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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Longford => Topic started by: trekcuber on Tuesday 04 May 21 18:16 BST (UK)
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Hello there,
I've been attempting to do some work on the Payne Family in the 3 parishes of Tashinny, Cashel and Killashee. My family in Longford started with:
Richard Payne, born 07 Oct 1823 in Killashee Parish to Abraham and Elizabeth (Ryder/Rider) Payne. Richard immigrated to Ontario in 1846. and his parents immigrated about 1849.
Richard Payne's father- Abraham Payne's stone says he was born in Nov 1781 and died on 02 Jan 1867 Eardley, Quebec, Canada. His wife Eliza's stone said she was born in Sep 1780 and died on Nov 1865 Eardley, Quebec, Canada. They were married on 29 Feb 1812 in Cashel, Abraham was of Tashinny and Eliza was of Cashel. Abraham's death record from the church says he was the son of George and Elizabeth Payne of Ireland. There is a document that says Abraham's nephew was John Ryder, and he was the s/o Alicia Ryder(Payne) who was from Killashee from her marriage record in 1815.
There is a George Payne in the Longford Newspaper reported as being in a mental ward in Dublin and died at the age of 94 in September 1850. This seems to be the George who is the father (but there is no proof regarding this). This would compute his birth date to be 1756, and he would be 25 when Abraham was born.
It looks like (based on the tithe books) that most of the Paynes were from Cashel or Killashee, and it looks like George (1756-1850) was the oldest relative of the family in Killashee. Is there a way to find relatives that could be his father (note- naming patterns don't line up at all in this family) - but I can't figure out a way to find someone and was hoping someone might know.
Thanks!
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I seem to find no mention of George
the tithe Applotment books record two extra parishes but possible father etc
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=payne&firstname=&county=Longford&parish=&townland=&search=Search
Payne Alexander Dernadriff Cashel Longford 1827
Payne James Dernadriff Cashel Longford 1827
Payne John Dernadriff Cashel Longford 1827
Payne James Drumnacross Clonbroney Longford 1825
Payne Abraham Ballydrum Killashee Longford 1835
Payne Abreham Ballydrum Killashee Longford 1835
Payne Dominick Barry Taghshinny Longford 1830
Payne Gilbert Kileuny Taghshinny Longford 1830
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Thanks for sending that, I had also seen that. I've done a bit more work on the Payne's by now, so the only question I have is are there any other early census substitutes I can look at? I've already looked at the 1796 flax growers.
Thanks you!
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I am out of my depth, however my guide would be to look at
http://www.billmacafee.com who was studying derry and antrim
and has headings
Databases compiled from 19th Century Census Substitutes
Databases compiled from 18th Century Census Subtitutes
Databases compiled from 17th Century Census Subtitutes
best of luck hoping some are on line