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Title: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: wdlocky on Monday 15 June 20 10:50 BST (UK)
Hi

I had a copy of a page from I believe a parramatta girls home which had Ada Gray as being committed in 1917, but I have lost the page or link.

Can someone please look this one up for me, She may have been known as Ada Gertrude Gray and born in 22nd April 1903.  Her parents were Walter Gray and Florence Briar.  Anything on this home or the previous home or her details on her committal.  I also believe she married around 1921 (that's when she left the home).

There was a page from the book that stated she was an "uncontrollable half-caste aboriginal, absconded from home at Cootamundra.

Thanks for your help. :)

I am also looking for any of her siblings details that I Haven't already got.  They may have been born in NSW or Qld.  I have attached a list of them and what details I already have.  I can't find any birth certificates for any of them - but have gone by death certificates to get most of their approximate dates of birth.

Thanks in advance.



Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 15 June 20 13:01 BST (UK)
Have asked the moderator to move your post to the Australian board
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: Dundee on Monday 15 June 20 13:36 BST (UK)
I think you have attached the wrong image, these are the siblings of Walter GRAY.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: Dundee on Monday 15 June 20 13:44 BST (UK)
Did you just want to know where it is?  On Ancestry it is under.....

Directories & Member Lists
School Lists & Yearbooks
New South Wales, Australia, Industrial School Registers, 1867-1925

Strange, I know, but that's Ancestry for you  :P

She was discharged to her grandmother at Yass when she was 18.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: Dundee on Monday 15 June 20 13:51 BST (UK)
Parents both dead in 1917, are you sure Walter was her father?

I also believe she married around 1921 (that's when she left the home).

No, there is no marriage for her.

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: wdlocky on Monday 15 June 20 21:18 BST (UK)
Thanks, sorry siblings of Ada Gray ( walter’s sister Ada, not his daughter ada).

I am struggling to find anything on any of her siblings.  I have death certs of two of her brothers, and also of walter.  I dont have access to ancestry at the moment, hopefully will be able to get back on soon.
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 16 June 20 01:54 BST (UK)
Sorry. I am still confused about what you are seeking.
However, if it is about the children of Walter GRAY and Florence BRIAR, it states on the record for Ada that her parents were both dead

If the certifcate for Walter GRAY that you have is for her father then he must have died between 1902/3 (her birth) and 1917/18 when she was discharged to her grandmother.

On the death certificate, who are the listed children for Walter?

This is an item from the news which refers to   couple Walter and Florrie GRAY in 1902

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/75960271

Sue
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: shume on Tuesday 16 June 20 02:43 BST (UK)
from Ancestry.com.au (you didn't say which brothers you had certs for so am just hoping this fits remembering that death certs aren't always completely accurate)

Name:   Edward Gray
Death Date:   14 Jan 1937
Death Place:   Queensland
Father's name:   Edward John
Mother's name:   Johanna Stanley
Registration Year:   1937
Registration Place:   Queensland
Registration Number:   000357
Page Number:   718
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: majm on Tuesday 16 June 20 02:52 BST (UK)
NSW BDM online index has a birth registered:

11459/1905
Ada May,  mother as FLorence MM GRAY, registered Brewarrina District.

ADD

Two surnames indexed  GRAY  and MORAN.



JM
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: majm on Tuesday 16 June 20 03:04 BST (UK)
Could "Narrua" be handwritten?  If so, could it be "Narran" (so ending with 'n' )

Back in 1890s there was an Out Station in the Berwarrina area named NARRAN.  Near Narran Lake  :) :) :)
Near Walgett North .... County of Finch.

JM
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: majm on Tuesday 16 June 20 03:38 BST (UK)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=831911.0 
re Johanna STANLEY and John William GRAY  it has the pdf  1886 d.c. with Narran NS Wales.

I will ask a moderator to move that thread from the Family History Beginners Board to the Australia Board.

JM
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: majm on Tuesday 16 June 20 04:01 BST (UK)
Further background info here:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=830665.0

JM
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: Jadehayes94 on Sunday 02 October 22 11:26 BST (UK)
I would love to see this paper?? I am her great great granddaughter.
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 03 October 22 00:27 BST (UK)
Hello Jadehayes94
The documents you wish to view are on Ancestry.
 This is the information they contain -

Parramatta Training School
Ada Gray: admitted from Sydney Court 22 May 1917
14 Years 1 month, born 22 April ‘03
A half-caste aboriginal absconded from home at Cootamundra – uncontrollable. Boarded out to Mrs Boden of Moore Park – Absconded.
Parents dead.  Education Poor.   Religion RC


Parramatta Training School
Ada Gray: Admitted 22 May 1917; Discharged 2nd Aug 1921. Discharged when 18 to her grandmother at Yass.

Additional background
https://www.parragirls.org.au/parramatta-girls-home
Title: Re: Ada Gray - parramatta girls home
Post by: Cetera on Friday 07 October 22 17:58 BST (UK)
Hi

I had a copy of a page from I believe a parramatta girls home which had Ada Gray as being committed in 1917, but I have lost the page or link.

Can someone please look this one up for me, She may have been known as Ada Gertrude Gray and born in 22nd April 1903.  Her parents were Walter Gray and Florence Briar.  Anything on this home or the previous home or her details on her committal.  I also believe she married around 1921 (that's when she left the home).

There was a page from the book that stated she was an "uncontrollable half-caste aboriginal, absconded from home at Cootamundra.

Thanks for your help. :)

I am also looking for any of her siblings details that I Haven't already got.  They may have been born in NSW or Qld.  I have attached a list of them and what details I already have.  I can't find any birth certificates for any of them - but have gone by death certificates to get most of their approximate dates of birth.

Thanks in advance.

Ada Gertrude Gray  my great grandmother Parents are Walter Gray 2nd M.and Grace Briar (Florence). M: 16/09/1901
Frederick Albert Hill b1898 in Yass and his sister Violet Florence born 23.4.1900 are mistakenly listed as siblings but are infact the children of Walter Hill  and Grace Florrie Briar. I have no confirmed siblings of Ada Gertrude Gray nor the date she and George William Field were married.
Ada died of cancer of the liver on 13/09/1957 age 54. Buried as Ada Gertrude Bell at Botany General Cemetery Roman Catholic Section 29D grave no. 489.