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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Louth => Topic started by: Louth21 on Friday 09 April 21 01:38 BST (UK)
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I hope this makes sense. I have the following information for Anne (Maria Anne) Morgan:
Birth: 26 FEB 1896 • North Marsh, Dundalk, Louth. Parents: Bernard Morgan and Catherine Mills.
Census: 31 Mar 1901 • Mary Street, Dundalk Urban No. 4., Louth.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__4_/Mary_Street/1562053/
Marriage: 16 MAR 1920 • St. Patrick's Church, Dundalk, Louth. Husband: Peter G Dunne. Father: Bernard Morgan.
Shipping Manifest: 31 AUG 1921 • Mary Dunne, 9 St. Mary's Terrace, Dundalk. Departure from Liverpool to Philadelphia.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2997/images/40610_B000944-00008?pId=47252404
I just got her death record, and her parents are listed as Henry Morgan and Mary. I'm positive it's the same person, as I've all the above paperwork plus documents for her three children, she died after giving birth her fourth. Also, I've found a marriage record for Peter Dunne, Widower, from Dundalk, same age and US address, in 1928.
Bernard's father was called Henry and his wife was called Mary. Also, Bernard had a brother called Henry, b. C 1867, who married with a Mary. I wonder whether Peter made a mistake when he filled in her death records? I'm almost certain I got the right Anne, but would appreciate a second pair of eyes. ???
I want to add that someone on a different post kindly pointed that there's a grave for a Bernard Morgan that well possible could be him. However, there's a mention of a daughter called Anne Donnelly who passed in 1969, while Anne (Dunne) died in 1926. https://billiongraves.com/grave/Henry-Morgan/10861260
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Her obituary:
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Birth: 26 FEB 1896 • North Marsh, Dundalk, Louth. Parents: Bernard Morgan and Catherine Mills.
Anna Maria Morgan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02173/1823255.pdf
Born North Marsh........Marsh North townland
https://www.townlands.ie/louth/upper-dundalk/dundalk/marsh-north/
Mother Catherine living in Dowdallshill townland
https://www.townlands.ie/louth/upper-dundalk/dundalk/dundalk-rural/dowdallshill/
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This Peter Dunne / Mary Morgan marriage in Dundalk of 16 March 1920 states Bernard as her father.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09261/5352525.pdf
But there's also a John Donnelly / Anna Maria Morgan marriage in Dundalk with a Bernard Morgan as her father here (24 August 1921)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09234/5341863.pdf
Re the death certificate - I think they're only as accurate as the informant so they could well misremember. But I'm also trying to work out this family and there are *a lot* of Henrys and Bernards and Marys so it takes a lot to keep track of who married/parented who.
Edit: I'm looking into the family of Julia Morgan, who was a sister of your Bernard. I'm trying to find out about all of her siblings so if you want to get in touch or share any information, that'd be great.
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Birth: 26 FEB 1896 • North Marsh, Dundalk, Louth. Parents: Bernard Morgan and Catherine Mills.
Anna Maria Morgan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02173/1823255.pdf
Born North Marsh........Marsh North townland
https://www.townlands.ie/louth/upper-dundalk/dundalk/marsh-north/
Mother Catherine living in Dowdallshill townland
https://www.townlands.ie/louth/upper-dundalk/dundalk/dundalk-rural/dowdallshill/
Thank you. Much appreciated.
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This Peter Dunne / Mary Morgan marriage in Dundalk of 16 March 1920 states Bernard as her father.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09261/5352525.pdf
But there's also a John Donnelly / Anna Maria Morgan marriage in Dundalk with a Bernard Morgan as her father here (24 August 1921)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09234/5341863.pdf
Re the death certificate - I think they're only as accurate as the informant so they could well misremember. But I'm also trying to work out this family and there are *a lot* of Henrys and Bernards and Marys so it takes a lot to keep track of who married/parented who.
Edit: I'm looking into the family of Julia Morgan, who was a sister of your Bernard. I'm trying to find out about all of her siblings so if you want to get in touch or share any information, that'd be great.
Thank you. I'm positive, looking at the DNA matches, the Anne Mary who passed away in the US is the right one. It must be there were two Bernards who were seaman, and the one buried at Dowdallshill Saint Patrick Cemetery isn't the right one. I'm going to message you what I have, but I'm not sure whether the information I have is correct.
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It's probably best you both post your info. here for others to 'pick holes' but it also allows other researchers to find you who may be able to help further to knit it together as rootschat posts show up on google easily?
When/where did each of the parents of Anna Maria die?
A stretch but...is it possible she was brought up by her grandparents & they were the names Peter recalled?
Annie
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Hi Louth21,
In your post you have this family in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__4_/Mary_Street/1562053/
Do you have anne in 1911?
There are these records:
Death of Kate Morgan 1904 - informant, son Henry
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05639/4586775.pdf
Marriage of Bernard Morgan to Bridget Lennon Markey (living close by in 1901)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10127/5684534.pdf
1911 - Bridget Markey , widow
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__4/St__Mary_s_Terrace/578983/
I can’t see a death for Bernard nor a birth for Mary Bridget.
