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Title: John Allan
Post by: xs on Monday 02 August 21 18:58 BST (UK)

Hello
 I'm not having much luck finding the parents  of John Allan 1834-1881  Born in Drumadonnell Bandbridge, Down, Ireland and died in Dalry, Ayrshire, Scotland  (a miner killed by falling stones from a roof)  He married Cathrine Cowan and had 7 children, 5 of which were born in  Ireland.  Any help would be appreciated.

Title: Re: John Allan
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 02 August 21 20:32 BST (UK)

Quote from: xs on Monday 02 August 21 18:58 BST (UK)

He married Cathrine Cowan and had 7 children, 5 of which were born in  Ireland. 

Is this the marriage in 1852?
John Allen to Catherine Cowan.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1852/09424/5413786.pdf
John's father was also John, and a weaver like his son.

John living in the townland of Closkelt (sic).
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-lower-half/drumgooland/moneyslane/cloghskelt/

KG

Title: Re: John Allan
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 02 August 21 20:34 BST (UK)

Marriage which took place in Banbridge Registrar's Office lists names of both fathers-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1852/09424/5413786.pdf

Title: Re: John Allan
Post by: xs on Tuesday 03 August 21 11:50 BST (UK)

Thank you everyone.  That's very helpful.  Just need to try to find his wife and when they married

Title: Re: John Allan
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 03 August 21 16:53 BST (UK)

Quote from: xs on Monday 02 August 21 18:58 BST (UK)

He married Cathrine Cowan and had 7 children, 5 of which were born in  Ireland. 

Joseph Allen born May 1864 at Moneyslane. Mother Catherine Cowan.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03619/2335801.pdf

Moneyslane townland
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-lower-half/drumgooland/moneyslane/moneyslane/

KG

Title: Re: John Allan
Post by: xs on Tuesday 03 August 21 18:35 BST (UK)

Thanks KG.  Joseph's birth is consistent with the name and address of his parents when they got married.  His occupation on the marriage record states he was a weaver, as was his father before him.  His death cert shows he was a miner. Could he have left Ireland to work in Scotland as a miner?  I can't find any record of when he left Ireland for Scotland.  His mother is named on his death certificate, so I'm hoping that this is the same John Allan that I'm looking for and I can add both parents to the tree.

Title: Re: John Allan
Post by: xs on Tuesday 03 August 21 19:16 BST (UK)

Thank you for your replies
 I think this is what I've been looking for:
I already have John Allan 1834-1881  Wife Cathrine Cowan 1834-1887 (my initial post)
Death record shows his mother's maiden name as Davidson (from Scotland's People)
I now have both his parents :  John Allan and Eliza Jane Davidson
Any further information on the parents would be very helpful.  Thank you