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Title: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: Eyesee on Saturday 19 December 20 03:29 GMT (UK)
Thomas SHAW married Marcel BERNEY, not sure when or where possibly Suncroft.

Had two known children
Mary Jane SHAW bapt Suncroft 1844 - married Robert HACKETT 1874
John SHAW bapt Suncroft 1849

Were there any more children?

Can anyone find a marriage, or their deaths. The mother is named as Marcel in the children's baptisms but it may not have been her actual name. Believe it could have been Mary.

Many thanks.
Ian C
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 07:25 GMT (UK)
Maybe:
Death - 1896 Marcella Shaw - informant John Shaw
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05906/4676103.pdf

Residence is ‘Erinhills’ which looks the same address as Mary Jane’s marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11245/8124078.pdf

1901 census Ironhills - John Shaw
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Kilrush/Ironhills/1434710/
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 07:28 GMT (UK)
Here is a marriage - 1900 for Thomas Shaw of Iron Hill
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10346/5766513.pdf

His father does not look like Thomas  :-\
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 07:32 GMT (UK)
Just noticed  ::) that the death below Marcella Shaw is Thomas Shaw
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 07:41 GMT (UK)
Calendar of Wills
Thomas Shaw died 1896 - admin to Richard Shaw
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014911/005014911_00236.pdf

Marriage Richard Shaw
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10776/5930115.pdf

1901 census Richard Shaw
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Kildare/Coolaghknock/1440520/
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 19 December 20 10:19 GMT (UK)
Quote from: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 07:25 GMT (UK)

1901 census Ironhills - John Shaw
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Kilrush/Ironhills/1434710/


Ironhills Townland, Civil Parish of Kilrush, Co. Kildare. West of Suncroft townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/kildare/west-offaly/kilrush/kilrush/ironhills/

Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: dathai on Saturday 19 December 20 12:47 GMT (UK)
Christopher Shaw
Marriage 1st to Ellen Harrington 1872
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11297/8144579.pdf

2nd to Mary Darby 1881
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11019/8029142.pdf

died 1888 probate granted to Richard Shaw,Curragh View guardian of the only child a minor
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014908/005014908_00425.pdf

Marcella born 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02762/2014367.pdf

with grandmother Darby 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Kilcullen/Killcullenbridge/1440240/

married John Clarke 1906 in Mullingar
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10137/5688353.pdf

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Grove_Park/65105/

husband died from that address 1912

married 2nd John Healy 1928
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1928/09080/5284725.pdf

lots to be found on the Shaw family in the Kildare Observer
http://archive.irishnewsarchive.com/Olive/APA/KCL.Edu/#panel=home
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: dathai on Saturday 19 December 20 14:25 GMT (UK)
Leonard Clarke married Mary Duggan Gaffrey 1936
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1936/08924/5227811.pdf

Desmond married Sheila Cosgrove 1933
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1933/08980/5250066.pdf

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Longford/Granard_Urban/Main_Street/583700/
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 15:01 GMT (UK)
That’s great, dathai.
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: dathai on Saturday 19 December 20 17:29 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Kilcullen/Killcullenbridge/1440240/

John Darby died 1902

in 1903 Margaret Darby his mother advertised the lands for sale see Kildare Observer

cannot find a death for Margaret

but did find a birth and marriage for a daughter Margaret
1869 number 120
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03411/2250968.pdf

married Thomas J Daly a doctor in 1889
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10734/5913936.pdf

1901 explains why Marcella married in Westmeath
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Multyfarnham/Multyfarnham_Village/1784142/

aah the mother is with her in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Multyfarnham/Ballindurrow/886708/
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: heywood on Sunday 20 December 20 10:00 GMT (UK)
Is this information good for you, Ian. I think you might have missed it.  :)
Title: Re: Thomas SHAW and Marcel BERNEY
Post by: Eyesee on Sunday 20 December 20 18:23 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone for the help.

Much appreciated.

Ian C