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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: thedownman93 on Tuesday 16 February 21 18:47 GMT (UK)
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My 4 times great grandmother Mary McCloskey married Richard Hegarty, died on 14 August 1874. I have no information on her date of birth. I'm not sure if she would be related to Patrick McCloskey, his son would be Cardinal John McCloskey.
My grandad was born in Feeny, not far from where Patrick McColskey was born. If anyone could help find other information for Mary McCloskey i would appreciate it
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Hey there,
We might need a little more information to help out in your search. How do you know Mary McCloskey married Richard Hegarty? Have you seen a record which confirms this? What religion would the couple have been?
If you can fill us in a little more about the information you've already seen and where you've seen it then we might be able to help you out. :)
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Hi, apologies here but Richard Hegarty was the son (my mistake). Her husband is William Hegarty, born about 1802 and died 17th July 1892, aged 90 (Oville Dungiven). They may have been buried at Dungiven, I havent had a chance to look at the graves yet. I think there may be a conection with Patrick McCloskey.
I just can't find infomration on Mary's DOB.
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If you have an 1892 death record for William Hegarty that should list him as either a husband or a widower. That will tell you whether or not Mary predeceased him. You can then use that information to narrow down a search for her death record - that's normally my starting point with these kind of searches.
Depending on how old Richard was when he died, his estimated birth year should give you a rough upper limit on her death date. If she predeceased William then that gives you the lower limit. If she outlived him, then that gives you an upper limit of 1892, and a much smaller window you need to search in to find her death record.
Provided Mary died after the introduction of civil death registration, there should be a record that at least gives you an estimated age from which you can work out a rough birth date. Assuming she was a) catholic and b) born roughly contemporary with her husband, there may not be an actual paper record of her birth.
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Hello there. Mary McCloskey and William Hegarty are my husband's grt grt grandparents. Richard's daughter Elizabeth married Frank McCloskey(ROE), my husband's grandparents. I have been reliably told they are buried in the Old Priory Graveyard in Dungiven but sadly the graveyard is not maintained. The graves are covered in moss and most are illegible. Their son Richard Hegarty and his wife Mary Ann are buried in St. Patrick's RC Church, Dungiven. Do you know what Mary McCloskey's family nickname was as that is a big plus in the Dungiven area when identifying the McCloskey name? Mary McCloskey was an only child and William Hegarty came from Newtownstewart in Co.Tyrone. They had 5 children.
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Hello and welcome to RootsChat :)
You don't give any dates but this presumably is the marriage of Lizzie Hegarty in 1914.
Richard's daughter Elizabeth married Frank McCloskey(ROE), my husband's grandparents.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09863/5582329.pdf
If it is, then here's Lizzie in the 1911 census.
Residents of a house 6 in Ovil (Dungiven, Londonderry).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Dungiven/Ovil/594996/
Ovil townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/dungiven/dungiven/ovil/
KG
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Frank and Lizzie McCloskey had seven children born up to 1920, including twins born in 1917.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qlz/
First child Frank died in 1915 aged two months.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05268/4462186.pdf
KG
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Hi
A family member was able to gather some information for me, I only have details of Mary's McCloskey's death in 1874, thats all I have on the McCloskeys. Elizabeth's sister, Mary Anna married a Robert Hampson. The Hampsons moved to Scotland then came back to Derry, Annie Hampson my great grandmother was born in Scotland.
Arthur Mulhern my granffather, was brought up in Feeny. It says there are some McCloskeys living in Feeny in the 1901 & 1911 cenus. That could be a contection to Mary McCloskey, not sure what year Mary was born in. I did not know that William Hegarty was from Tryone. Most of my family from my mother's side were brought up in Derry
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Elizabeth's sister, Mary Anna married a Robert Hampson. The Hampsons moved to Scotland then came back to Derry, Annie Hampson my great grandmother was born in Scotland.
Here's the link to the marriage in 1904. Mary's sister Lizzie was one of the witnesses?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10214/5717736.pdf
Mary Ann living at Derrychrier townland, which borders Ovil.
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/banagher-keenaght-portion/owenreagh/derrychrier/
That could be a contection to Mary McCloskey, not sure what year Mary was born in.
Mary Ann, Lizzie's sister, born 25th August 1880 at Ovil. MMN Magilligan?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02866/2050030.pdf
Mary with her family in 1901 census in Ovil.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Dungiven/Ovil/1524099/
KG
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Thanks, I have some for Richard Hegarty's family. I was talking about Richard's mother Mary Hegarty (Mc Closkey)
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Thank you. All your research is much appreciated.
I was aware of the twins who died in infancy but could not find a death certificate for them.
It is with Mary McCloskey Ovil, an only child, who died in 1874 that I have hit a brick wall. She married William Hegarty who was born in 1802 and died in 1892.
