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Title: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: CanScot on Wednesday 22 July 20 19:49 BST (UK)
Trying to locate John Robbie after 1901 census. He was born on July 27th 1879 in East Hatton, Cargill. His mother was Janet McIntosh and father George Robbie (not married). The 1881 and 1891 census have him living with his grandparents in Coupar Angus. In 1901 he was working on Ardgaith Farm. There is no sign of him on the 1911 census. Any advice would be welcome.
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: DonM on Wednesday 22 July 20 20:32 BST (UK)
This is likely him, matches the birth.

But you can find out by inserting some coin here:

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

ROBBIE JOHN 79 1957 282/1 491 Dundee East

Don
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: CanScot on Thursday 23 July 20 07:19 BST (UK)
I'd previously checked that record and sadly, no, that isn't him.
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: Kloumann on Thursday 23 July 20 09:15 BST (UK)
There is a John Rabbie, age 33, Cortachy & Clova, Angus on 1911 census. Could this be him?

There is also a Marine Returns death of a John Dobbie, age 31, in 1911. Worth checking?
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: CanScot on Thursday 23 July 20 17:34 BST (UK)
Thanks for the suggestions but unfortunately neither is the person I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 23 July 20 18:09 BST (UK)
How sure are you that is your relation on the 1901 census ? Have you traced his mother after he was born ..Is this his full name John McIntosh Robbie born 1879 Cargill ..I can see him with his Grandparents on the 1881 census but not seeing him 1891

Rosie
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: CanScot on Thursday 23 July 20 18:19 BST (UK)
I'm starting to wonder myself. I found him on the 1891 census still living with his grandparents but now I'm not sure about 1901.
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: CanScot on Thursday 23 July 20 18:27 BST (UK)
Should have added, his mother married Thomas Maguire in 1884.
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 23 July 20 18:28 BST (UK)
The John Robbie on the 1901 census has his place of birth as Forfar  a few tree's have his parents
As a David Mitchell Robbie and a Ann Rennie .Did his mother marry in 1884 Cargill what address
Do you have for him 1891 ?

Rosie

Just seen you had added the mothers marriage I thought that was who she married
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: CanScot on Thursday 23 July 20 18:45 BST (UK)
Address is 30 Causewayend, Coupar Angus. He is, however, listed as John McIntosh but still identified as the grandson.
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 23 July 20 19:14 BST (UK)
Do you have his birth certificate saying mentioning the name of his father there is a few tree's with a John Robbie McIntosh birth date 27/7/1879 might just be a coincidence ..This John Robbie McIntosh immigrated to Canada I don't see a birth for a John Robbie McIntosh on Scotland's People 1879 ..maybe he changed his name ?

Rosie
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: CanScot on Thursday 23 July 20 19:33 BST (UK)
Birth certificate lists father as George Robbie. The birthdate is the same 27/7/1879.
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 23 July 20 19:35 BST (UK)
There is a marriage for a John Robbie MacIntosh age 30 occupation ( clerk )
Parents are different father John MacIntosh
Mother Janet McKinley
Spouse Jennie Pawline Pereira
Marriage year 1909
Grey Ontario

This family on the 1911 census Grey North Ontario
John McIntosh age 31 born Scotland birth date July 1879
Religion Presbyterian occupation Porter in Railroad
Immigration year 1904
Jennie McIntosh age 22 ( wife ) born Canada
Robert Thompson lodger born Ireland

Rosie
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: CanScot on Thursday 23 July 20 19:37 BST (UK)
That's the name of the grandparents!

The SP birth record number is 338/00 0022
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 23 July 20 19:52 BST (UK)
Looks like it's the right one then you can view his marriage on www.familysearch.org and a picture of his grave stone just search John Robbie McIntosh

Rosie
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: CanScot on Thursday 23 July 20 19:56 BST (UK)
That's brilliant. Thank you so much for your help. :)
Title: Re: Ardgaith Bothy: John Robbie b1879
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 23 July 20 20:02 BST (UK)
Immigration record
Departure Glasgow
Arrival date 29 August 1904
Montreal Quebec Canada
John McIntosh age 25 birth year 1879
Occupation clerk
Country came from Forfarshire
There was also a James Keiller travelling from same place and same occupation
Ship Sicilian

Rosie