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Title: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Friday 04 June 21 16:47 BST (UK)
Looking for any members of the Hutcheson family up to 1948. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 04 June 21 16:52 BST (UK)
Are you looking for living persons?  If so - we can’t help

Have you checked the Surname Interests Board?




Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Friday 04 June 21 17:26 BST (UK)
Thank you, I do appreciate that this is how the system works.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Monday 07 June 21 17:35 BST (UK)
 Making progress. Looking for census records for 1871, Parkton, Killearnan Parish. Donald & Ann McLean, farmer with son Donald, farmer, born 1872 and in the 1881 census for the same region Christina Fraser born Linnie 1874 to parents, Alexander & Margaret - Farmer.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 09 June 21 14:27 BST (UK)
Was this Donald McLean the son of Donald McLean and Ann Grant
Born 11/4/1871 Killearnan Ross & Cromarty

Possible record for parents on the 1871 census address Croftancreich Killearnan
Donald McLean age 26 born Croy Invernesshire
Anne McLean age 27 born Croy
Alexander McLean age 4 born Killearnan
Anne McLean age 1 born Daviot Invernesshire
This sounds like the family you mentioned at Parkton Killearnan Parish on the 1891 census

The family are still at the same address Croftnacreich on the 1881 census is this your family

Rosie
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Wednesday 09 June 21 14:55 BST (UK)
Thank you Rosie, that is most helpful. I am now looking at the Hutcheson line, which also are directly related to the Mcleans. I am looking for the family of Ann Fraser and William Hutcheson who lived in Inverness-shire. First child was Hugh Fraser Hutcheson born 1889 in Urquhart. In 1898 I think they had another son called Alistair. This may be shown wrongly, as I cannot find an Alistair Hutcheson or Hutchison born to Ann & William. I fully appreciate that errors are sometimes made on census records. Thank you again.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 09 June 21 15:19 BST (UK)
Im assuming you have them on the 1901 census Artafallie Knockbain
William Hutcheson age 42born Killtarlity  grocer and draper
Ann Hutcheson age 35 born Killtarlity
Hugh Fraser Hutcheson age 11 born Urquhart
Alister Hutcheson age 3 born Inverness
John Hutcheson age 1 born Killmorak
William Hutcheson age 1 month born Knockbain

Maybe look at this birth on Scotlands People for a Alexander Hutcheson 1897 Urquhart Inverness

Rosie
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 09 June 21 15:22 BST (UK)
1901 Census, Knockbain: William Hutcheson, 48; Ann, 35; Hugh Fraser, 11; Alister, 3; John, 1. William and Ann born Kiltarlity, Hugh and Alister Glenurquhart, John in Kilmorack. View the original at Scotland's People to check.

Remember that Alastair/Alister could have been registered as Alexander.

Edit: I see my post crossed with Rosie's one saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 09 June 21 15:32 BST (UK)
Death for a Hugh Frazer Hutcheson 16 January 1949 Belfast
Burial 20 January 1949 Dundonald Cemetery
Last residence 6,Diamond Gardens Finaghy
Also same grave is a Jessie I Hutcheson died 1968 age 76 years

proni.gov,uk/wills
Hugh Fraser Hutcheson retired NIRTB Official of 6,Diamond Gardens to widow Jessie Isobel Hutcheson

Rosie 
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 09 June 21 15:37 BST (UK)
Marriage on Scotlands People
Hugh F Hutcheson
Jessie Isobel Lindsay
1920 Inverness

Rosie
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 09 June 21 15:44 BST (UK)
Royal Airforce records
Hugh Fraser Hutcheson
Birth date 22 August 1889
Urquhart Milton Inverness
Service date 17 May 1914
Service number 204794
Last service date 31 March 1918
Father William Hutcheson

Rosie
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Wednesday 09 June 21 15:53 BST (UK)
Great work, thank you. I was just trying to build a skeleton, before I started to put any flesh on the bones.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 09 June 21 16:00 BST (UK)
If you have access to Ancestry there are a few trees that have the death for Alexander/Alistair Hutcheson 28 October 1965 North Kessock Rosshire .Also a photo of his grave stone
Marriage on Scotlands People certificate would need to be ordered
Alexander Hutcheson
Jessie Miriann Fraser 1946 Inverness

Rosie
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Wednesday 09 June 21 16:26 BST (UK)
Thank you Rosie, very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Friday 11 June 21 09:35 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me with the 1881 Census
Looking for the family of Alexander & Margaret Fraser. One of their siblings was Christina born 1871 in Kiltarlity or Killearnan. Her father was a farmer. If I had any of the other birth dates I could work it out in SP.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 11 June 21 10:04 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me with the 1881 Census
Looking for the family of Alexander & Margaret Fraser. One of their siblings was Christina born 1871 in Kiltarlity or Killearnan. Her father was a farmer.
A sibling is a brother or sister.