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Just rereading thus:
Mary Morgan married Peter Dunne -1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09261/5352525.pdf
Father Bernard described as a labourer
Anna Maria Morgan married John Donnelly - 1921
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09234/5341863.pdf
Father Bernard is deceased
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From Louth21
Thank you. I'm positive, looking at the DNA matches, the Anne Mary who passed away in the US is the right one. It must be there were two Bernards who were seaman, and the one buried at Dowdallshill Saint Patrick Cemetery isn't the right one. I'm going to message you what I have, but I'm not sure whether the information I have is correct.
That grave is listed as being Henry Morgan d 1917
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Henry-Morgan/10861260
Death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05203/4437977.pdf
He doesn’t appear to have a daughter Anne in censuses.
He is possibly a brother to your Bernard as Henry’s father in also Henry on his marriage to Mary Clifford in 1891.
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I've been wondering about that Henry Morgan death in 1917 as well. The date made me wonder if a WW1 casualty? Don't know. Henry Morgan b.1867 and Mary Clifford had son called John Henry Morgan b.1893. Maybe he was know as Henry? But would he be in the same grave as his uncle?
Edit: Oh, just looked and clearly not him as wrong age. So, looks more likely to be the Henry b.1867 one - brother of Bernard b.1855.
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I would think so. :)
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Oh I should have looked more closely ::) the photo doesn’t show all the names, you have to click on family.
I was thinking it was Henry’s grave but Capt. Bernard is also there - no date of death. Plus Kate who died 1904, so Annie Donnelly is their daughter. :)
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Henry-Morgan/10861260
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So this is Mary who is also in the grave - informant Margaret Lennon, daughter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05762/4628169.pdf
And this is Henry the sea captain - informant Julia (inmate)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1881/06431/4847862.pdf
Presumably these are the parents of Bernard and Henry and siblings.
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Bernard’s probate 1908 - administration to Bridget, wife
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014915/005014915_00481.pdf
There is a newspaper snippet (I can’t view it all)
30th July 1908
Bernard Morgan 60 yrs supposed drowned
So ... back to the beginning.
Who is Mary Dunne?
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So this is Mary who is also in the grave - informant Margaret Lennon, daughter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05762/4628169.pdf
And this is Henry the sea captain - informant Julia (inmate)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1881/06431/4847862.pdf
Presumably these are the parents of Bernard and Henry and siblings.
Yes, I thought the Julia is the daughter of Henry b.1820 and his wife, Mary Mathews/Morgan, and the informant for Mary's death is Margaret Morgan/Lennon - also Julia's sister. Both of whom are also Bernard b.1855 and Henry b.1867's siblings. I need to write it all down on one sheet of paper and have it next to me when typing.
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Bernard’s probate 1908 - administration to Bridget, wife
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014915/005014915_00481.pdf
There is a newspaper snippet (I can’t view it all)
30th July 1908
Bernard Morgan 60 yrs supposed drowned
So ... back to the beginning.
Who is Mary Dunne?
I think Mary Dunne was one of the daughters of Bernard b.1855. He had a Mary b. 1887 and a Anna Maria b.1896. I think Mary married Peter Dunne and I think Anna Maria married a John Donnelly as per earlier links.
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Bernard Morgan death 1908?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05481/4534871.pdf
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Annie Donnelly here but the age is out a bit.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/b9159f0499390?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3Dannie%26namel%3Ddonnelly%26location%3D%26yyfrom%3D1967%26yyto%3D1970%26type%3DD%26submit%3DSearch
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Bernard Morgan death 1908?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05481/4534871.pdf
Don't think so!
From PRONI Will Calendars
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Administration of the Estate of Bernard Morgan late of St. Mary's Terrace Dundalk County Louth Seaman who died 7 March 1908 granted at Armagh to Bridget Morgan the Widow.
KG
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Bernard Morgan death 1908?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05481/4534871.pdf
Don't think so!
From PRONI Will Calendars
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Administration of the Estate of Bernard Morgan late of St. Mary's Terrace Dundalk County Louth Seaman who died 7 March 1908 granted at Armagh to Bridget Morgan the Widow.
KG
Ah, yes. :( Can't find an entry for that date on the irish genealogy site.
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Is this him?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10127/5684534.pdf
He was widowed and married Bridget Markey nee Lennon in 1906 who was also a widow? Sorry, just scrolled up and see Heywood has already found this.
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Is this him?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10127/5684534.pdf
He was widowed and married Bridget Markey nee Lennon in 1906 who was also a widow? Sorry, just scrolled up and see Heywood has already found this.
A tree on Ancestry has a photo of that Bridget Lennon and gives the birth and death dates of her second husband, Bernard Morgan, as 1875-1909. But, links to a death record of someone born in 1880.
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Some of these points are already made:
Mary b 1887 to Bernard and Catherine https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02539/1940294.pdf
1901 census already posted - Mary 13 yrs
This is could be Mary in 1911 aged 20 yrs
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__4/St__Mary_s_Terrace/578991/
Her marriage gives ‘full age’ for Mary and the ship’s manifest in 1921 shows 27 yrs.
Her death gives a year of birth of 1896 and age 30yrs.
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Is this him?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10127/5684534.pdf
He was widowed and married Bridget Markey nee Lennon in 1906 who was also a widow? Sorry, just scrolled up and see Heywood has already found this.
A tree on Ancestry has a photo of that Bridget Lennon and gives the birth and death dates of her second husband, Bernard Morgan, as 1875-1909. But, links to a death record of someone born in 1880.
And is a bachelor . There are several trees with the lovely photo of Bridget but no details of Bernard.