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Title: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: derrygolagh on Monday 24 August 20 15:58 BST (UK)
Hello

Please could anyone help me in tracing the mother of Priscilla Morrisroe?

I believe Priscilla was born in 1820 and died in 1900 and remained unmarried.

I believe her father Patrick Morrisroe  was born 1800 and died 1884.  Probate records show he was a Shopkeeper in Ballinafad Co. Sligo and he left his estate of £150.00 to his Spinster daughter Priscilla.

I have somewhere in my records an Indenture Document where I think it was a Patrick Morrisroe who gave so much money to I think a Patrick Clarke to set him up in business.  I will have to look this up to confirm.

I think all are my relatives.

Any help on this would be very gratefully received.

Thank you very much.

Regards.
Derrygolagh





   
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 24 August 20 16:56 BST (UK)

I believe Priscilla was born in 1820 and died in 1900 and remained unmarried.
 

The only death for a Priscilla Morrisroe on IrishGenealogy is this one (1900)...... she is married (the widow of a farmer). The informant at her death is her daughter, Eliza Heally. The townland is Ballinafad.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05767/4629642.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/sligo/tirerrill/aghanagh/aghanagh/ballinafad/

Her daughter, Eliza married Edward Heally in 1875.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1875/11223/8113936.pdf

KG

Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 24 August 20 17:01 BST (UK)
Linking the probate record.
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014900/005014900_00336.pdf

KG

Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Pennines on Monday 24 August 20 17:08 BST (UK)
There is a death on the Ireland Civil Registration Index for Q/E March 1899 in Boyle Registration District.

(Plenty of records for someone of that name in Ireland Petty Sessions Records, location Ballinafad - I haven't looked at them so it may not be the same person.
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 24 August 20 17:22 BST (UK)
Priscilla's husband Patrick (a farmer) died in 1888 at Faleens. The informant was another daughter Mary Owens.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06183/4767893.pdf

Mary Morrisroe married John Owens in 1886.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10838/5956655.pdf

KG

Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Kloumann on Monday 24 August 20 17:46 BST (UK)
Record of marriage from familysearch

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGJZ-RX6

Record of birth 1859

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGRF-RF2

Record of birth 1862

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGRF-131
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Kloumann on Monday 24 August 20 17:56 BST (UK)
Priscilla had numerous petty sessions court appearances between 1883 & 1885 & again in 1890

This is one

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKSG-2SGW
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Pennines on Monday 24 August 20 18:13 BST (UK)
Yes - I mentioned these in reply 3 -- I have looked at a couple of them. One seems to be for Patrick and Priscilla is a witness. He was charged with having his licensed premises open outside permitted hours.

Then one for Priscilla herself - same reason. There are several though.

Doesn't solve the problem of 'who's the mother' I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 August 20 19:22 BST (UK)
Apologies if this has been posted

Here is the death of Patrick, the shopkeeper - ‘Mauriceroe’  In 1884

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1884/06321/4812609.pdf
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Pennines on Monday 24 August 20 19:31 BST (UK)
So if he died in 1884 aged 65 -- that was possibly Priscilla's brother, if she was born c 1820.
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 August 20 19:34 BST (UK)
The Probate record says she is the daughter and if she was single, she can’t be the one who died in 1899/ 1900
That lady was married to a farmer.
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 August 20 19:45 BST (UK)
There is a published tree which has Patrick Morrisroe married to Priscilla Lillie (variation)

Here is a church marriage for Elizabeth  Morrisroe and Edward Heally in 1875
Her parents are Patrick and Priscilla Lillie
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633853#page/15/mode/1up

Added
Civil marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1875/11223/8113936.pdf
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Pennines on Monday 24 August 20 19:52 BST (UK)
There seems to be something amiss - the original post from derrygolagh - states that Priscilla was born c. 1820 - and her father was thought to be Patrick.

That's why I am confused. The Patrick who died in 1884, aged 65 would have been born c. 1819 - hence likely to be a brother of that Priscilla (if the original information in the first post is correct).
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 24 August 20 19:53 BST (UK)

Added
Civil marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1875/11223/8113936.pdf


See reply #1

Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 August 20 19:59 BST (UK)
That published tree has Priscilla born 1847 but baptisms for that year look to be missing.

A spouse is mentioned but no marriage details - Thadeus McDonagh

There is a baptism of a child - same name 26th September 1879 with the same parents
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633852#page/69/mode/1up
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 August 20 20:01 BST (UK)

Added
Civil marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1875/11223/8113936.pdf


See reply #1

I was thinking that she is the daughter of Patrick and Priscilla and therefore the sister of Priscilla though.
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 August 20 20:03 BST (UK)
There seems to be something amiss - the original post from derrygolagh - states that Priscilla was born c. 1820 - and her father was thought to be Patrick.

That's why I am confused. The Patrick who died in 1884, aged 65 would have been born c. 1819 - hence likely to be a brother of that Priscilla (if the original information in the first post is correct).

Yes I agree it is confusing, Pennines. :)

I am not sure who we are looking for but I thought it was the daughter mentioned in the Probate.
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Pennines on Monday 24 August 20 20:27 BST (UK)
Oh thank you Heywood - it's not just me then. We need clarification from the original poster I think.
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 August 20 21:03 BST (UK)
Here is the birth of Thady Morrisroe - mother Priscilla
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02892/2059581.pdf
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Kloumann on Tuesday 25 August 20 10:06 BST (UK)
I listed two other births on reply#5 Jacobum & Mariam (Latin) with parents Patrick & Priscilla
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: Kloumann on Tuesday 25 August 20 10:16 BST (UK)
Heywood has the death of Patrick, 1884 on reply #8

Present at death was his brother in law, James Lilly, Priscilla's brother.
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 25 August 20 10:21 BST (UK)
Priscilla had numerous petty sessions court appearances between 1883 & 1885 & again in 1890

This is one

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKSG-2SGW

This lady then is perhaps Mrs Priscilla Morrisroe rather than the daughter.

Derrygolagh will hopefully let us know which Priscilla they are looking for - they mention the daughter from the probate  :-\
Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: derrygolagh on Tuesday 25 August 20 14:54 BST (UK)

Hello

Thank you all for your input and help in tracing the mother of Priscilla Morrisroe, I am very grateful. 

It looks now with your help that Patrick Morrisroe, Shopkeeper of Ballinafad, married Priscilla Lillie and they had a daughter Priscilla Morrisroe.

However when I found the Probate record for Patrick Morrisroe in 1884 leaving £150.00 to his Spinster daughter Priscilla, I thought the Legal record would be correct.

That still didn't help me sort out who Priscilla junior's mother was.

I am quite sure now that her parents Patrick Morrisroe and Priscilla Lillie Morrisroe were my three times great grandparents, something I have been trying to confirm for a long time. 

It is all very confusing and I wonder if there have been mistakes on Probate records.

I saw all the Court appearances and understand now why there were so many.  It looks as though as well as being a Shopkeeper, it was a Pub as well!!!!  Looks as though they had after hours drinking every night!!!

Thanks again all for your help.

Kind regards.

Derrygolagh

     

Title: Re: Who was Priscilla Morrisroe's Mother?
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 25 August 20 15:03 BST (UK)
Glad to be of help.
I don’t quite understand though what you mean re the Legal record.
As I see it:
Patrick must have died without a Will, and letters of administration were granted to Priscilla his daughter. She would then have administered the estate. It does not mean that it was left to her. Also, it might not have been £150 in money, it would have been his property - things he owned.