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Title: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: roycymru on Thursday 18 February 21 22:33 GMT (UK)
Hello

Looking for full details of the attached so I can prove her parentage. Think is relates to Sarah Ann Bowen (nee Rees).  Hoping her parents are listed as John Rees and Margaret Evans? If so, others on Ancestry have her marrying William Joshua Bowen 08 Sep 1882 in Blossburg, Tioga, Pennsylvania.

Thank you
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 18 February 21 22:52 GMT (UK)
Sarah Ann Bowen Age:   75
Birth 22 Sep 1858
Birth Place: Llandy Wales
Death 6 Jun 1934, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA
Father:   John Reese born Wales
Mother:   Margret Evans born Wales
Spouse:   Wm J Bowen
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 18 February 21 22:56 GMT (UK)
1934 burial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/116878696/sarah-ann-bowen
You can view full certificate of death
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: roycymru on Friday 19 February 21 09:56 GMT (UK)
Excellent! Thank you.
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: jomcd967 on Friday 19 February 21 10:02 GMT (UK)
This looks like her birth registration, GRO ref: 1858, Dec qtr in Carmarthen, Vol 11a, Page 545, MMN Evans.

Possible census..
1861 Wainfawr, Llangendeirne, Carmarthen
John Rees, 33, farmer of 45 acres, b. Llangendeirne
Margaret Rees, 32, farmers wife, ditto
Sarah Ann Rees, dau, ditto

A marriage at Llangendeirne, 27 Feb 1857
John Rees, full age, bachelor, farmer, of Llangendeirne, father Walter Rees, father married Margaret Evans, full age, spinster, of Cilcarw Fawr, father Stephen Evans, farmer.
John Rees x, Margaret Evans signed, witnessed by Stephen Evans & Thomas Jones.

Jo  :)
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: jomcd967 on Friday 19 February 21 10:02 GMT (UK)
Do you know when Sarah Ann left Wales?
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: jomcd967 on Friday 19 February 21 10:27 GMT (UK)
1871 Cilarw, Langyndeyn, Carmarthen
John Rees, 42, farmer of 44 acres
Margaret Rees, 41
Anne Rees, 12

1881 Waunfawr, Llangendeirne, Carmarthen
John Rees, 54, farmer of 44 acres
Margaret Rees, 53
Ann Rees, 22, dressmaker
Mary Griffiths, 6, granddaughter

According to 1900 US census, Sarah Ann arrived in USA in 1882, she married the same year.

Who is Mary Griffiths?

Jo  :)
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: jomcd967 on Friday 19 February 21 10:34 GMT (UK)
First name(s)   Mary Margaret
Last name   Griffiths
Birth quarter   4
Birth year   1875
Mother's maiden name   Rees
District   Carmarthen
County   Carmarthenshire
Country   Wales
Volume   11A
Page   822
Record set   England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category   Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory   Civil Births
Collections from   Great Britain, Wales
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 19 February 21 10:37 GMT (UK)
Roy not sure if you have seen this info.........

US 1900 census William & Sarah Bowen
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M34X-YCK

US 1910 census William & Sarah
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGH8-M87

1901 marriage of dau Margaret
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFSF-XGN

US 1930 Sarah living with her married son 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHHZ-GD5

William Joshua Bowen age 71, married, Farmer
Birth    9 Apr 1851
Birth Place:   Blossburg
Death 3 Mar 1923 Charleston, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA
Father:   Joshua Bowen
Mother:   Diana Evans

William Bowen with parents Joshua & Diana
US 1860 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXT8-G2BUS
US 1870 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ2N-FSD
US 1880 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWVF-18C

Burial of Joshua & Diana Bowen
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/109939975/joshua-bowen
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: roycymru on Friday 19 February 21 10:39 GMT (UK)
Hi

She must have emigrated 1881-1882. She is still with her parents in the UK 1881 census at Waunfawr but under her middle name Ann. The gravestone link provided earlier has her marrying William J. Bowen on 8 Sep 1882 in Blossburg, Pennsylvania.

1881 at Waunfawr

John Rees, Head, 54, Farmer of 44 acres
Margaret Rees (nee Evans), wife, 53
Ann Rees, Dau, 22, dressmaker,
Mary Griffiths, G. Dau. 6

Mary Griffiths actually Mary Ann Griffiths (1875-1897) is the daughter of Joseph Griffiths (1854-1903) and Sarah Ann Rees’s sister Margaret Evans (1854-1877).

