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Title: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: church85 on Monday 17 May 21 18:11 BST (UK)
Hi there.

i was wondering if anyone can help me.

i can't seem to find the birth record for a relative.

it's for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737 (according to linked family trees from other users)

i found a match for a Henry & Hester having a baby Henry but that was in London which is 80 miles away from where i'm searching seems a fair distance for late 1600's

many thanks in advance


Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: bevj on Monday 17 May 21 20:15 BST (UK)
Hello
What is the first definitely true fact that you know about Henry?  How did you get back to him?
Bev
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: church85 on Monday 17 May 21 20:20 BST (UK)
traced him back through records. me and my dad started tracing back family tree a few years back and i have got stuck. all the gillett's seem to add up same village, same names sons naming their kids after their dad's that sort of thing.

i think i'm doing it correctly
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 17 May 21 20:33 BST (UK)
You aren't going to find a birth record - but you might be lucky enough to find a baptism record?
But you need to know in which denomination/faith and in which church.
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 17 May 21 20:53 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat.
What's the name of the parish you were searching which is 80 miles from London? Do registers for that parish and nearby parishes survive for the decade Henry was born? Are there any gaps? Are all entries legible? What evidence do you have that Henry was born in or around 1685?
What was Henry's occupation? Do you know names of any of his brothers or sisters?
I have a Gillett/Gillat connection in 1700's but in Lancashire. He was Catholic, born before local R.C. chaplains began keeping registers so there's no record of his baptism, nor the baptism of his wife, my 5xGGM.
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: church85 on Monday 17 May 21 21:00 BST (UK)
Yeah the place is moreton in marsh gloucestershire.

i'm not sure on what religion.
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 May 21 21:07 BST (UK)
Hi there.

i was wondering if anyone can help me.

i can't seem to find the birth record for a relative.

it's for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737 (according to linked family trees from other users)

i found a match for a Henry  having a baby Henry but that was in London which is 80 miles away from where i'm searching seems a fair distance for late 1600's

many thanks in advance
Hiya Church 85 and a warm welcome to Rootschat
Henry has a girl Sarah born Moreton in Marsh - could you check this out and confirm or deny please  :)
https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=gillett&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=henry&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Gloucestershire%2C+England%2C+United+Kingdom&country__0__=GBR&region__0__=ENG&subregion__0__=GLS&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=1670&to=1720&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: church85 on Monday 17 May 21 21:10 BST (UK)
Hi there.

i was wondering if anyone can help me.

i can't seem to find the birth record for a relative.

it's for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737 (according to linked family trees from other users)

i found a match for a Henry  having a baby Henry but that was in London which is 80 miles away from where i'm searching seems a fair distance for late 1600's

many thanks in advance
Hiya Church 85 and a warm welcome to Rootschat
Henry has a girl Sarah born Moreton in Marsh
https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=gillett&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=henry&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Gloucestershire%2C+England%2C+United+Kingdom&country__0__=GBR&region__0__=ENG&subregion__0__=GLS&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=1670&to=1720&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1

ah superb i'm hoping its not a coincidence. london just seemed a bit of a trek away in the 1600's
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: bevj on Monday 17 May 21 21:18 BST (UK)
FreeReg has a marriage between Henry Gillett and Sarah Miles on 3rd October 1705 in Moreton in Marsh. 
Bev
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 May 21 21:18 BST (UK)
Henry born 1707 ???  is this your Henry
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGW1-XXN
here is Sarah
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGW1-V4V
Mary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMZ9-GLD
and lastly Joseph
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGW1-DMB
- looks like you were a couple of years out though ???
what do you think
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 May 21 21:23 BST (UK)
FreeReg has a marriage between Henry Gillett and Sarah Miles on 3rd October 1705 in Moreton in Marsh. 
Bev
That's great Bev ...so we now know that is Henry aged 20 marrying Sarah - BUT - it doesn't look like Henry was born Moreton in Marsh does it - because I put in Henry Gillett 1670-1720 Moreton in Marsh - and nothing before 1707  for births in Moreton in Marsh - so - probably Sarah Miles was the Moreton born and they married in her Parish - Henry could have been born anywhere ???
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 17 May 21 21:24 BST (UK)
The church in Moreton in Marsh is St David; parish records start in 1643.
There don't appear to be any other churches mentioned in the 1868 National Gazetter.

"The town, which consists of one long street, forming part of the road from London to Worcester", so coach travel was a possibility.
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 May 21 21:26 BST (UK)
FreeReg has a marriage between Henry Gillett and Sarah Miles on 3rd October 1705 in Moreton in Marsh. 
Bev

Ha Ha - typical
Marriage is 1st October 1706 on this record
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2RY-9HZ
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: church85 on Monday 17 May 21 21:31 BST (UK)
yup that's where i'm getting stuck.

i've got henry marrying sarah miles and having a son john in 1721 i'm guessing there might be something beween 1705-1721
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 17 May 21 21:33 BST (UK)
There is a christening?
But date is a bit late, and geographically a bit of a trek!

9 November 1690
Cathedral Church of St Peter & St Paul, Sheffield
Henricus Gillott
son of Josephi Gillott
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: church85 on Monday 17 May 21 21:37 BST (UK)
Henry Gillett
Gender   Male
Christening   Feb 8 1684
St Andrew, Holborn, London, England
Father   Henry Gillett
Mother   Hester

that's the london one i found.

i got the d.o.b linked with another family tree so i'm not sure how accurate it is
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 May 21 22:17 BST (UK)
Henry Gillett
Gender   Male
Christening   Feb 8 1684
St Andrew, Holborn, London, England
Father   Henry Gillett
Mother   Hester

that's the london one i found.

i got the d.o.b linked with another family tree so i'm not sure how accurate it is

this record states 6th February 1684
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JW7F-7BQ
Title: Re: Can't Find a Birth Record for a HENRY GILLETT 1685-1737
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 May 21 22:43 BST (UK)
I can't find a marriage for Henry Gillett to a Hester around that time - but - there is a marriage of Henry Gillett to HENERICUS Shephard - I wonder if Henericus became Hester ??...Temple Church of England ,London...maybe worth looking in to ???