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Title: Where did they live
Post by: ards g on Friday 07 August 20 15:09 BST (UK)
I found the death of my grt grandmother Margaret Gibson 11 Oct 1865 on the certificate it says she was a servants wife ( samuel Gibson Servant as occupation) but just gives place of death as Gilford )
Has anybody any suggestions how I could trace where it was they lived.the death details I found on geanology i.e.
Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: iluleah on Friday 07 August 20 15:38 BST (UK)
 At the edge of Gilford village is Gilford Castle, a mansion but that was built until 1865 https://houseandheritage.org/2019/01/28/gilford-castle/ As one of the villages famous for the Irish linen production  ( the ONLY one left now is in Banbridge) there were/are many mill houses, so protentially her husband could have worked for the Meade family  the lands were passed from the Magill famiy via marriage. You should find records at PRONI about these families who also built property in Dromore ( Gill Hall) https://archiseek.com/2012/gill-hall-dromore-co-down-ireland/

It is likely  if you can find the halls accounts it could protentially tell you who worked/lived there
Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: gaffy on Friday 07 August 20 16:15 BST (UK)
Their address at the time of their son Frances' baptism in 1856 was Brookfield, which I imagine was the one in Drumnagally, presumably they moved NW to Gilford after this:

https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-lower-upper-half/seapatrick/drumnagally/

Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Friday 07 August 20 16:48 BST (UK)
that interesting reply from  iluleah triggered me to check Ros Davies website http://www.rosdavies.com finding that Gilford in the parish of Tullylish  and while I looked for Samuel’s there I found a Dromore reference
Samuel   GIBSON   .   Dromore   son of William Gibson; married Margaret Patterson 23 Dec 1852   CR
Samuel   GIBSON   .   Knockbreda   son of William Gibson; married Mrs. Margaret Gibson (nee Kerr) 19 Aug 1854   CR
Samuel James   GIBSON   .   Newtownards   of Newtownards; a labourer; son of James Gibson (a shoemaker); married Maggie Cameron of Loughriscouse/ Ballyblack 6 Oct 1888 at Ballyblack Presbyterian Church, witnesses were James Kerr & Jane Smyth
Samuel   GIBSON   .   Seapatrick   son of James Gibson; married Margaret Forde 4 Nov 1847   CR

I further understand the Samuel Gibson who m 1852 in Dromore Cathedral was a weaver living in Edentiroory, the son of William Gibson and Margaret Patterson was from Quilly the dau of William Patterson neither could sign the book so they made their marks.

so it could be the clue as the townlands of Quilly and Edentiroory are separated by Greenan townland which sits under the townland of Coolsaggagh where Gill Hall is.  so first look up the marriage and agree the conditions of use on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp 

trusting that it’s a possible clue and now Gaffy adds the bit I missed their child Frances Gibson
good luck onwards
Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: ards g on Friday 07 August 20 19:18 BST (UK)
thank you all for taking time to help.Gaffy the frances gibson the son is my great g/father, he was born 19 Oct 1855 ballyvally banbridge. do you know what church he was baptised in ,i didn't have that information. Ballyaltikilligan  the samuel gibson married to margaret patterson is my great grandfather unfortunatlly margaret patterson seems to be very popular name jn the area.Funny when I was on the road traveling I called with customers in this area in fact often called to brookfield mill to a small company. never realised the significane of the area till now when I started doing family tree
Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 07 August 20 21:52 BST (UK)
At the edge of Gilford village is Gilford Castle, a mansion but that was built until 1865 https://houseandheritage.org/2019/01/28/gilford-castle/ As one of the villages famous for the Irish linen production  ( the ONLY one left now is in Banbridge) there were/are many mill houses...

History of Ferguson's mentioned on their website- (thanks to Kiltaglassan for noticing wrong link which I've now corrected)
https://www.fergusonsirishlinen.com/pages/index.asp?title2=Company-History&title1=About-Us

Clarks of Upperlands in County Londonderry is far older and still in business on the same site-
http://www.wmclark.co.uk/about/
Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: gaffy on Friday 07 August 20 22:54 BST (UK)

thank you all for taking time to help.Gaffy the frances gibson the son is my great g/father, he was born 19 Oct 1855 ballyvally banbridge. do you know what church he was baptised in ,i didn't have that information ...


The transcript I can see indicates that Frances' baptism took place on 8 June 1856 in the First Presbyterian (Non-Subscribing) Church, Church Street. Date of birth was 5 April that year.
Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: iluleah on Saturday 08 August 20 00:36 BST (UK)
At the edge of Gilford village is Gilford Castle, a mansion but that was built until 1865 https://houseandheritage.org/2019/01/28/gilford-castle/ As one of the villages famous for the Irish linen production  ( the ONLY one left now is in Banbridge) there were/are many mill houses...

History of Ferguson's mentioned  on their website-
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

Clarks of Upperlands in County Londonderry is far older and still in business on the same site-
http://www.wmclark.co.uk/about/

I was speaking about all the linen mills now al gone in Co Down!
Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 08 August 20 09:43 BST (UK)
Reply #5

I think aghadowey meant this website.
https://www.fergusonsirishlinen.com/pages/index.asp?title2=Company-History&title1=About-Us

KG


Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Saturday 08 August 20 09:55 BST (UK)
nevertheless the proximity of Gilford Castle to Gill Hall estate is just 8 miles ~ENE by road 
both places offering employment.   Banbridge to Gill Hall as the crow flies about 5 milesNE
Title: Re: Where did they live
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 08 August 20 10:10 BST (UK)
I found the death of my grt grandmother Margaret Gibson 11 Oct 1865 on the certificate it says she was a servants wife ( samuel Gibson Servant as occupation) but just gives place of death as Gilford )
Has anybody any suggestions how I could trace where it was they lived.the death details I found on geanology i.e.

Have you looked at Griffith's Valuation & Valuation Revision Books to see  who they were leasing the property from?
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/Search.aspx

Apparently the village of Gilford covers Loughans, Ballymacanallen and Drumaran townlands (Tullylish civil parish.) Lots of pages to go through inthe Revision books but may allow you to pinpoint an exact property as well as Samuel's employer.