John Rees is listed as Margaret Evans’s father (although her surname is Evans) on her marriage certificate to Joseph Griffiths. I and others have searched but not been able to find Margaret Evans birth record. She is actually listed as born Merthyr Tydfil. The assumption is she was conceived out of wedlock and her mother Margaret was “sent away” during the pregnancy to unknown relatives in Merthyr and gave birth to her daughter Margaret there.

Joseph Griffiths is my 2nd great uncle.



Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 10:45 GMT (UK)
Will post the obits for the Bowen family, they are interesting to have and the US ones show lots of details.

Obit - Sarah Ann Rees/Bowen

The Wellsboro Gazette Combined with Mansfield Advertiser Wellsboro, Pennsylvania
13 Jun 1934, Wed    Page 1

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461435/sarah-ann-bowen-13-june-1934/

Star-Gazette Elmira, New York
9 Jun 1934, Sat    Page 13

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461468/obituary-for-sarah-ann-evans-aged-75/

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 10:51 GMT (UK)
Obit - son Roy Stephen Bowen -

Mansfield Advertiser Mansfield, Pennsylvania 21 Sep 1966, Wed    Page 2

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461484/obituary-for-roy-s-bowen-1898-1966/


FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/115408264/roy-stephen-bowen

Wife Hazel - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/115408289/hazel-rose-bowen

Daughter - Marie Ann Bowen Wallace

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/145883554/marie-ann-wallace

husband of Maria - Donald Adair Wallace.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/145883363/donald-adair-wallace

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: roycymru on Friday 19 February 21 10:51 GMT (UK)
People have been busy responding while I was typing up my post. Thank you for all the excellent info. Mary Ann Griffiths is buried with her mother and a sister Margaret Ann, who died young, at Caersalem, Pontyberem (see attached)
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: roycymru on Friday 19 February 21 10:52 GMT (UK)
The attached!!
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 10:52 GMT (UK)
Obit for the wife of Roy Stephen Bowen.

Star-Gazette Elmira, New York 15 Jun 1993, Tue    Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461506/obituary-for-hazel-r-english-bowen/

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 10:56 GMT (UK)

son of Sarah and William  - Jay N Bowen

Star-Gazette Elmira, New York 12 Apr 1966, Tue    Page 14

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461533/obituary-for-jay-n-bowen-aged-81/

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 10:58 GMT (UK)

son of Jay N Bowen (as above) and Gertrude

Star-Gazette Elmira, New York 31 Jan 1990, Wed    Page 12

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461567/obituary-for-gordon-bowen-norman/

Sandra

Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 11:00 GMT (UK)

daughter of Jay N Bowen and Gertrude

The Tennessean Nashville, Tennessee 8 Feb 2015, Sun    Page A13

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461583/obituary-for-faye-irene-bowen-aged-70/

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 11:06 GMT (UK)

daughter of Sarah Ann and William Bowen - Margaret Apgar

Star-Gazette Elmira, New York
28 Aug 1961, Mon    Page 3

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461633/obituary-for-margaret-ann-apgar-aged/

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 11:08 GMT (UK)
Monta Apgar - husband of the above Margaret Bowen/Apgar

Star-Gazette Elmira, New York
30 Nov 1981, Mon    Page 22

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461645/obituary-for-monta-apgar-aged-102/

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: jomcd967 on Friday 19 February 21 11:16 GMT (UK)
Have you ruled out this birth for Margaret?
Margaret Rees, GRO ref: 1856, M qtr, Vol 11a, Page 592, MMN Evans?

Jo  :)
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 11:22 GMT (UK)
Sarah A Reese -  New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists - Sarah A Reece - 1859 and aged 23 years - Arrival Date 29 Mar 1882
Port of Departure Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Port of Arrival New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Arizona

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 11:35 GMT (UK)


Maria Ann Bowen Wallace - daughter of Roy and Hazel

Obit - The Los Angeles Times Los Angeles, California 25 Mar 2006, Sat   Page 183

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71461953/obituary-for-marie-ann-wallace-bowen/

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 19 February 21 11:36 GMT (UK)

Mary Griffiths actually Mary Ann Griffiths (1875-1897) is the daughter of
Joseph Griffiths (1854-1903) and Sarah Ann Rees’s sister Margaret Evans (1854-1877).

