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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Flintshire => Topic started by: mikestout on Friday 26 November 21 18:01 GMT (UK)
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I am researching Mary Catherine Roberts. She married Richard H Roberts in 1937 in Wrexham. I have found her in two 1911 census's with the same age but with different fathers and locations. One is in Flint and the other in Connah's Quay, towns which are next to each other. I think that the only way I can resolve this is by seeing who the mother of father is on the marriage certificate or Parish Record of Marriage. I cant see marriage record in the North Wales BMD which makes me think that there is no marriage certificate, and I can't find a copy of the Parish Record that shows the father. Any ideas?
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Do you have her on the 1939 register, if so what is her date of birth
ADDED You can get the marriage certificate from the GRO
Marriage June qtr 1937
Roberts Mary C
Roberts Richard H
Wrexham 11b 493
It is on North Wales BMD
ROBERTS Mary C C14/02/19
ROBERTS Richard H
1937
Llay, St Martin Wrexham County Borough (Wrexham)
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Her date of birth is 16th Dec 1907
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Thank you, I have just added
It is on North Wales BMD
ROBERTS Mary C C14/02/19
ROBERTS Richard H
1937
Llay, St Martin Wrexham County Borough (Wrexham)
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Her date of birth is 16th Dec 1907
Possible birth registration from GRO website
ROBERTS, MARY CATHERINE Mothers maiden surname WILLIAMS
1907 Dec Quarter in ANGLESEY reg district Volume 11B Page 446
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There is a baptism at Llangefni 4th Feb 1908 for a Mary Catherine Roberts, parents Thomas & Mary Ann which possibly links to that birth registration. Abode 16 Church Terrace.
Sorry, I will have to leave this with you to check further
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The two options I have for birth is born in Connah's Quay, daughter of Elias Roberts and Elizabeth Roberts, or born in Flint, daughter of Robert Roberts and Catherine Roberts. Both of these are from the 1911 census and show her with the same age
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Burial
Mary Catherine Roberts age 2 years 2 months
30th November 1909
Llangefni, Anglesey
abode 16 Church Terrace
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I have ordered her marriage certificate. Hopefully that will help.
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Burial
Mary Catherine Roberts age 2 years 2 months
30th November 1909
Llangefni, Anglesey
abode 16 Church Terrace
That is good as it eliminates the one I posted. :)
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If she was born late in December there's a good chance she wasn't registered till 1908.
Holywell Mar qtr 1908
Mary Catherine Roberts.,
The odd thing is there are 2 entries with the same reference number, one has mmn Parry, the other is Edwards.
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If she was born late in December there's a good chance she wasn't registered till 1908.
Holywell Mar qtr 1908
Mary Catherine Roberts.,
The odd thing is there are 2 entries with the same reference number, one has mmn Parry, the other is Edwards.
Probably the 2 you found..
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Yes, all a bit odd. Hopefully when the marriage certificate arrives it will clear it up.
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The two options I have for birth is born in Connah's Quay, daughter of Elias Roberts and Elizabeth Roberts, or born in Flint, daughter of Robert Roberts and Catherine Roberts. Both of these are from the 1911 census and show her with the same age
North Wales BMD indicate that there was an amendment
ROBERTS Mary Catherine 1908 Flint Flintshire (Mold) FLNT/46/59
ROBERTS Mary Catherine 1908 Flint Flintshire (Mold) FLNT/46/59a
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That is peculiar, why might that be ?
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The 1911 for Elias and Elizabeth Roberts has them married 6 years.
There is only one match.
He married Elizabeth Parry in 1904 at Llandyrnog. Denbigh.
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Checking the Robert Roberts family, the son David Griffith Roberts b 1898 has mmn Edwards. Also same mmn for Gwilym b 1902.
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No idea I am afraid. Indexes normally show an 'a' after those that have been amended, it could be anything that had been written wrongly or missed from the original registration
Possible registration of younger sister of Mary C with parents Elias & Elizabeth
ROBERTS, JANE mmn PARRY
GRO Reference: 1910 March Quarter in HOLYWELL Volume 11B Page 179
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Checking the Robert Roberts family, the son David Griffith Roberts b 1898 has mmn Edwards. Also same mmn for Gwilym b 1902.
1911 married 12 years. Only one good match.
Robert Roberts / Catherine Edwards. 1898 Civil marriage St Asaph.
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I think that it is still possible that those 2 births with the same registration on GRO are different Mary Catherine Roberts.