Are you looking for brothers and sisters of Alexander and/or Margaret or siblings of Christina, daughter of Alexander Fraser, farmer, and Margaret his wife, or for Christina, daughter of Alexander Hutcheson, farmer, and Margaret Fraser his wife?

And is this the same Christina, daughter of Alexander and Margaret, born 1874 in Linnie as mentioned in your second post above? If so, where did the two different birth dates come from?
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 11 June 21 10:26 BST (UK)
There's this family in 1881 at Duallan, Kiltarlity, Inverness-shire
Alexander FRASER   M   46    M   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Farmer 40 Ac Ar
Margaret FRASER   M   38    F   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife
Catherine FRASER   U   15    F   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
James FRASER       13    M   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
William FRASER       11    M   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Christina FRASER       7    F   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
Alexander FRASER       6    M   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Donald FRASER       4    M   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Hugh FRASER       2    M   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
John FRASER       3 m   M   Kiltarlity, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
Roderick FRASER   U   22    M   Kirkhill, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Serv
   Occ:   Farm Serv

From the IGI these look like the family of Alexander Fraser and his wife Margaret Fraser (i.e. Fraser was both her maiden and her married name), probably the couple married in Kiltarlity on 10 February 1865.
Catherine, born 21 January 1866
James, born 3 August 1867
William, born 7 July 1869
Christina, born 25 October 1871
Alexander, born 11 February 1874
which is when the IGI stops so younger children are not listed.

But beware! There are two other couples with the same names, one married on 27 December 1860 in Inverness and the other on 14 October 1864 in Urquhart, Moray, whose families would overlap.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Friday 11 June 21 10:35 BST (UK)
Many thanks, I feel sure this is the correct family.  I had no details of the family of Christina Fraser who married Donald Maclean on 28.01.1904 in Killearnan Parish. Her parents names are shown on the marriage certificate, but not their birth dates. Just needed a legitimate reference point to start from. Thank you again for your help and patience.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 11 June 21 11:31 BST (UK)
Many thanks, I feel sure this is the correct family.  I had no details of the family of Christina Fraser who married Donald Maclean on 28.01.1904 in Killearnan Parish. Her parents names are shown on the marriage certificate, but not their birth dates. Just needed a legitimate reference point to start from. Thank you again for your help and patience.
Fine, but you need to be sure you have the correct couple, as there are three couples with the same names at about the same time.

If you have not already done so, you need to find your Donald and Christina in the 1911 census and check her age and parish of birth to make sure you have the correct one.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Friday 11 June 21 11:39 BST (UK)
I will do that now. In 1911 she was married to Donald Maclean, and they have a 3 year old daughter.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Friday 11 June 21 12:50 BST (UK)
Struggled to find them in the 1911 census. Got a copy of their marriage certificate which shows they were married 28.01.1904, in the parish of Killearnan. He was 32 and Christina was 30. Their child was born in Inverness 1908.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 11 June 21 13:54 BST (UK)
This census 1911 might be worth looking at ref./073/4/7 Knockbain Ross Cromarty
Donald McLean age 39
Christina McLean age 37
Donald McLean age 7
Alexander McLean age 5
Maggie Ann McLean age 3

Rosie
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Friday 11 June 21 14:37 BST (UK)
This looks correct, just checking with my relative. Thank you.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 11 June 21 15:25 BST (UK)
If Christina was 30 on 28 January 1904, she must have been born between 29 January 1873 and 28 January 1804.

If she was 37 in the 1911 census, she was born between 3 April 1873 and 2 April 1874.

So either she gave a wrong age on her marriage and census, or she isn't the one born in 1871.

Where does the 1911 census say she was born?
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Friday 11 June 21 15:47 BST (UK)
I am waiting for a reply, to give some clarity. The marriage certificate of 28.01.1904 shows Donald aged 32 and Christina 30, residing in Linnie, South West of Tore, in the County of Ross.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Saturday 12 June 21 17:59 BST (UK)
The 1911 information from Rosie is 100% correct. This should help ??
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 12 June 21 18:14 BST (UK)
The 1911 information from Rosie is 100% correct. This should help ??
Yes, but it's not complete.

Rosie's information is from the index to the 1911 census at SP.

You need to view the full original document to see all the information that was included in the census, for example where they were all born.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Saturday 12 June 21 19:14 BST (UK)
Excellent thought, will do. Thank you.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Lance Matthews on Saturday 12 June 21 19:55 BST (UK)
Not easy to read the SP 1911 census. It states they have been married 7 years.
Title: Re: Hutcheson family of Artafallie, North Kessock, Black Isle
Post by: Girlfriday on Monday 13 February 23 14:21 GMT (UK)
Marion Jessie Fraser was the aunt of my late husband.She is buried in Urquhart Old Cemetery  near Alcaig. Ross and.Cromarty. In the same plot as her parents.Alistair Hutchison is.buried in Tore Cemetery with his second wife. MArion Fraser.pre deceased him.