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Title: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 25 March 20 11:20 GMT (UK)

I have Margaret until the 1881 census when she is living at home with her parents Charles Millar and Isabella Stevenson she is a dressmaker .
On family search I have found  she died on the 31st May 1934 in Detroit Wayne Michigan her married name is Hughes .

There is no marriage for her on SP  who did she marry where  and did she have any family ?

Thanks

suzilad.

Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: Kloumann on Wednesday 25 March 20 12:01 GMT (UK)
This could be grave.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13790696/margaret-m_-hughes
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 12:04 GMT (UK)
Interesting burial was Toronto 2/6/1934 - had been a USA resident for 20 years.

This could be the FIND A GRAVE entry. (Except it says Margaret Millard Hughes   ???)

Margaret Hughes - 1857 - 1934  and William Hughes 1857 - 1919

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/155590253#view-photo=132399000

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 12:05 GMT (UK)
This could be grave.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13790696/margaret-m_-hughes

The death certificate said Margaret was buried in Toronto.

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 12:11 GMT (UK)
There is a possibility on the 1911 Census 167 Selmuenda Toronto

William Hughes   64 born March 1957 England. Imnm 1905.
Margreta Hughes34 born August 1859 so the age should be more like 52
Archie Hughes   15 born England 1895.

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e002023753.jpg

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 25 March 20 12:28 GMT (UK)


 Apologies I thought I had written her date of birth it was 22nd of August 1856 in Dalkeith Midlothian

Scotland She has no middle names on birth cert.

suzilad
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 12:31 GMT (UK)
Think the middle name given on find a grave was meant to be Millar not Millard - they often use the maiden name on these entries.

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 25 March 20 12:37 GMT (UK)


I was thinking that might be the case to Sandra

suzilad
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 25 March 20 16:18 GMT (UK)
On family search I have found  she died on the 31st May 1934 in Detroit Wayne Michigan her married name is Hughes .

She died at 10410 East Jefferson, Chateau Frontenac Apt 6M
her length of residence in Detroit: about 3 years
her length of residence in US: about 20 years
informant: Mr Charles E Smith, same address
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 25 March 20 16:37 GMT (UK)
1940 Census, Detroit
on East Jefferson Ave
Charles E Smith, 50, born in Michigan, lived in Detroit in 1935
Kathleen Smith, wife, 50, born in Canada, lived in Detroit in 1935
Charles Hughes, 42, brother in law, born in Canada, lived in Chicago in 1935, naturalization papers pending
Mary Hughes, 40, sister, born in Illinois, lived in Chicago in 1935

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KH9B-N4L


are the Hughes relatives?
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 25 March 20 17:02 GMT (UK)
If all the numbers are right in that 1940 census in the last post, then maybe Kathleen Smith's maiden name was Hughes.
The Smiths were in Detroit in 1934 when Margaret (Millar) Hughes died, but Charles & Mary Hughes were in Chicago, at least in 1935.
Why would Margaret be living with a non-relative?
If so, could this be a case of siblings marrying siblings?
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 17:10 GMT (UK)
So could we presume there might be a Charles Hughes/Kathleen Hughes and Archie Hughes.   ???

We have Archie presumably born England - can't quite read that on the 1911 but they all immigrated 1905.
Charles Hughes born Canada. Kathleen Hughes born Canada  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 25 March 20 18:33 GMT (UK)

Just found this Sandra

 Charles E Smith  married 18 Nov 1908 Toronto York  to Ethel K. Hughes  aged 22 born 1886

brides father William Hughes mother Margaret Millar

I presume the K stands for Kathleen

suzilad
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 18:53 GMT (UK)
Well done. Great find. :)

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:10 GMT (UK)
I don't know locations in England very well. Could this be their marriage:

marriages at freebmd.org.uk

Marriages Sep Quarter 1883 
HUGHES    William James       Birkenhead    8a   765
MILLER    Margaret Ann       Birkenhead    8a   765

edit, probably not. see 2 posts below.
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: RJ137 on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:14 GMT (UK)
On the 1911 census for William, Margaret & son Archie Hughes, you can see Charles & Katherine Smith listed below them. Katherine is born England and immigrated in 1905, same as for  William, Margaret & son Archie.

