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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Waterford => Topic started by: allister1964 on Tuesday 01 June 21 19:30 BST (UK)
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Robert was a distant relative of mine, and as far as I know he was a Journalist and lived at St. Ursula's Terrace, Waterford, just over one hundred years ago. His paternal grandfather, also named Robert McNinch (c1809-99) lived in East Antrim. It appears that he and his wife had at least five children:
Charles (b: 1902) ; James Watt (b: 1905) ; Kathleen (b: abt 1903) ; Jane (b: abt 1907) and Robert (b: 1911).
It would be great to know what happened to these children, and possible chat to some of their living descendants. If anyone can help me, it would be much appreciated.
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There’s a public tree on Anc*y gives death of three children Charles, James & Jane - perhaps they can help
here’s the link for you to view if you have access https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/17058077/person/541131630/facts?_phsrc=hrC6&_phstart=successSource
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Robert was a distant relative of mine, and as far as I know he was a Journalist and lived at St. Ursula's Terrace, Waterford, just over one hundred ago
1911 census Robert McNinch, journalist & family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Waterford_No__3_Urban/Tramore_Old_Road__part_of_/672560/
1901 census Robert McNinch 23, journalist is a boarder living at 104 in Glasslough Street (Monaghan Rural, Monaghan)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Monaghan_Rural/Glasslough_Street/1638656/
Edit to add in case you do not have this
Robert McNinch, journalist marriage to Agnes in 1901, his father James, journalist
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10320/5756844.pdf
Robert’s birth 3 Feb 1879, Down father James Watt McNinch, reporter to newspaper
mother Jane Collins
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02935/2075655.pdf
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There are two more children born in Waterford
Robert -1911
Sadie - 1913
I can’t see any records here https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ after that.
Perhaps they moved back to the north.
If you search Bob McNinch there are references - maybe it is him.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qnf/
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From PRONI Will Calendars- https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Full Abstract :
McNinch Robert of 13 Princetown Road Bangor county Down parliamentary reporter died 15 February 1945 Administration Belfast 22 June to Agnes McNinch the widow. Effects £768 0s. 10d.
Death via GRONI- https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
Robert McNinch 16th February 1945 66 Male Newtownards
KG
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That’s great KG :)
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Thanks heywood ;D
No sign of the death of Agnes McNinch.
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No sign of the death of Agnes McNinch.
Found her! ;D
Agnes McNinch 6th February 1951 73 Female Newtownards
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Well done :)
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It appears that he and his wife had at least five children:
Charles (b: 1902) ; James Watt (b: 1905) ; Kathleen (b: abt 1903) ; Jane (b: abt 1907) and Robert (b: 1911).
It would be great to know what happened to these children
Allister1964
Do you have access to the link I posted for the McNinch public family tree?
The information on the tree would need to be verified as I think they have attached the wrong death date 21 Nov 1956 for James Watt McNinch born c1905.
That death date appears to be for a James Watt McNinch born 4 July 1889 - see this link https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/9Q8M-1RN/james-watt-mcninch-1889-1956
heywood posted details of another child born to Robert & Agnes in 1913
Please come back and let us know if any of the information posted has been helpful.
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“Please come back and let us know if any of the information posted has been helpful.”
Yes, that would be good. Kiltaglassan’s information is great.
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Thanks for all the information so far, though I don't have access to the website you mentioned. I was unable to find the birth of Sadie McNinch.
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Just had a look - Saidie (sorry)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01449/1592619.pdf
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I don't have access to the website you mentioned.
