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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: liqnov on Thursday 27 January 22 18:07 GMT (UK)
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Winifred Tivnan died 9th July 1927 aged 81 in Doocastle. One of her son's Batty Tivnan registered the death. Winifred is on the 1901 & 1911 as a Farmer and in Doocastle. What I cant find is a marriage for a Winifred ? marrying a Tivnan. Can anyone help please?
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Death Certificate
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Winifred 1911
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Marriage: #30
Patrick TIVNANE to Wynefred FERRELL on 18th February 1871.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11337/8161284.pdf
KG
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probable birth for Michael in 1887 (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/3bc64311825370) same district and townland, mother Winifred Farrel[?] and father Patrick
and for Battie/Bartholomew 1883 (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/771bc110233981)
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Hi,
Many thanks for this. I still need some help please if possible:
1. What is Patrick Tivnan's Rank or Profession?
2. What is the Roman Catholic Chapel?
3. What is the Union?
4. What does the P.P. mean after James May's name?
Many thanks
Marriage: #30
Patrick TIVNANE to Wynefred FERRELL on 18th February 1871.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11337/8161284.pdf
KG
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Hi,
Many thanks for this. I still need some help please if possible:
1. What is Patrick Tivnan's Rank or Profession?
Landholder
2. What is the Roman Catholic Chapel?
Looks like Bunenaden?
3. What is the Union?
Tobercurry
4. What does the P.P. mean after James May's name?
Parish Priest
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Many thanks once again you have a superb talent. The James May on this Certificate I think is my G G Grandfather born circa 1848 Bunannadden. His Father I know was named Patrick a Farm Labourer and dead in 1875 on James marriage certificate from the UK. But I cannot find his mothers first name or maiden name because I cant find a birth or baptised entry. Can you help with this please?
Hi,
Many thanks for this. I still need some help please if possible:
1. What is Patrick Tivnan's Rank or Profession?
Landholder
2. What is the Roman Catholic Chapel?
Looks like Bunenaden?
3. What is the Union?
Tobercurry
4. What does the P.P. mean after James May's name?
Parish Priest
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The James May on this Certificate I think is my G G Grandfather born circa 1848 Bunannadden. His Father I know was named Patrick a Farm Labourer and dead in 1875 on James marriage certificate from the UK. But I cannot find his mothers first name or maiden name because I cant find a birth or baptised entry. Can you help with this please?
4. What does the P.P. mean after James May's name?
Parish Priest
Do you mean the parish priest whom you think was James May and your GG Grandfather?
I don't read the priest's surname as May. There are more than 3 letters. Some are faded. My best guess is Henry. I may be pre-disposed to see Henry as it's a Mayo surname - there were some in my extended family.
Do you have other evidence that your ancestor was a priest?
I suggest you begin a new thread about your GGGF.
Added. I see that you already have a topic about James May.
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Batty or Bartholomew Tivnan was I know still alive in 1943 because I have the paperwork for him receiving his brother James estate. But, I cannot find Batty's death in Ireland. I know from the solicitors letter that he was in 1943 a farmer in Doocastle, but his death or farm he owned or any other info is proving difficult to find. Can anyone help please?
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Is this his death?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1968/04191/4069632.pdf
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Oh WOW, you are good. Many thanks for this much appreciated
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Is there a way that I can see if Probate or a will was left by Bartholowew Tivnan please? I ask this because I want to find out where Batty was living as a farmer at that time.
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http://www.cigo.ie/pages/guide-to-wills-and-administrations/
I have had a quick look here 1967/68 but can’t see anything.
The residence at death is Lugdoon.
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Yes just had a look and confirm there is nothing there. I was after the actual address of the farm that Batty was at. Is there any other way that I could search for this please?
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The townland would have been the address before we got road names in rural Ireland. Not sure about this part of County Mayo but where I live road names started being used in the 1970s.
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Sorry, that should have been place of death not residence.
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The place of death is given as Lugdoon, which is in Doocastle i expect its the same place as on the Census as no Lugdoon Townland shown in 1901-1911. he died a single man aged 85yrs. In 1956 a Michael Tivnan of Lugdoon advertised for sale an amount of Hay, this is most likely his brother, i cant locate a death for him. There is no death notice for Batty in Newspaper and as the death informant is noted as a neighbour who buried him its unlikely he had family left in the area. There will be no roads or farm names, if you were contacting people even today you would just address to name, Lugdoon, Doocastle, Ballymote Co Mayo.
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The place of death is given as Lugdoon, which is in Doocastle i expect its the same place as on the Census as no Lugdoon Townland shown in 1901-1911. he died a single man aged 85yrs. In 1956 a Michael Tivnan of Lugdoon advertised for sale an amount of Hay, this is most likely his brother, i cant locate a death for him. There is no death notice for Batty in Newspaper and as the death informant is noted as a neighbour who buried him its unlikely he had family left in the area. There will be no roads or farm names, if you were contacting people even today you would just address to name, Lugdoon, Doocastle, Ballymote Co Mayo.
Michael Tivnan was his brother born 1887. Where have you seen the advertisement and can you post a link please? I assume the newspaper advert has contact details at the time? Thanks for the info really do appreciate it
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I don’t know if this group is still operative but there is a contact
http://ballymoteheritage.com/
There is also a Facebook page for Ballymote Community.
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Sorry dont know how to link.
The advert is in Sligo Newspaper, 13th Feb 1956 its only a small notice.Mullaney and Gormley Sales.
3 Ton of very best quality Ryegrass Hay for sale by public auction for Michael Tivenan Lugdoon Doocastle.
This is the only only mention of the surname i can find.
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Sorry dont know how to link.
The advert is in Sligo Newspaper, 13th Feb 1956 its only a small notice.Mullaney and Gormley Sales.
3 Ton of very best quality Ryegrass Hay for sale by public auction for Michael Tivenan Lugdoon Doocastle.
This is the only only mention of the surname i can find.
Can anyone help with the link or upload the newspaper clip please? I have looked but cannot locate it
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Can't see the one your looking for but an M. Tivnan Doocastle gave a subscription to the Sligo 1916 Memorial Fund, listed among many in the Sligo Champion April 1 1966.
No I can't post a link it's a subscription site.
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The James May on this Certificate I think is my G G Grandfather born circa 1848 Bunannadden. His Father
4. What does the P.P. mean after James May's name?
Parish Priest
Do you mean the parish priest whom you think was James May and your GG Grandfather?
I don't read the priest's surname as May. There are more than 3 letters. Some are faded. My best guess is Henry. I may be pre-disposed to see Henry as it's a Mayo surname - there were some in my extended family.
I'm 99% sure the surname of the priest was Henry. A witness on the next marriage registration was Henry O'Neil. Comparing the priest's surname and the forename of the O'Neil witness, they look the same to me.