Katherine Smith 1911 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBQ-2NMW

William Hughes 1911 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBQ-2NM3
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:19 GMT (UK)
I don't know locations in England very well. Could this be their marriage:

marriages at freebmd.org.uk

Marriages Sep Quarter 1883 
HUGHES    William James       Birkenhead    8a   765
MILLER    Margaret Ann       Birkenhead    8a   765
This might not be them after all. I found a couple births in Birkenhead to a Hughes - Miller couple and the children's names don't match the couple in Toronto
Just in case, the childrens names were:
Robert Ernest, born 4th qtr 1886
Amy Maud, born 3rd qtr 1890
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:22 GMT (UK)
Canadian Passenger List - Wm Hughes aged 45 years - joiner - Mary aged 44 years - Ethel aged 20 years - Chas aged 9 years - all from Denbigh Wales. Going to Toronto. 
Liverpool to Halifax nova Scotia arriving 13 April 1906 on the Victorian.

So is the son Chas really Archie  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:25 GMT (UK)


Charles Archibald Hughes - mothers maiden name Millar.      
GRO Reference: 1898  J Quarter in LLANRWST UNION  Volume 11B  Page 251

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:29 GMT (UK)
Canadian Attestation Papers for Charles Archer Hughes - 24/2/1898 - 14 Herbert Avenue. Toronto
(46 pages)


http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B4587-S027

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:30 GMT (UK)
U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995 - Charles Archer Hughes - 24 Feb 1898 -
Detroit Court Michigan 24/9/1941

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HM3T-L6ZM

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZR-P94D-3?cc=2546149&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AHM3T-L6ZM

Married his wife Mary 15 September 1930 Chicago Illinois

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q21V-VSDR

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:34 GMT (UK)

Charles Archer Hughes crossed the border 10 March 1919- crossing Buffalo New York.

Will send to your personal email address.  :)

Appears on WW2 Drafts for young men - Charles Archer Hughes - 24 Feb 1898 Bettwys-Y-Coed, Wales,
Registration Date:   16 Feb 1942 - Detroit Wayne Michigan.

Sandra
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: RJ137 on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:38 GMT (UK)
This appears to be Charles & Ethel

The type of occupations for Charles seems consistent in all the censuses.

1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MX8C-9V2

census indicates they have been married 21 yrs (m. 1908/1909)
1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCD3-Y1G

1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KH9B-N4L
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:41 GMT (UK)

Thank you everyone for all this information.

Think Charles died on 21 May 1963 in Los Angeles California

suzilad
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:45 GMT (UK)
You're very welcome. Well Done you.

Sandra  :)
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: RJ137 on Wednesday 25 March 20 19:52 GMT (UK)
Charles Archer Hughes

SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J18Q-5JD

CADI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPCZ-K5Q

Death Cert: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGFN-Y6XL
Title: Re: Margaret Millar born 1856 Dalkeith Midlothian died 1934 Detroit Michigan.`
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 March 20 20:05 GMT (UK)
California Death Index - Mary M Hughes - 30 April 1895 Illinois - 21 July 1975 Los Angeles.

Death Notice for Mary's father -Chicago Tribune Chicago, Illinois
5 Mar 1926, Fri    Page 29

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/47336852/james-cornwall-5-march-1926/

1900 census Precinct 50 Chicago city Ward 12, Cook

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS3X-BM2

1910 census Chicago Ward 13, Cook, Illinois.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKCP-TSY


1920 census Chicago Ward 13, Cook (Chicago), Illinois.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ3L-MG3

1930   Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, California.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q21V-VSDR

Sandra