Here's some information hope it helps
Charles Collins McNinch (same profession as his father Robert)
Birth 10 May 1902 The Hill, Monaghan, Ireland died Jan 1952 Manchester, Lancashire
Edit - He is in Manchester Birmingham (1939) with his wife but we cannot post details
Marriage 1930 St James Parish Church Belfast to Anne Priscilla Beamish born 1906 died 1966,
one child name is private
There is a picture attached to Anne's name possibly with her parents
Kathleen McNinch born 1904
1911 Ireland census, no other details
James Watt McNinch Born 1906
Died 21 Nov 1956 Northern Ireland
(as posted previously I think this could be the wrong death date)
1911 Ireland census, no other details
Jane McNinch born 29 Sep 1907 Monaghan, Ireland
died 1 Jan 1999 Dundonald, Down, Northern Ireland
spouse Thomas Henry Kerr born 22 Mar 1905Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland
died 21 Aug1998 Dundonald, Down, Northern Ireland
no marriage date given, no children mentioned
1911 Ireland census
Sadie McNinch 1914 death unknown
Marriage 22 Jul 1948 James Bower Gray
no further details
Robert McNinch born 1911 he is not mentioned
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Good finds, Ladyhawk 8)
Jane McNinch born 29 Sep 1907 Monaghan, Ireland
died 1 Jan 1999 Dundonald, Down, Northern Ireland
spouse Thomas Henry Kerr born 22 Mar 1905Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland
died 21 Aug1998 Dundonald, Down, Northern Ireland
no marriage date given, no children mentioned
1911 Ireland census
Jane McNinch married Thomas Kerr on 26th December 1931 - Belfast R.D.
Registration number M/1931/B1/434/6/183
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
KG
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Ladyhawk, Thank you so much for your helpful information. I can now work forward from this.
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Northern Whig, 9 December 1947: GRAY-McNINCH - The engagement is announced between James Bower Gray, youngest son of Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Gray, Point Pleasant, Wallsend, Northumberland, to Saidie, youngest daughter of Mrs. McNinch and the late Robert McNinch, Princetown Road, Bangor, Co. Down.
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Belfast Telegraph, 16 February 1945:
DEATH OF MR. R. M'NINCH
ON THE HANSARD STAFF
The death took place to-day of Mr. Robert M'Ninch, 13 Princetown Road, Bangor, after a brief illness. Mr. M'Ninch, who was in his 67th year, was a member of the Parliamentary reporting staff at Stormont since the establishment of the Government. He was a son of the late Mr. James W. M'Ninch, first editor of the "Newtownards Chronicle" and was well known in journalistic circles in Belfast and Dublin where he was on the staff of the "Irish Times." He is survived by his wife, three sons and three daughters.
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Belfast Telegraph - Tuesday 06 February 1951
Death Notice
M’Ninch – February 6, 1951 at her residence, 13 Princetown Road, Bangor, Agnes B., widow of Robert M’Ninch. House private. Funeral on Thursday, at 3 p.m., to Bangor Cemetery.
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Belfast Telegraph - Tuesday 06 February 1951
Death Notice
M’Ninch – February 6, 1951 at her residence, 13 Princetown Road, Bangor, Agnes B., widow of Robert M’Ninch. House private. Funeral on Thursday, at 3 p.m., to Bangor Cemetery.
Belfast Telegraph, 16 February 1945:
DEATH OF MR. R. M'NINCH
ON THE HANSARD STAFF
The death took place to-day of Mr. Robert M'Ninch, 13 Princetown Road, Bangor, after a brief illness. Mr. M'Ninch, who was in his 67th year, was a member of the Parliamentary reporting staff at Stormont since the establishment of the Government.
He was a son of the late Mr. James W. M'Ninch, first editor of the "Newtownards Chronicle" and was well known in journalistic circles in Belfast and Dublin where he was on the staff of the "Irish Times."
He is survived by his wife, three sons and three daughters.
Great info....both just adding the children's names here with their dob's
Charles Collins McNinch b 19 May 1902 d 1952 Manchester (married Beamish)
James Watt McNinch b 22 Dec 1905 d?
Robert McNinch b 19 July 1911 d?
Mary Kathleen McNinch b 15 Feb 1904 d?
Jane McNinch b 29 Sep 1907 d 1 Jan 1999 (married surname Kerr)
Saidie McNinch b 26 Feb 1913 d? (surname Gray)
All the date of births from irishgenealogy
Northern Whig, 9 December 1947:
GRAY-McNINCH - The engagement is announced between
James Bower Gray, youngest son of Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Gray, Point Pleasant, Wallsend, Northumberland,
to
Saidie, youngest daughter of Mrs. McNinch and the late Robert McNinch, Princetown Road, Bangor, Co. Down.
