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Title: Marriage Banns
Post by: Linda Simpson on Friday 25 June 21 18:39 BST (UK)
Hi, I am looking for the marriage/banns of David Jones and Elinor Williams 1840. Llanfeugan, St Meugan. Thank you for your help. Regards Linda.
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 25 June 21 18:58 BST (UK)
Per www.freebmd.org.uk

June qtr 1840 David Jones/Elinor Williams  - Brecknock 26 483

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCKD-3RR

It’s possible the image may be on FindMyPast but you need a subscription to view it
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: Linda Simpson on Friday 25 June 21 19:10 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help, Will take a look at what you suggested.
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: osprey on Friday 25 June 21 20:16 BST (UK)
the Banns are not online but the parish entry for the marriage is

4 May 1840 parish church of Llanfeugan
David Jones full bachelor labourer Coity Mawr father John Jones labourer
Elinor Williams full spinster Coity Mawr father David Williams labourer
witnesses Mary Williams & Daniel Jones, only Daniel signed, the others made their mark.
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: Linda Simpson on Saturday 26 June 21 11:35 BST (UK)
Hi, I don't think this is my Elinor, her Father's name was Thomas Williams. She married my Gt Grandfather William Hopkins in 1843 Trevethin, and states on certificate that her father's name was Thomas Williams. Problem is she was a Williams. Previous to this date she had married a David Jones. She was late Jones formerly Williams. Also on Childrens birth certificates it states  late Jones formally Williams. Thank you for help. Regards Linda
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 26 June 21 12:52 BST (UK)
I don’t know if this is if help, there is another marriage but in Bedwellty Monmouthshire.

23 November 1840
David JONES bac. full age Collier of Tredegar father Thomas JONES Collier.
Eleanor WILLIAMS sp. minor of Tredegar father Thomas WILLIAMS Farmer
Both made X, witnesses Thomas DAVIES X and ? JONES (first name illegible, possibly Evan)
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: osprey on Saturday 26 June 21 20:02 BST (UK)
parish entry for the 1843 marriage has Thomas Williams collier, witnesses James & Mary Saunders who signed, bride and groom both marked. James also witnessed the previous marriage on the register & the following one so he could be the parish clerk or another church official.
The vicar noted that the marriage was on Saturday morning.   :D
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: Linda Simpson on Sunday 27 June 21 09:36 BST (UK)
Hi, thank you for your help, I will look into marriage info that Jebber sent. There is only one problem Eleanor's father was a collier. Re the marriage in 1843 sent by Osprey I have that marriage certificate, Eleanor states herself as a spinster. On other info I have Eleanor in 1843 was Administrex for David Jones. Also on William and Eleanors Childrens certificates it states she was late Jones formally Williams. Thank you regards Linda.
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 27 June 21 13:01 BST (UK)
She married my Gt Grandfather William Hopkins in 1843 Trevethin,

Where do you have this couple in 1851
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: Linda Simpson on Sunday 27 June 21 14:16 BST (UK)
Hi, in 1851 they were living in Mynyddislwyn. Eleanor states that she was born in Neath. Thank you.
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 27 June 21 16:01 BST (UK)
Thank you  :)

For anyone looking for this. HO107/2453 Folio 381 Page 3.
Elinor/Eleanor has been written as Eliona Hopkin and she is 31 years old.  Her place of birth is Catwg. There is a 10 year old Ann Jones with them bn Mynyddislwyn also a brother of Eleanors a 17 year old David Williams also bn Catwg.

Marriage also shows surname as Hopkin - Sept qtr 1843 Pontypool RD
William Hopkin / Eleanor Jones

You don't mention having got Eleanor on 1841 census  :-\

On other info I have Eleanor in 1843 was Administrex for David Jones.

Where did this David Jones die and how old was he.
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 27 June 21 16:06 BST (UK)
There is an Eleanor Williams and a David Jones in this household in Neath area 1841
HO107
Piece 1422
Book 12
Folio  8
Page  8

Maybe they never married
Title: Re: Marriage Banns
Post by: Linda Simpson on Monday 28 June 21 18:59 BST (UK)
Hi, thank you for all your help. On the 1841 census I have found a David Jones age 30 born in Monmouthshire,  and also Eleanor Jones age 21 not born in county. Address they are living at is Gwhray Mynyddislwyn Monmouthshire. Which is where most of the Hopkins family come from, William Hopkins who she married in 1843 lived in the same area. So hopefully I might be getting somewhere.
Thank you all once again regards Linda.