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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: wilcoxon on Friday 05 February 21 16:32 GMT (UK)
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I have Joseph Socks birth registration on Ancestry and Freebmd. 1874 Dec quarter 1874.
6d 723. Oswestry
I can't find him on the GRO index.
I have a Joseph Sacks, father Joseph, mother Caroline in later census, similer birth year born Oswestry.
I cant find a marriage for the parents so am trying to find MMN from GRO
Can anyone help please.
Joseph snr was born in Germany,.
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FindMyPast has the baptism (Methodist) image giving Caroline's name as Caroline Keeler. :-\
Registration entry looks like 6a and not 6d; not sure if that helps though.
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If Joseph senior was born in Germany it is possible his surname was Sachs.
Emeltom
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I agree, but in the newspapers, the census and both his and Carolines death they are Sacks.
There is a Keeler family in Oswestry, but the names are transcribed badly in some records.
No Caroline found so far, she was born Oswestry c 1848
I'm not finding any marriage for a Caroline Keeler at all.
This is a difficult one.
Thanks Nanny Jan, so far I've not found another child of Caroline and Joseph to check.
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It sounds like a few of my lines; they said they were married but..........
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Hi,
You could order the birth certificate from the local BMD project group - Shropshire BMD (rather than the GRO). Their local records show mothers maiden name as Kehler and their reference being B-OSW-OSW/20/308
See Shropshirebmd/info for more details - cost of the certificate if required is £11.
Alan
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1851, George and Elizabeth Keeley, both born Germany have daughter Caroline.
They are Keeler and Kehler in different records.
Thank, I think thats cracked it.
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1851, George and Elizabeth Keeley, both born Germany have daughter Caroline.
They are Keeler and Kehler in different records.
Thank, I think thats cracked it.
Oh dear, this Caroline is born Cheshire. 🙁
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Hi,
There are several trees on Ancestry showing the family and they generally suggest George and Elizabeth had 6 children -
Caroline born Congleton, Cheshire
Margaret born Mold Flintshire
Elizabeth born Oswestry Shropshire
George also born Oswestry
Louisa - ditto
Alice - ditto
Concerning the father George, he seemed to move the family around - In 1851 (shown as Keeley) an Ag Lab in Wrexham, Denbighshire; In Oswestry a Labourer in 1861 (shown as Keelan); Same in 1871 (shown as Kehler); In 1881 A scavenger (widower - shown as Kebler)
In the 1861 census "Caroline" is aged 12 and named as Catharine - all the family shown as born Oswestry.
Hope this helps
Alan
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Hi,
Have just found an entry on FreeBMD which I think could be Caroline's birth -
Mar Qtr 1849 Caroline Kaler - Congleton Vol 19 Page 91
Alan
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Hi,
There are several trees on Ancestry showing the family and they generally suggest George and Elizabeth had 6 children -
Caroline born Congleton, Cheshire
Margaret born Mold Flintshire
Elizabeth born Oswestry Shropshire
George also born Oswestry
Louisa - ditto
Alice - ditto
Concerning the father George, he seemed to move the family around - In 1851 (shown as Keeley) an Ag Lab in Wrexham, Denbighshire; In Oswestry a Labourer in 1861 (shown as Keelan); Same in 1871 (shown as Kehler); In 1881 A scavenger (widower - shown as Kebler)
In the 1861 census "Caroline" is aged 12 and named as Catharine - all the family shown as born Oswestry.
Hope this helps
Alan
Thanks, I had spotted this family , and thought about Catherine being Caroline.
I'll take a look at the trees.
I have a "gut" feeling Joseph and are his family in Wrexham in 1881, but they are all born Wrexham and transcribed as Jacks. Not found later.
I have Carolines death in Wrexham, and. her sons marriage,
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Hi,
Have just found an entry on FreeBMD which I think could be Caroline's birth -
Mar Qtr 1849 Caroline Kaler - Congleton Vol 19 Page 91
Alan
Mmn Utterbainin ::)