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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: Jan Prit on Tuesday 06 July 21 02:40 BST (UK)
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Good Morning all hope you are all well. I am now trying to find the correct baptism of my ancestor Thomas Simmonds, their is so many different records around. This family connected with the family names of Lydia, Woodger, and Long right through to Phillis Lydia Hodge (married name). The Thomas Simmonds who married a Hannah Long on the 15/4/1823 Maidstone Kent her death 13/12/1857 East Maidstone kent and Thomas's death date 20/9/1849 Maidstone Kent. I have searched trying to find the proper Thomas Simmonds who has the names Lydia, Woodger and Long in the Record. I will keep on searching later. :-[ :-\
Regards,
Janet :-\
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According to GRO Index, Thomas's age was recorded as 50 when he died in 1849, so possible birth circa 1798-1800. (Assuming this is the Thomas you are looking for)
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Good Afternoon Brentor boy, I have this record down 20/9/1849, but do I have the right Thomas Simmonds their is a lot of them, thanking you for your help. :-[
Regards,
Janet :-\
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Do you have the death certificate? Does the name of the informant, place of death or occupation give any clue to his identity?
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Afternoon Brentor Boy I don't seem to have the Death Certificate, but somehow have the correct date, month and year, I need to look at my other records, some unfortunatley I have lost. :-[
Regards,
Janet :-\
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FindMyPast have the image for the 1849 burial -
Holy Trinity, Maidstone - 20 September 1849
Thomas Simmonds, address = Bone Alley - aged 50
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Good Evening Bumble B, Just found Thomas Simmonds death 16/9/1849 buried on the 20/9/1849 Hannah with Him his trade Gun Flint. I also have her death Certificate widow of Thomas Simmonds his trade Gunsmith. Not sure about this needs more searching, thanking you all. :-[
Regards,
Janet :-\
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This family connected with the family names of Lydia, Woodger, and Long
There's the marriage of
Thomas Simmons + Lyddy Woodger
23 August 1790, Addington, Kent
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJDK-1SC3
Also on FreeReg. See note about the signature of the groom.
Witnesses William Hills, Lydia Price.
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Baptism in West Kingsdown, Kent, in 1799
Thomas Symmons
Parents Thomas + Lydia
Has anyone got more details?
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Other baptisms indexed at West Kingsdown to Thomas and Lydia Symmons
Sophy 1791 (Simans)
Agnes 1792
William 1794
Phillis 1796
There's a Jeremiah (Simmons), 1803, Farningham.
Those female names do come up in the baptisms in Maidstone later to Thomas and Hannah.
Here's the Simmonds family in Maidstone in the 1841 census (image)
Thomas is 41. Occupation ?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHK-93G2-RQPN
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Burial at Maidstone, 13 July 1836, of a Lydia Simmonds
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZT2-V25
From a free index elsewhere
Lydia Simmonds, age 70, buried 1836, Maidstone All Saints
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Insolvency of Thomas Simmons: account book
Prison Maidstone
Trade Gunsmith
https://www.kentarchives.org.uk/collections/getrecord/GB51_Q_C_I_58
London Gazette, 7 June 1831
Insolvent Debtors
At the Court-House, at Maidstone, in the County of Kent, on the 30th day of June 1831, at Ten
o'Clock in the Forenoon precisely....
Thomas Simmons, late of Week-Street, Maidstone, in the County of Kent, Gun Flint-Maker.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/18810/page/1134
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Good Morning jonw65 thank you ever so much this is very interesting, on the 1841 Census with wife Hannah and children he is listed as a Fossilist, also mentioned on her death certificate is a Sarah it looks like Naylor who was present at the death Infirmary, this was also under the date that Hannah Simmonds died on the 13/12/1857 Infirmary. This is getting more and more interesting I am glad to have searched more. :-[ :-\
Regards,
Janet :)
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Hi Janet
I don't think I've ever seen a Fossilist in the census before! No wonder I couldn't read it.
Here's hoping that Thomas was giving a few hints with those names for his children, and particularly that Woodger is going to be lucky for you!
John
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Good Morning jonw65 thanks again for your help I don't have much luck in searching but I have sent a few emails out to the places that were mentioned, time for a cuppa, take care and thanks, its very hard searching from Australia, I have the CD of Maidstone records, the baptism I have down for Thomas in 1801 he was the son of a Mary, father unknown she had two sons, the other James. :-\
A lot of other researches have his parents down as Joseph Simmonds and wife Elizabeth, but his name doesn't appear with these parents. :-\
Regards,
Janet :-[