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Title: Michael Joyce/Joice - Little/Great Dunmow
Post by: Emsworthy on Saturday 10 October 20 22:01 BST (UK)
Hello all,

I'm on the lookout for Michael Joyce from Dunmow.  I have one, born c.1681, who was my 8xGt Uncle, who married Elizabeth Clerk.  However, I know there were more - I have seen a marriage in 1719 and also one in 1732, but I can't find baptisms for either of the other Michaels.

I have found a death in 1720 for a Michael Joyce and have linked it so far to 'my' Michael.  However, there must be more possibilities out there!

Any information would be gratefully received!

Many thanks,

Emma
Title: Re: Michael Joyce/Joice - Little/Great Dunmow
Post by: amondg on Sunday 11 October 20 08:06 BST (UK)
I looked at the parish registers it seems not everyone baptized a child or the clerk missed making a record of them.

 
Title: Re: Michael Joyce/Joice - Little/Great Dunmow
Post by: LizzieL on Sunday 11 October 20 10:49 BST (UK)
It looks like the Michael who married Elizabeth Taylor in 1732 had a son also called Michael baptised in 1742 at Dunmow Independent chapel. Maybe Michael snr was also baptised in a non Conformist Chapel and the record hasn't survived or been put on line.
Title: Re: Michael Joyce/Joice - Little/Great Dunmow
Post by: LizzieL on Sunday 11 October 20 11:25 BST (UK)
The marriage you have mentioned in 1719 actually took place on 2 Feb 1719/20. (In the register it appears two months before April 1720.)
As your Michael was buried in October 1720, could there be a possibility that the marriage in feb 1720 was his second one? Do you have  a death date for Elizabeth Joice nee Clerk?

Title: Re: Michael Joyce/Joice - Little/Great Dunmow
Post by: Emsworthy on Sunday 11 October 20 11:27 BST (UK)
Thank you for the replies.  It certainly seems that way!  ::) 

I haven't got any further details on any of them just yet.  The Joyce family are one of my direct lines, but I've only just started branching further out with them.
Title: Re: Michael Joyce/Joice - Little/Great Dunmow
Post by: Emsworthy on Sunday 11 October 20 11:31 BST (UK)
There is an Elizabeth Joice, buried 1st August 1719 in Little Dunmow.  No age given.
Title: Re: Michael Joyce/Joice - Little/Great Dunmow
Post by: LizzieL on Sunday 11 October 20 11:49 BST (UK)
that was the only one I could find as well.

The 1720 marriage was to an Anne Hutchin. The records at that time rarely say whether bride and groom are single or widowed. I can't find an Anne Hutchin or similar in Great Dunmow, maybe she was a widow. I can't find any children for Michael and Anne, so maybe they were of mature age, or Michael died within a few months of marriage.
Title: Re: Michael Joyce/Joice - Little/Great Dunmow
Post by: Emsworthy on Sunday 11 October 20 13:47 BST (UK)
Thank you for taking the time to look.  It seems likely that this could be the case.  Time will tell, I guess!