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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: a chesters on Friday 13 December 19 04:50 GMT (UK)
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I am wondering if anyone can assist in helping me find the baptism record for Stephen Robins (Robbins/Robens).
The information I have is that he was born 8 May 1813 at Hastings, Sussex, England. However, I do not have any sources for this information, other than “family legend”
In 1839, he migrated to Australia with his wife Sarah Catt (Cate). He was described as a bricklayer, and she as a laundress. Once here, he did well for himself, and I have good records.
BUT, when and where was he baptised, and if possible when and where was he born.
If anyone can point me to where I can find this information, I would be very grateful
A Chesters
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Family search has some records for Hastings
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=23298&query=%2Bplace%3A%22England%2C%20Sussex%2C%20Hastings%22&subjectsOpen=430912-50
I’ve looked at the rest of 1813 for All Saints and St Clements but didn’t notice any likely baptism (post May) but don’t trust me!
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You are researching the origins of Stephen ROBINS?
"...Once here, he did well for himself, and I have good records."
What do you know about the life of this family in Australia.....(NSW?).....?
Records for BDM events in NSW are informative. Naming patterns often appear....house / property names can be a clue to origins.......chain migration can be useful in connecting members of family.....
The information you have would be useful.
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Do you have his marriage which should name his father
Marriages Jun qtr 1838
CATT Sarah
ROBENS Stephen
Hastings 7 420
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Immigration record says he is the son of a Thomas a labourer of Bexhill and Elizabeth Gorringe his wife.
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Immigration record says he is the son of a Thomas a labourer of Bexhill and Elizabeth Gorringe his wife.
Is this marriage too early :-\
Elizabeth Goring
Thomas Robbins
12 May 1786
Brightling, Sussex
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There is a Thomas and Elizabeth couple in Bexhill in 1841, age 88 & 82!
Ambitious to think they could be biological parents, but perhaps ‘adoptive’? Also in house are Samuel and Emma both age 36 so born abt 1805
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Thank you all for your interest and help.
Mckha489 I have tried to look at that information, but it keeps coming back as "unable to display search results due to technical difficulties" Also there does not seem to be much in the way of online information, as the majority of the FS information is on film.
wivenhoe He did remarkably well for a bricklayer, as per the Arrival records, but he was recorded as a stone mason a few years later, at his first daughters baptism. He accumulated a sizable property portfolio in the area just to the south of the CBD of Sydney. By 1858, he had four houses in the same street, with a gross annual value of £111. I have not found any names of the properties, just the city rates books.
Rosie99 I have his marriage 4 Jun 1838 at St Mary in the Castle, with his father as Thomas Robins a labourer.
Mckha489 That is the information on the Australian Archives Reel AO 1304
Rosie99 That is the only marriage I have been able to find regarding Thomas and Elizabeth in Sussex
Mckha489 I had not thought of the possibility of "adoptive". :-[ I have not been able to find any other information about the 'siblings"
Again, many thanks for your help.
AC
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There is a Thomas and Elizabeth couple in Bexhill in 1841, age 88 & 82!
Possible deaths as Roberts!
March 1847 Battle 7 244
Roberts, Elizabeth
age 84
Sep 1847 Battle 7 183
Roberts, Thomas
age 94
Burials at Bexhill St Peter
Elizabeth Roberts, 21 Mar 1847, age 84
Thomas Roberts, 25 Aug 1847, age 94
Little acknowledgement (if any at all) anywhere of Thomas Catt's second marriage in 1851
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DT3Q-44W
Or his brief will.
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Have you looked in The Keep?
Might this be the Samuel present in 1841? (Sorry going off at a tangent, but you never know what might later prove useful)
https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_ACC165_2002_19
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jonw65: Thank you very much for that marriage information. I was not aware that he could have remarried. I have the 1851 census showing him as a widower, with his 14 yo niece, in Ticehurst.
That causes a few problems, as I also have him dying in Ticehurst in 1855, of COPD. Which is correct?
Mckha489: Thank you for that, I do not think it a tangent, just another track to follow. However, it says "Samuel Robins of Bexhill, late of Ninfield, labourer". Does that imply that he has died, or just that the mortgage can be cancelled? Very interesting.
AC
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I understood it to mean that he is now of Bexhill, but he used to live in Ninfield.
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Thank you for that, just need to put brain into gear, and start thinking :-[
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It's curious, Thomas Catt is - if I have the right person - an Ag Lab on the census, at other times is described as a Brickmaker.
Will dated 15 Sep 1855, and proved the following year
Brief, but a couple of images here (need to be logged in)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRTW-3JC?i=241&cat=685691
Is he the chap who says he spent two years in America?
https://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_ALF_7_17
For the Robins I think it would be helpful to see if there were any baptisms in Bexhill, but I'm not sure that they are online.
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jonw65: I am beginning to think that there are two Thomas Catt's in Sussex at the time.
The one I am interested in is the labourer. The information I have, is that he died in 1855, aged about 65, in Salehurst.
The one you showed me as marrying in 1857 must be another Thomas Catt, who was widowed at the time.
Very confusing, as I do not know just how widespread the Catt name was in Sussex at the time.
AC