage and Patricks birth entry also Mary Cafferkey Kilbane died in Achill maybe they did get married somwhere else thankyou for your reply
Catherine K
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 13 November 19 06:18 GMT (UK)
The 100 year rule applies to births.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-years-are-covered-by-the-historic-records-of-births-marriages-and-deaths
75 years for marriages
50 years for deaths.
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: catherine k on Wednesday 13 November 19 09:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your reply.
Also maybe they did get married somwhere else the only place I'm thinking could be Scotland ? as i know a lot of my family went there and came back to Achill.
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 13 November 19 09:28 GMT (UK)

Hi i searching for a marriage certificate for Thomas Kilbane 1894 born in Dooniver Achill Co Mayo......


Thomas actually born on 2nd December 1893 in Dooniver.    #445
Are Brian Kilbane and Mary McTigue your great grandparents?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02269/1852534.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/burrishoole/achill/achill/dooniver/

KG

Edited to add: Achill Island is a lovely place on the west coast of Ireland.
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 13 November 19 15:07 GMT (UK)

There is this marriage in Scotland.
KILBANE  THOMAS  &    MCAFFERTY  MARY    1916        387/ 122          Perth
Mary’s surname may have been mis-transcribed.
You can view the certificate on ScotlandsPeople for 6 credits (£1.50).

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

KG
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 13 November 19 15:41 GMT (UK)

.....Mary Cafferkey 1892/3 born in Polranny Achill.......


Mary born on 4th February 1892 at Pullranny (sic).      #147
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02355/1880044.pdf

Townland of Pollranny (Sweeny), Achill Civil Parish.
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/burrishoole/achill/corraun-achill/pollranny-sweeny/

1911 Irish Census for Mary and her family at Pollranny (Sweeny).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Corraun/Pollranny__Sweeny_/744975/

KG

Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: catherine k on Wednesday 13 November 19 17:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Thankyou so much for this information yes Bryan and Mary are my Great Grandparents My Grandad Edward Kilbane was Thomas brother My Grandad Edward married Bridget Kilbane from Saula My late father was also Brian i have so relatives still living in Achill i had a theory that Thomas and Mary might have went to Scotland as my father and his Siblings along with a great many people from the Island went there potato picking then came back to Achill however I know a lot of my relatives emergrated to Cleveland Ohio
Kind regards
Catherine K
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 13 November 19 17:44 GMT (UK)

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My Grandad Edward married Bridget Kilbane from Saula.....


For everyone's information, the marriage was in 1921.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09228/5339150.pdf
Looks like his brother Bryan was a witness.

Salia (Saula) townland
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/burrishoole/achill/achill/salia/

Just putting up the 1911 census, for reference:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Achill/Dooniver/743563/

KG



Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: catherine k on Wednesday 13 November 19 20:45 GMT (UK)
Hi thankyou for the information regarding my Grandparents Bridget and Edward i did visit them on my holidays to Achill they were lovely people My 2 brothers live in Achill ive just been doing the family tree and gathering information there are so many relatives on the island I'm so grateful
Kind regards Catherine K
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: MMaloney on Monday 17 April 23 02:01 BST (UK)
Hi Catherine, I just saw your post from 2019 and I can help a bit. I am of the Cleveland Kilbanes. I actually had dinner with Patrick's (Thomas' son) daughter this evening. I realize it has been awhile since you posted so I hope you see this.
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 17 April 23 20:33 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat, MMaloney  :)

The OP (catherine k) was last online here last month and should be receiving e-mail notifications to respond to their thread. If you make at least one more post, you can use the PM (Personal Message) system to contact them.

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However they had a son Patrick born 1919 but carnt find his birth certificate either...

This may have been found by the OP, but here's the birth record for Pat (Patrick) Kilbane.
Born 11 April 1919 at Dooniver (see reply #5)    #170
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01245/1517674.pdf


Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: catherine k on Tuesday 18 April 23 01:14 BST (UK)
Hi MMaloney
Lovely to hear from you I've heard a lot of the Cleveland Kilbanes as I know we are connected that's amazing that you are in touch with Thomas Kilbane Granddaughter as he was my Grandads Edward brother I had been getting a lot of information from Kiltaglassan about G uncle Thomas and I've seen a photo of him it was taken in Cleveland one of the Gannon was on the photo I know His Son Patrick made a few trips back to Achill as my family met him his sister Mary I'm sure she stayed in Achill I'm sure if she married a Vasey I will have to check my tree as there's hundreds of Kilbanes on there 😊 I'm sure we can share more stories look forward to hearing from you as it would lovely to stay in touch
Kind regards.
Catherine K
Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 18 April 23 12:23 BST (UK)

For MMaloney's benefit, here's the marriage that you refer to-

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...His Son Patrick made a few trips back to Achill as my family met him his sister Mary I'm sure she stayed in Achill I'm sure if she married a Vasey...

Marriage 14 February 1943 to John M Vesey, a farmer and living at The Valley (Tonatanvally - Irish: Tóin an tSeanbhaile).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1943/08776/5172321.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/burrishoole/achill/achill/toin-an-tseanbhaile/

John M Vesey with his family - 1911 census.
House 37 in Tonatanvally (Achill, Mayo).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Achill/Tonatanvally/743672/


Title: Re: My Great uncle Thomas Kilbane
Post by: catherine k on Tuesday 18 April 23 18:45 BST (UK)
Hi
Thankyou for getting back to me with this information I thought Mary married a Vesey and we were related to the Vesey family there are so many relations there my 2 brothers also live there 1 lives on the Shore Road Saula and 1 lives in Bunnacurry there's so much information Im searching for as also my Grandfather Edward Thomas brother married Bridget Kilbane her father was Patrick kilbane and her Mother was Catherine Murphy her father was George Murphy from the Glen in Saula but I can't find much about him anyway any information I would be very grateful
Kind regards
Catherine K