She inherited house/land in which they lived from her McCloskey father/mother.
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I was aware of the twins who died in infancy but could not find a death certificate for them.
Ellen McCloskey died aged 3 months on 28th May.
Mary Ann McCloskey died aged 3 months on 6th June.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05210/4440733.pdf
KG
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My 4 times great grandmother Mary McCloskey married Richard Hegarty, died on 14 August 1874. I have no information on her date of birth. I'm not sure if she would be related to Patrick McCloskey, his son would be Cardinal John McCloskey.
My grandad was born in Feeny, not far from where Patrick McColskey was born.
I'm not sure if I've missed some info. but would it not be an idea to get the marriage record for Mary McCloskey to find out who her father was & his occ. to work from before trying to incorporate possible relatives?
Annie
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To date, I have had no success in obtaining their marriage certificate.
Probably down to my lack of skill in this area. Very often it comes down to luck whether I source a certificate or not and other times I find them without any effort.
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I'm not sure if I've missed some info. but would it not be an idea to get the marriage record for Mary McCloskey to find out who her father was & his occ. to work from before trying to incorporate possible relatives?
William Hegarty born c1802 according to his death certificate-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06030/4717184.pdf
Civil registration of Catholic marriages didn't begin until 1864. I can't see Mary's death registration at the moment but I suspect then marriage was well before 1864, in which case you'd need to search church registers. Many are online but dates covered vary. However, early registers don't usually list details of parents.
https://registers.nli.ie/
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Thank you. All your research is much appreciated.
I was aware of the twins who died in infancy but could not find a death certificate for them.
It is with Mary McCloskey Ovil, an only child, who died in 1874 that I have hit a brick wall. She married William Hegarty who was born in 1802 and died in 1892.
She inherited house/land in which they lived from her McCloskey father/mother.
NP, I looked up hegarty's in Newtownstewart in 1901, they all come up as protestants. I can't find any catholics in the area. Strange, William Hegarty was a catholic? just curious
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I'm not sure if I've missed some info. but would it not be an idea to get the marriage record for Mary McCloskey to find out who her father was & his occ. to work from before trying to incorporate possible relatives?
A cousin was able to help find some, it was hard to find the rest
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William was probably a Protestant as that is the only records I could find for Hegarty's in Newtownstewart. Subsequently, the only way I can know we are dealing with the right person is to obtain Mary and William's marriage certificate. Is visiting PRONI offices in Belfast the only way I am going to source this certificate?
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When would William & Mary have gotten married? If before civil registration (1864 for Catholic marriages or from 1845 for non-Catholic marriages) then the only record will be from a church register (if it survives) but remember that not all records are online.
How do you know that William Hegarty came from Newtownstewart area? He might have come from outside the area and married a local girl or came with his wife to the area.
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That Mary is from Ovil Dungiven and that she married William Hegarty from Newtownstewart is information that has been handed down orally.
There is a quarry near to Ovil - Altmover Quarry which had stone of fine quality and used in many substantial buildings. William may have come for work as a stonemason.
His son Richard was employed as a skilled stonemason. A stone in Derrychrier Bridge near my home bears Richards name.
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That Mary is from Ovil Dungiven and that she married William Hegarty from Newtownstewart is information that has been handed down orally.
There is a quarry near to Ovil - Altmover Quarry which had stone of fine quality and used in many substantial buildings. William may have come for work as a stonemason.
His son Richard was employed as a skilled stonemason. A stone in Derrychrier Bridge near my home bears Richards name.
Many thanks again, I will have a look at some time
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Are there two posters here or one who seems to be double posting? Thedownman93 and BMcM often have identical posts. If there are two different posters that is fine but if not is there a reason for the double posting?
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Are there two posters here or one who seems to be double posting? Thedownman93 and BMcM often have identical posts. If there are two different posters that is fine but if not is there a reason for the double posting?
Hi, sorry it that was the case, I was just trying to gather information, I dont mean to be repeated myself
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That Mary is from Ovil Dungiven and that she married William Hegarty from Newtownstewart is information that has been handed down orally.
Do you know what part of Newtownstewart he was from?
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Hi
A family member was able to gather some information for me, I only have details of Mary's McCloskey's death in 1874, thats all I have on the McCloskeys. Elizabeth's sister, Mary Anna married a Robert Hampson. The Hampsons moved to Scotland then came back to Derry, Annie Hampson my great grandmother was born in Scotland.
Arthur Mulhern my granffather, was brought up in Feeny. It says there are some McCloskeys living in Feeny in the 1901 & 1911 cenus. That could be a contection to Mary McCloskey, not sure what year Mary was born in. I did not know that William Hegarty was from Tryone. Most of my family from my mother's side were brought up in Derry
Hi @thedownman93, I think your grandad Arthur and my grandmother are siblings. I'm not sure how this forum works but could you message me back?