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Title: Mysterious address
Post by: Heatha on Friday 05 June 20 14:33 BST (UK)
On a birth certificate issued in 1851 the place of birth and the residence of the child and mother is given as (quite clearly) "Canal Wycombe".

The registration district is Wycombe and the Registrar's district is High Wycombe.

Can anyone shed any light on this address ?

Heatha
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Gadget on Friday 05 June 20 14:47 BST (UK)
The 1851 census address listing has Canal Side, Steers Yard, Chepping Wycombe

Gadget
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 05 June 20 14:50 BST (UK)
Born on a canal boat perhaps?
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Gadget on Friday 05 June 20 14:57 BST (UK)
The 1851 census address listing has Canal Side, Steers Yard, Chepping Wycombe

Gadget

I've not found Steers Yard on the NLS old maps yet. Hope someone can as m eyes are going funny!

Gadget
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Heatha on Saturday 06 June 20 14:16 BST (UK)
Thank you very much.

Does anyone know whereabouts in Chepping Wycombe Canal Side may have been ?

Heatha
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 06 June 20 14:25 BST (UK)
Have you found the mother in the 1851 census?
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 06 June 20 14:35 BST (UK)
There are quite a lot of families living in Canal Side but I don't see it on the map

Try  1851 census 
 Joseph Pierce, aged 38, HO107/1719/151/20     before and after this ref.
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 06 June 20 14:41 BST (UK)
It's close to Queens Square and Oxford Road
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 06 June 20 14:47 BST (UK)
Nearest that I can find on a modern map is

https://goo.gl/maps/c16geFwiEzMonJh96

It could be the water course named The Dyke which runs into the river.

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Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 06 June 20 14:48 BST (UK)
In the 1861 census the road where Joseph Pierce lived is just "Canal", with house numbers.
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 06 June 20 14:49 BST (UK)
I think it must be the Dyke, Shaun. It was certainly on the old maps when I looked yesterday.
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Heatha on Saturday 06 June 20 14:52 BST (UK)
I have found the area from the census in 1851 when Ann (Robert's mother) was living with her parents but there is now no water anywhere near there.
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 06 June 20 14:55 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pjz/

Arrowed
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Heatha on Saturday 06 June 20 15:01 BST (UK)
I wonder if it went further into Wycombe in 1851/1861 ? That could well be it if so. I can imagine that any extension would have been filled in recently to facilitate road building.
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 06 June 20 15:16 BST (UK)
I wondered if it was some of the properties to the east of Laura Place and  to the south of Queens Square which are unnamed and adjoining the water??   https://maps.nls.uk/view/104183447#zoom=6&lat=7886&lon=12959&layers=BT   Although the map is 1897 :-\

Kay
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Heatha on Saturday 06 June 20 15:39 BST (UK)
Thank you very much. I think I can see the canal which is now not there. There is a long row of houses on one side very close to Oxford Road.
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 06 June 20 16:05 BST (UK)
This is an earlier map which I think shows the water more clearly - but even fewer streets are named!!
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102340238#zoom=7&lat=9707&lon=3318&layers=BT

Kay
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 06 June 20 16:11 BST (UK)
There might be something here:

https://revivethewye.org.uk/about-the-wye/
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Heatha on Saturday 06 June 20 16:40 BST (UK)
Thank you both. I might have to but the "Silt Road" and read it. I am fairly convinced, from the older map, that I have found Canal Side and the Courts and Yards may be forever lost in the mists of time, I am afraid. One of the comments regarding the Silt Road was " I remember back in the 60′s when they covered the river up down the Oxford Road." That seems to be when it was lost.
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 06 June 20 16:43 BST (UK)
This group might know more:

https://www.highwycombesociety.org.uk/groups/heritage-projects/
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Heatha on Saturday 06 June 20 16:59 BST (UK)
Thank you. I have done so.
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Sc00p on Wednesday 10 June 20 22:58 BST (UK)
From the Bucks Herald 1902
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Heatha on Thursday 11 June 20 20:24 BST (UK)
Thank you very much. That is such interesting reading. It helps me imagine the area much better.
Title: Re: Mysterious address
Post by: Ann of St Omer on Saturday 10 December 22 15:33 GMT (UK)
It did indeed run along what is now called Frogmoor, a road that leads northwards from the Oxford Rd in the town centre to Hughenden. The proof can be found by comparing the names of those listed alongside the "Canal" in the 1851 census, with the 1849 High Wycombe Tithe Map and Apportionments.
The canal would have been formed from the "Hughenden Stream", which still exists, but disappears into a culvert by Morrisons supermarket. It re-emerges opposite the Wycombe Swan theatre, having joined up in the culvert with the River Wye. The river then flows eastwards to Bourne End, where it empties into the River Thames.