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Title: James Hughes (?1840-1913) Adavoyle, Armagh
Post by: electricmetaleptic on Tuesday 16 February 21 15:03 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
I'm in need of some help with more details on my GG Grandfather, James Hughes. I cannot confidently trace the line back further than him.

We know he came from Adavoyle (Aghadavoyle/Achadh an Dá Mhaoil).

I expect he is one or both of the James Hugheses listed in these censuses from 1901 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Jonesborough/Adavoyle/1033734/) and 1911 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Jonesborough/Aghadavoyle/304045/).

He was also very likely the James Hughes who married Julia Susan Kelly (1854–1896) on Sept 29 1870. (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632567#page/111/mode/1up)

One parish register from nearby Killeavy Lower lists a James Hughes (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632500#page/59/mode/1up), baptised 4 Mar 1840, son of a Patrick Hughes and Mary Gartlan.


Any insights would be appreciated!
Thank you,
M
Title: Re: James Hughes (?1840-1913) Adavoyle, Armagh
Post by: patrick_a on Thursday 18 February 21 10:38 GMT (UK)
 I would suggest this website as a good place to start for Irish Genealogy:
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/

You mentioned the townland:
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-upper/killevy-upper-orior-portion/aghadavoyle/
You can now check the tithe applotment for 1834-1835 in the parish:
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/armagh/tithe-applotments/killevy-parish.php
You can verify against the 1864 record:
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/armagh/griffiths-valuation/killevy-parish.php
You can then check the land revision records from 1865-1929:
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books

The James Hughes who died in 1912 did leave a will.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05346/4489356.pdf
You can find the will on PRONI:
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx

The marriage record in 1870 does list his father was Patrick Hughes.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11391/8182540.pdf

Everything seems very consistent with your findings. I would suggest checking out the original tithe applotment records on PRONI and track the land until 1929; the will indicates that it goes to his son Patrick.
Title: Re: James Hughes (?1840-1913) Adavoyle, Armagh
Post by: electricmetaleptic on Thursday 18 February 21 14:19 GMT (UK)
Patrick, thank you so much!
The 1913 will is new to me.

Very much appreciative,
M

I would suggest this website as a good place to start for Irish Genealogy:
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/

You mentioned the townland:
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-upper/killevy-upper-orior-portion/aghadavoyle/
You can now check the tithe applotment for 1834-1835 in the parish:
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/armagh/tithe-applotments/killevy-parish.php
You can verify against the 1864 record:
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/armagh/griffiths-valuation/killevy-parish.php
You can then check the land revision records from 1865-1929:
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books

The James Hughes who died in 1912 did leave a will.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05346/4489356.pdf
You can find the will on PRONI:
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx

The marriage record in 1870 does list his father was Patrick Hughes.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11391/8182540.pdf

Everything seems very consistent with your findings. I would suggest checking out the original tithe applotment records on PRONI and track the land until 1929; the will indicates that it goes to his son Patrick.
Title: Re: James Hughes (?1840-1913) Adavoyle, Armagh
Post by: JessieJessie on Saturday 05 June 21 12:33 BST (UK)
Hi, I am tracing my Hughes family ancestors from Armagh and would like to compare notes.  I think the James Hughes of Armagh mentioned could possibly be my 2GG.  I think that his father was Patrick.  The wife of James was Mary Cullen.  Their son, John, was my great grandfather.  (Other children include another John who passed as a child, Mary, Catherine, and Edward...). I am still sorting out the details but am hoping to connect with others who are researching the same family.
Best regards,
Jessie
Title: Re: James Hughes (?1840-1913) Adavoyle, Armagh
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 23 July 24 07:14 BST (UK)
I know this is an old thread - but from familysearch I know that Thomas Stanton from Liverpool a Cunard Liner Porter married Theresa Hughes from ADAVOYLE ..on census in Liverpool Thomas is b 1878 Liverpool - Theresa Hughes is born Adavoyle 1880 - do either of you have a Theresa Hughes in your tree ?????- thanks for reading  :)
Title: Re: James Hughes (?1840-1913) Adavoyle, Armagh
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 23 July 24 08:18 BST (UK)
I know this is an old thread - but from familysearch I know that Thomas Stanton from Liverpool a Cunard Liner Porter married Theresa Hughes from ADAVOYLE ..on census in Liverpool Thomas is b 1878 Liverpool - Theresa Hughes is born Adavoyle 1880 - do either of you have a Theresa Hughes in your tree ?????- thanks for reading  :)
Does the marriage not list the name and occupation of her father?
Possible birth- Teressa born 13 Sept.1877 at Adavoil- parents Stephen Hughes & Teressa Hanlon-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02991/2096319.pdf
Title: Re: James Hughes (?1840-1913) Adavoyle, Armagh
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 23 July 24 08:31 BST (UK)
Thank you Agadowhey - I will look in to that now - appreciated ...xx
Title: Re: James Hughes (?1840-1913) Adavoyle, Armagh
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 23 July 24 08:37 BST (UK)
Does the marriage not list the name and occupation of her father?