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Title: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: Muddipaws on Wednesday 19 May 21 18:14 BST (UK)
Hello

Peter Connell Died 6th July 1883, he lived in Cloonkeen, Galway.  He died at the age of 70 so, I assume he was born around 1813.  I have the death register document but no birth documents.

I am also unable to find records at all for a wife and/or his marriage.  He has 3 children Mary Connell born 1830, Julia B 1836, James 1841.  Peter Connell is my 4th Gt Grandfather.  The mother is proving elusive, due to the year of birth of the children.  Rendering it very difficult to find any paperwork at all.  I do not have access to Roots Ireland, only Irishgeneology and scoured that to no avail.

Can anyone help at all with finding his wife?  or possibly details of Peter Connell birth.  I have emailed the Cloonkeen Heritage society, still waiting a response - thank you in advance

Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 19 May 21 18:25 BST (UK)
Did James marry?
Possibility here for Peter’s wife - informant Mary, daughter in law
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05794/4639029.pdf
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: Muddipaws on Wednesday 19 May 21 18:42 BST (UK)
Thank you, that looks promising.  Can I ask how you did the search?  Becuase I would not know when she died if that makes sense
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 19 May 21 18:49 BST (UK)
Possible marriage of James Connell (father Peter) to Mary Beirne in 1881.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11004/8023355.pdf

James living in Cloonkeen Waldron townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/galway/tiaquin/kilkerrin/cloonkeen/cloonkeen-waldron/

1901 census
Residents of a house 9 in Cloonkeen Waldron (Cloonkeen, Galway).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Cloonkeen/Cloonkeen_Waldron/1379819/


Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 19 May 21 18:51 BST (UK)
Here is Peter - you have a link but here is an easier one
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06350/4821696.pdf

I just then looked at deaths in Glenamaddy district of older women  :)

I think that is probably right -
James’s marriage https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11004/8023355.pdf

1901 census - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Cloonkeen/Cloonkeen_Waldron/1379819/

Does that look right?

Apologies for repetition.

Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: Muddipaws on Wednesday 19 May 21 18:59 BST (UK)
all the above documents I have apart from who is wife was.  So i will use the registration for the Mary and try and find out her maiden name (unlikely) and her birth (even more unlikely.  Its difficult when the children are pre the records of Irishgeneology

THank you both :-)
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 19 May 21 19:09 BST (UK)
That is the death registration so there is no maiden name shown.

This is the parish , I think, https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0326

Baptism records don’t start until 1841 so James might miss out. I have looked on an index on Ancestry (FindMyPast) also has one but I can’t see any Connell baptisms.
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: Babypink2807 on Thursday 20 May 21 08:38 BST (UK)
That is the death registration so there is no maiden name shown.

This is the parish , I think, https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0326

Baptism records don’t start until 1841 so James might miss out. I have looked on an index on Ancestry (FindMyPast) also has one but I can’t see any Connell baptisms.

Guess I will be busy going through this lot tonight lol   Thank you so much I was getting confused a lot with the Townlands some sounding familiar and also Connell is such a common name plus repetative first names its a minefield
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: heywood on Thursday 20 May 21 09:26 BST (UK)
I noticed a published tree with very little information re Connells.
The only information mentions a marriage for Bridget Connell 1871.

I have looked it up and here she is with father Peter of Cloonkeen   :)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11337/8160978.pdf

The interesting thing is that she was 20 yrs old so born abt 1851 but the sad thing is that there are gaps in those baptisms on the parish site and there are no marriages which might give mother’s name  ::)

By the way, are you the same person with two accounts? It is confusing.
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: Babypink2807 on Friday 21 May 21 11:10 BST (UK)
I noticed a published tree with very little information re Connells.
The only information mentions a marriage for Bridget Connell 1871.

I have looked it up and here she is with father Peter of Cloonkeen   :)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11337/8160978.pdf

The interesting thing is that she was 20 yrs old so born abt 1851 but the sad thing is that there are gaps in those baptisms on the parish site and there are no marriages which might give mother’s name  ::)

By the way, are you the same person with two accounts? It is confusing.

This is the account I am using on Roots Chat, my other one, I totally forgot about, there is one not sure where :-).  So this is my primary account on Roots Chat one that I use now.  To be honest, I left it for months as I got fed up hitting brick walls with Irish Ancestry just was not getting anywhere :-)

If you are referring to Ancestry, published Trees, there is a 2nd tree and that is for my Mums DNA (irish side).  There is also a dirty tree which I use to mess about with in case I am lead down a rabbit hole.  My main tree is private.  Hope that helps a bit more.

How did you figure there was another daughter?  She does not appear anywhere on Census etc?
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 May 21 11:14 BST (UK)
Thank you  :)

Irish ancestry can be difficult - some parishes have good records, others not.

If you have others, it might be a different outcome.

Best wishes
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: Babypink2807 on Friday 21 May 21 11:28 BST (UK)
Thank you  :)

Irish ancestry can be difficult - some parishes have good records, others not.

If you have others, it might be a different outcome.

Best wishes

How did you figure there was another daughter Bridget?  She does not appear anywhere on Census etc?
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 May 21 11:32 BST (UK)
I explained it earlier - reply #8
Title: Re: Peter Connell Cloonkeen D 1883
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 May 21 11:40 BST (UK)
Bridget - 1901 - aged 50 yrs
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Cloonkeen/Cloonkeenagran/1379797/

Bridget 1911 - aged 70 years (often happens re age difference)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Cloonkeen/Cloonkeennagran/458049/