Not found much information for Saidie/Sadie & James B Gray, where they married, deaths or possible children :-\
This might be his birth entry GRAY, JAMES BOWER mmn BOWER
1912 D Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 1772
parents marriage entry Jun 1898 S. Shields 10a 1176
Bower Jane Isabella Gray Joseph
Probate of Joseph Gray of 40 Point Pleasant Terrace Wallsend Northumberland
Died 2 June 1949 Administration 21 Sept to widow Jane Isabella Gray & Edmund Joseph Gray
Jane Isabella Gray (same address as Joseph) died 15 Oct 1953 probate 19 Jan to Noel Campbell Gray
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Hello . I am Jane’s (was known as Jean) daughter, stillliving in northern Ireland. I am 79 now, but I do have a fairly extensive knowledge of what became of all the mcninch siblings. All deceased, of course.
There is a mcninch I know of living in London , son of Robert .
Gerry parker.
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Kathleen McNinch born 1904
1911 Ireland census, no other details
Mary Kathleen McNinch b 15 Feb 1904 d?
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Mary Kathleen McNinch born 15 February 1904 at The Hill, Monaghan. MMN Doogan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01837/1717253.pdf
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Kathleen McNinch born 1904
1911 Ireland census, no other details
Mary Kathleen McNinch b 15 Feb 1904 d?
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Mary Kathleen McNinch born 15 February 1904 at The Hill, Monaghan. MMN Doogan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01837/1717253.pdf
Belfast Telegraph - Tuesday 06 February 1951
Death Notice
M’Ninch – February 6, 1951 at her residence, 13 Princetown Road, Bangor, Agnes B., widow of Robert M’Ninch. House private. Funeral on Thursday, at 3 p.m., to Bangor Cemetery.
Belfast Telegraph, 16 February 1945:
DEATH OF MR. R. M'NINCH
ON THE HANSARD STAFF
The death took place to-day of Mr. Robert M'Ninch, 13 Princetown Road, Bangor, after a brief illness. Mr. M'Ninch, who was in his 67th year, was a member of the Parliamentary reporting staff at Stormont since the establishment of the Government.
He was a son of the late Mr. James W. M'Ninch, first editor of the "Newtownards Chronicle" and was well known in journalistic circles in Belfast and Dublin where he was on the staff of the "Irish Times."
He is survived by his wife, three sons and three daughters.
Great info....both just adding the children's names here with their dob's
Charles Collins McNinch b 19 May 1902 d 1952 Manchester (married Beamish)
James Watt McNinch b 22 Dec 1905 d?
Robert McNinch b 19 July 1911 d?
Mary Kathleen McNinch b 15 Feb 1904 d?
Jane McNinch b 29 Sep 1907 d 1 Jan 1999 (married surname Kerr)
Saidie McNinch b 26 Feb 1913 d? (surname Gray)
All the date of births from irishgenealogy
Northern Whig, 9 December 1947:
GRAY-McNINCH - The engagement is announced between
James Bower Gray, youngest son of Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Gray, Point Pleasant, Wallsend, Northumberland,
to
Saidie, youngest daughter of Mrs. McNinch and the late Robert McNinch, Princetown Road, Bangor, Co. Down.
Not found much information for Saidie/Sadie & James B Gray, where they married, deaths or possible children :-\
This might be his birth entry GRAY, JAMES BOWER mmn BOWER
1912 D Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 1772
parents marriage entry Jun 1898 S. Shields 10a 1176
Bower Jane Isabella Gray Joseph
Probate of Joseph Gray of 40 Point Pleasant Terrace Wallsend Northumberland
Died 2 June 1949 Administration 21 Sept to widow Jane Isabella Gray & Edmund Joseph Gray
Jane Isabella Gray (same address as Joseph) died 15 Oct 1953 probate 19 Jan to Noel Campbell Gray