John Rees is listed as Margaret Evans’s father (although her surname is Evans) on her marriage certificate to Joseph Griffiths.

I and others have searched but not been able to find Margaret Evans birth record.

She is actually listed as born Merthyr Tydfil.


Have you ruled out this birth for Margaret?

Margaret Rees, GRO ref: 1856, M qtr, Vol 11a, Page 592, MMN Evans?


Where do you have her listed as born Merthyr Tydfil?

There is this birth entry on GRO indexes

EVANS, MARGARET   mmn EVANS
1854  M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 253   

Just adding these details so others can see

Margaret EVANS, f/a, single father John REES, farmer
18 Apr 1874 Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Spouse:   Joseph GRIFFITHS f/a blacksmith father William, Sawyer
she signed her name as Margaret Evans
Witnesses Edwin Griffith & Daniel ?avies

Is this her parents marriage?

John REES, farmer, father Walter, farmer
Marriage 27 Feb 1857 Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Spouse:   Margaret EVANS, father Stephen, farmer
John & Margaret made their mark
Witnesses Stephen Evans & Thomas ?
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 11:37 GMT (UK)

The Los Angeles Times Los Angeles, California 7 Aug 2009, Fri    Page 20

Donald Adair Wallace - husband of Maria Ann Bowen Wallace.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/67243684/obituary-for-donald-adair-wallace/

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 19 February 21 11:44 GMT (UK)


Verne William Bowen - another son of Roy and Hazel Bowen -

FIND A GRAVE

Welsh Settlement Cemetery Charleston, Tioga County, Pennsylvania

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/116875939/verne-william-bowen

Star-Gazette Elmira, New York 31 Aug 1995, Thu   Page 5

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/71462113/obituary-for-verne-w-bowen-aged-65/

Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: roycymru on Friday 19 February 21 11:47 GMT (UK)
Have you ruled out this birth for Margaret?
Margaret Rees, GRO ref: 1856, M qtr, Vol 11a, Page 592, MMN Evans?

Jo  :)

Thanks. Not convinced on this one as it is 2 years too late. I and others have made inquires with the registry offices in Carmarthen and Merthyr for suitable births around 1854 and found no matches. I think registration only became a legal requirement in the 1870s, so she/her family may well have decided bot to register the birth. The Evans family were very religious, so maybe not too surprising that they decided not to officially register the birth
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: roycymru on Friday 19 February 21 12:36 GMT (UK)

Mary Griffiths actually Mary Ann Griffiths (1875-1897) is the daughter of
Joseph Griffiths (1854-1903) and Sarah Ann Rees’s sister Margaret Evans (1854-1877).

John Rees is listed as Margaret Evans’s father (although her surname is Evans) on her marriage certificate to Joseph Griffiths.

I and others have searched but not been able to find Margaret Evans birth record.

She is actually listed as born Merthyr Tydfil.


Have you ruled out this birth for Margaret?

Margaret Rees, GRO ref: 1856, M qtr, Vol 11a, Page 592, MMN Evans?


Where do you have her listed as born Merthyr Tydfil?

There is this birth entry on GRO indexes

EVANS, MARGARET   mmn EVANS
1854  M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 253   

Just adding these details so others can see

Margaret EVANS, f/a, single father John REES, farmer
18 Apr 1874 Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Spouse:   Joseph GRIFFITHS f/a blacksmith father William, Sawyer
she signed her name as Margaret Evans
Witnesses Edwin Griffith & Daniel ?avies

Is this her parents marriage?

John REES, farmer, father Walter, farmer
Marriage 27 Feb 1857 Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Spouse:   Margaret EVANS, father Stephen, farmer
John & Margaret made their mark
Witnesses Stephen Evans & Thomas ?

YES.

Hi

Merthyr is from:

Marg(a)ret Evans enumerated as granddaughter in the household of Stephen Evans in Cilcarw Ucha in 1871, place of birth shown as Glamorganshire RG10/5492 folio 35 pg 13 and in 1861 RG9/4135 folio 85 pg 14 place of birth Merthyr Tydfil.

Will have to recheck my notes on the below. Can't believe I an others have missed this but you never know!?
 
EVANS, MARGARET   mmn EVANS
1854  M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 253   
Title: Re: Sarah Ann Rees 1858 - 1934
Post by: roycymru on Friday 19 February 21 14:56 GMT (UK)
A huge thanks to everyone for this. All excellent info :D