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Title: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: Susan Smith on Sunday 13 February 22 12:18 GMT (UK)
Trying to find anything about Edith Smith b 1884 Chobham, Surrey, Parents Silas Smith and Rhoda Baker did find a christening which i think is correct but fathers christian name not same,  could have been listed incorrectly,  ultimately I am trying to find if she married a John King,  Not having much luck.  Any help would be appreciated.   Sue
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 13 February 22 12:22 GMT (UK)
There is an 1891 entry for an Edith MA Smith born 1884 Battersea - father Silas AA Smith mother Isabel J.   Is that the same Edith?  Silas is shown as a traveller

Where did you get Rhoda Baker from as there is no marriage

What censuses do you have her on with parents?  If none - where did you get their names from?
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: Susan Smith on Sunday 13 February 22 12:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole,  Silas and Rhoda were my Hubbies Great Grandparents,  his Grandfather was William Smith b 08/01/1890 Bagshot, Surrey (Chertsey)  did find him living with a family of Kings in 1939 a John King and Edith King,  I think Edith would be his sister,  lots of Ancestry trees have John King and Edith Sharpe but believe its Edith Smith but need to verify and having trouble. They were Travellers.

Sue
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 13 February 22 13:23 GMT (UK)
did find him living with a family of Kings in 1939 a John King and Edith King, 

Could you give more details on this entry please
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: Susan Smith on Sunday 13 February 22 13:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie,  1939 Register William Smith b 08/01/1890  Residence Droxford, Hampshire, other residence William king and Elizabeth King.

This is Edith with John,  Farnham, Surrey. 1911

John King   34
Edith King   29
Arthur King   10
John King   8
William King   4
Robert King   2
Edith King   0

Sue
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 13 February 22 13:46 GMT (UK)
The 1884 baptism for Edith at Holy Trinity Chobham has parents as Syke & Rhoda.

In 1870 Silas & Rhoda were living at Egham Common when son James was baptised at Longcross, by 1872 they were at Longcross Lane when daughter Mary Ann was baptised.

If it is the same couple they were in Frimley in 1878 when daughter Emily was baptised at Chilworth

1881 census they were at Gipsy Tents in Chobham RG11/771 f68 p28.  I suspect that the Baker & Smith families on the same page were related.  Silla Smith & Roda, both age 30
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 13 February 22 13:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie,  1939 Register William Smith b 08/01/1890  Residence Droxford, Hampshire, other residence William king and Elizabeth King.

This is Edith with John,  Farnham, Surrey. 1911

John King   34
Edith King   29
Arthur King   10
John King   8
William King   4
Robert King   2
Edith King   0

Sue

Thank you
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: Susan Smith on Sunday 13 February 22 13:55 GMT (UK)
Rosie,

So if Edith was Silas and Rhoda (Sila and Roda) daughter must have been born later than 1881.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 13 February 22 14:03 GMT (UK)
I managed to find one birth registered  ;D.  I don't envy you searching Travelling Smiths

KING, ROBERT       mmn SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1909  March Quarter in HARTLEY WINTNEY  Volume 02C  Page 181

I think it is likely it is Silas and not Syke
 
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: Susan Smith on Sunday 13 February 22 14:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie,  thanks for that,  yes it is correct and that was the only one I found in GRO,  I think its a case of they just did not register others unfortunately,  think will give this a rest for moment but do  think people have picked up wrong Edith in there trees (Edith Sharpe) married to John King,  as said above William Smith was I believe Ediths brother and that would make sense and be connection of Hubby to the Kings.  Sue
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 13 February 22 15:18 GMT (UK)
Marriage, 5 Feb 1912, Woking St John
William Smith, 22, Labourer, father Silas Smith
+
Norah Churn, 19.

Two children registered in Guildford.
William James in Dec 1913
Died June 1915, age 1.

March 1915 Guildford 2a 163
Smith, Louisa
mother Churn

Deaths
March 1915 Guildford 2a 201
Smith, Louisa, age 0
Smith, Norah, age 22

Your William Smith married 31 Jan 1916, East Ham St. Bartholomew
He was a bachelor.
In the forces.
Father is George Smith.
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: Susan Smith on Sunday 13 February 22 15:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Jon,  yes have all that already,  George was we believe actually Silas, I have posted a few times re William,  we have now tracked him down and it appears he went by an alias of Brown and settled with a Partner Rose, in Bordon Hampshire,  they had a son called dennis b 1941,thank you replying it is appreciated.
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 13 February 22 15:52 GMT (UK)
Silas may be transcribed as Lilian in 1921
13 Temple Bar Road, Woking.
Schedule 38.
Also there is a Sophia Smith, born 1887, Chobham, Surrey (daughter?)
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: Susan Smith on Sunday 13 February 22 15:55 GMT (UK)
Hi John,  Yes thats correct, Transcribing a bit hit and miss,  alot of Travellers were at Temple Bar.

Sue
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 13 February 22 16:19 GMT (UK)
Hi
Glad you've found him.
Good luck with all your Smiths!
John
Title: Re: Edith Smith b 1884 believe Chobham, Surrey.
Post by: Susan Smith on Sunday 13 February 22 17:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jon,  Its been a very long haul,  1921 Census helped and power of Facebook.

Sue