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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Nottinghamshire => England => Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: honestlove65 on Thursday 31 December 20 17:58 GMT (UK)
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Hello I'm trying to find my great grandfather's birth and his parents he was Samuel Crossland born 1825 in Sutton in Ashfield according to his death notice and census he married martha massey
Any help would be great thank you.
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Hello,
Could you give details of where you have him - census and marriage especially.
I can’t see that marriage .
There is one to Ruth Kesteven and this couple are in censuses.
Heywood
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Samuel Crosland, bp.2/7/1825 Sutton in Ashfield, son of John and Ann.
He married Ruth Kesteven 3/11/1846.
Annette
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Sorry I got that wrong. He married Ruth kesteven Jan 1838 in Mansfield.
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There you are then - Annette has the marriage :)
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A John Crosland married an Ann Willey on 25 Dec 1823 at St Mary Magdalene, Sutton in Ashfield. Hence these are probably his parents.
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Thank you so very much that's amazing
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Thank you all who helped your very good and kind
Happy New year
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It was a pleasure - and don't hesitate to come back onto Rootschat when you need another pair of eyes!
(By the way are you sure about the marriage year you have given for Samuel at 1838? He would only have been 13 years old unless he was baptised as an older child.)
A Happier New Year to everyone!
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No haha I got it all wrong.. The lady did <p avove she was right 1846
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Aaah --- I take it you have been having a bevy early to bring in the New Year!!
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No just didn't think about what I was putting in message before I sent it without checking my details. Bit like my mouth running before I think haha
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hello im back again i been trying to find john crossland and ann willeys children and any census where i can find where they came from as i had a relative contact me on crossland side her dad is frank crossland who married a margaret ann smith this lady is my second cousin ancestry says but im so blind on this side as i have no family to ask . so im struggling to find the connection .thank you
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Hello :)
Just to get you going..... I have this family in our tree, but not a direct line.
1841 - Piece 861 / Book 7 / Folio 10 / Page number 12
Smedleys Buildings, Sutton in Ashfield.
Ann Crossland is with children Ellen, Willey & Rebecca
John Crossland died in 1840 and was buried at Sutton in Ashfield 17 July 1840
Nottingham Review and General Advertiser for the Midland Counties 24 July 1840
At Sutton in Ashfield, on the 15th inst, after a painful illness, age 40, Mr. John Crossland.
Ann is here in 1851....
1851 - HO107/ Piece number 2123 / Folio 360 / Page 15
74, King Street, Sutton in Ashfield
She was born in Sutton in Ashfield and buried at Sutton on May 4, 1876
Burial aged 73 - abode Kirkby Parish
Added .....
1861 - Piece 2426 / Folio 7 /Page 8 - King Street, Sutton in Ashfield.
1871 - Piece 3469 / Folio 83 / Page 15 - Swan Street, Sutton in Ashfield
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The Notts FHS CD has the following baptisms, all at St Mary Magdalene in Sutton in Ashfield. Parents of all are John and Ann or Anne:
1824 06 06 Sarah CROSSLAND
1825 07 02 Samuel CROSLAND
1827 07 28 Ellen CROSLAND
1830 02 14 Willey CROSLAND
1832 01 15 Rebecca CROSSLAND
Father's occupation for all except Willey was Joiner (FWK for Willey's baptism).
These are the Crossland burials, with ages, listed in the same church:
1839 10 23 Sarah CROSSLAND 15
1840 07 17 John CROSLAND 40
1874 07 08 Samuel CROSSLAND 49 Swan Yd
1876 05 04 Ann CROSSLAND 73 Kirkby parish
If your contact is a second cousin, that means that you share a gt-grandparent, so it's (very!) likely that the link, if it exists, will be more recent than that --possibly much more recent! But Ancestry hints and links have to be taken with a pinch of salt and you are right to investigate it rather than just to accept it.
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Thank you so much thats very helpful..if i need help to find other familys do i look for forum with the same names on or can you just carry on from where you are ..?
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Just click Forum and tab down the page for the county concerned.
Click on the county.
If it is a different family than your Crosland/Crossland one - start a new topic by clicking 'New Topic' at the right hand side of that Forum Page.
(I hope that is clear -- if not just come back to us.)
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hello im back again i been trying to find john crossland and ann willeys children and any census where i can find where they came from as i had a relative contact me on crossland side her dad is frank crossland who married a margaret ann smith this lady is my second cousin ancestry says but im so blind on this side as i have no family to ask . so im struggling to find the connection .thank you
Do you have details from your contact about these people?
The only marriage I can see which might be this couple is 1968 where the lady has a different surname. There is a previous marriage for her though which gives her the correct surname.
It is not in Nottinghamshire either. :-\
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Yes, we definitely need some details of Frank Crossland and his wife to be able to help you. When/where was he born?
Annette
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Now I'm trying to see if there's a connection between Samuel Crossland and Frank Crossland was born in Sheffield 1947 his mother's maiden name is Stanley. As I'm trying to find Frank's parents to see the connection.
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If you use the link below, it will take you to a page where you can search for Frank's baptism. There was a possible baptism in 1947 and the parents names are given.
http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/ParishBaptismIndex.html
Those parents married in Sheffield in 1944 and there was another possible birth in Sheffield in 1945. I'm not giving details as we are venturing onto the territory of likely living people but details are easily found on freebmd.
The problem is that we don't know the age of Frank's father when he married, so can't narrow down his birth and be extension, his lineage. I think you would need confirmation from the Crossland/Stanley marriage certificate of the groom's father's name to take this forward with certainty.
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thank you for your reply i have found them all ..your very helpful.
just wondering though if your looking for other people do i saty on this part or do i look under the place and names im looking for .regards mandy
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I've followed the line of Frank Crossland born 1947 Sheffield:
Father Charles Frank Crossland born 1927, son John Thomas Crossland
John Thomas Crossland born 1902, son of Frank Crossland
Frank Crossland born 1876, son of Thomas Crossland
Thomas Crossland (birth reg'd Tom) born 1850, son of Jonathan Crossland
Jonathan Crossland bp.26/12/1817 Ecclesfield, Yorkshire, son of George (a Nailer) and Elizabeth
George Crossland bp.16/2/1779 Ecclesfield, son of Robert (residence Grenoside)
Robert Crossland born ?, bur.11/1/1780 Ecclesfield (residence Grenoside)
Following Frank's line relatively easy - however, his line seems firmly rooted in Yorkshire (specifically in Ecclesfield) going back to a Robert born unknown who died in 1780 Ecclesfield.
Although Ecclesfield and Sutton in Ashfield are only 34 miles apart (as the crow flies) I cannot see a link between Samuel's family and Frank's.
Annette