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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: EvieS on Sunday 26 April 20 08:53 BST (UK)
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Hi there
I am looking records for Edwin Pitt (born 1859). It appears he was born in Somerset. The only information I have on his parents are that their names were Edward Pitt (father), and Phoebe (mother). Any assistance would be gratefully appreciated.
Thank you,
Evelyn
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Hello,
What information do you have about Edwin in his later life?
There is an Edwin born and living in Bath in
1861 1686/76/22
with parents Edwin and Sarah.
This site https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp shows births indexes with mother’s maiden name which is very useful
Heywood
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Is this Edwin's birth?
December qtr 1857
Wincanton Registration District vol 5c, page 515
Pitt, Edwin George
And, from the GRO Indexes website:
PITT, EDWIN GEORGE (Mother's Maiden Name:) COFFIN
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in WINCANTON Volume 05C Page 515
Ignore that one - parents are Albert & Jane ???
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There is this one
1861 1739/39/29
Edward G Pitt 3 months b Westbury, Gloucestershire
with parents Henry R and Phoebe A plus siblings
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I'm (again) not seeing anything . :) :)
OK looking family in Staffs-but that Edwin was a little older.
Maureen
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Thank you all for the replies so far.
The birth date was 1859, but I believe that may have been an approximate. As an adult, Edwin Pitt and his wife had 12 children between 1886 and 1908 (8 sons and 4 daughters). His wife was Sarah Elizabeth Holmes, who was born in New Zealand (her parents were John Holmes and Harriet Anne Baker). He died on the 13th of April 1922 in Christchurch, New Zealand. I have no information on when he left England.
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I am looking records for Edwin Pitt (born 1859). It appears he was born in Somerset.
Thank you,
Evelyn
Hi Evelyn,
May I ask where you got the Somerset info?
Kind regards,
Maureen
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Hi Maureen,
I found the Somerset reference on Ancestry webpage. They don't seem to have any evidence listed as to where that came from - but it is the only information I have to go on.
Thank you
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Hi Maureen,
I found the Somerset reference on Ancestry webpage. They don't seem to have any evidence listed as to where that came from - but it is the only information I have to go on.
Thank you
What do you mean by Ancestry web page, are you referring to someones tree.
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Yes, that was what I was meaning.
I am beginning to wonder whether the Somerset part is correct at all. I also wonder whether Edwin may be listed as Edward? There are lots of relatives with the name Edward. I have also seen Pitt recorded as "Pitts" (for other family members). Argh!
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Ancestry shows 2 records for Edwin Pitt b 1859 - passage to Queensland in 1883.
One links to here https://www.qld.gov.au/recreation/arts/heritage/archives but I can’t open the relevant section
Immigration - Assisted Immigration 1848- 1912
Alternatively, there is an Ancestry record which I do not have access to
Queensland, Australia Passenger Lists 1848-1912
It might not be your man but I was hoping there could be an occupation which might link him to 1881 census.
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Did he and Sarah marry in Australia? I don’t see a marriage in NZ.
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Ancestry shows 2 records for Edwin Pitt b 1859 - passage to Queensland in 1883.
One links to here https://www.qld.gov.au/recreation/arts/heritage/archives but I can’t open the relevant section
Immigration - Assisted Immigration 1848- 1912
Alternatively, there is an Ancestry record which I do not have access to
Queensland, Australia Passenger Lists 1848-1912
It might not be your man but I was hoping there could be an occupation which might link him to 1881 census.
That one is 24, he has what seems to be a wife, Phebe Eliza 25, and two daughters Leonora and Linda Annie. No occupation or addresses.
They are Bounty Immigrants,
I think it’s a son, Leonard, and the daughter Linda Annie
They do seem to be accounted for in Australia
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I am looking records for Edwin Pitt (born 1859).
Why do you think he was born in 1859? The only death for an Edwin PITT in NZ has his age at 71 in 1922.
https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19230413.2.6
Debra :)
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As Edwin does not seem to have married you will have to get a printout of the birth registration of one of his children which will give Edwin's age and birthplace. His death certificate should have his parents' names if known by the informant, perhaps this is where the Edwin and Phoebe has come from. You really need to see these documents for yourself.
Debra :)
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That one is 24, he has what seems to be a wife, Phebe Eliza 25, and two daughters Leonora and Linda Annie. No occupation or addresses.
They are Bounty Immigrants,
I think it’s a son, Leonard, and the daughter Linda Annie
They do seem to be accounted for in Australia
I had seen that couple in 1881 census and wondered if it was him, that might be where the Phoebe came into the story. However, if they settled in Australia, not your man. :(
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Thank you Debra. Gosh, yes! I think that is him. That is definitely the date of his death - 13th of April 1922 - and it does make him 71 when he died! That original post on the Ancestry page I was looking at must to be incorrect. He must have been born in 1851. Thanks also for the heads up re: the printout. Will look into this.
And thank you "Mckha489" and "heywood" - That Australian/Queensland connection would make a lot of sense! That's probably why I have been having trouble finding them. The confusing part has also come as a result of Edwin (Phebe's husband) having gone by both 'Edwin' and 'Edward' at different times. I just need to somehow confirm that they had Leonard, Linda Annie .. and Edwin (among others perhaps), and figure out how Edwin junior ended up in New Zealand. I don't believe his parents ever settled in New Zealand - the assumption was made that they were still based in the UK.
I am so grateful to everyone who has taken time to answer my posts! :-) :D ....
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With the age of 71 in 1922, this Edwin Pitt may be a possibility:
Birth Jun 1850 Qtr Clifton 11-283
Mmn Smith.
Clifton although in Gloucs, is part of Bristol which straddles Gloucs and Somerset.
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The Clifton Registration District only ever contained Gloucestershire parishes ;D
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/clifton.html
I was born in Bristol, but grew up in North Somerset!
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Thank you Debra. Gosh, yes! I think that is him. That is definitely the date of his death - 13th of April 1922 - and it does make him 71 when he died! That original post on the Ancestry page I was looking at must to be incorrect. He must have been born in 1851. Thanks also for the heads up re: the printout. Will look into this.
And thank you "Mckha489" and "heywood" - That Australian/Queensland connection would make a lot of sense! That's probably why I have been having trouble finding them. The confusing part has also come as a result of Edwin (Phebe's husband) having gone by both 'Edwin' and 'Edward' at different times. I just need to somehow confirm that they had Leonard, Linda Annie .. and Edwin (among others perhaps), and figure out how Edwin junior ended up in New Zealand. I don't believe his parents ever settled in New Zealand - the assumption was made that they were still based in the UK.
I am so grateful to everyone who has taken time to answer my posts! :-) :D ....
I think the Edwin who emigrated to Australia was married to Phoebe and born abt 1859. Mckha489 posted that they are to be found in Australia later so does not seem to be your Edwin.
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NZ Certificates are incredible with the info they contain.
As already said you need some to continue with your research, :)